Brain Of F'n J
Hank Scorpio
Not that cool enough to have one of these....wait.
We Discodians must stick apart.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 2, 2007 10:40:42 GMT -5
You're not alone Kash, I didn't love the HBK vs Cena match from Raw either. I didn't hate the match or anything, but I didn't think it was as great as a lot of people did. Just because the match was almost an hour, that didn't mean to me that it was good. It was just long. I know that typically a match that goes 25 or even 30 minutes is going to be good because it has sufficient build-up and psychology. The problem is that HBK and Cena took what should have been a 20 minute match, and they stretched it into almost 60. They stretched it out by basically just repeating things over and over again. When CM Punk and Joe went an hour in ROH, sure there were rest holds and stuff. But the difference maker is that they told a very good story in the ring, and there was a tremendous amount of psychology. Had that particular match been 20 minutes, it would have seemed abreviated. But with HBK and Cena, that match didn't have to be as long as it did. In my opinion, the fact that it seemed to drag on forever made it dull. I will not question that Cena tries very hard in the ring, and he has improved quite a bit over the years. But i just don't buy him yet as a guy who puts on 5-star hour long matches. I commend the effort of both men of course, but to me it just didn't happen. THANK YOU. That's one of the key sticking points (of which, as far as I'm concerned, the match has MANY) I've tried to make with friends about this match. It was 20 minutes of wrestling in a 60 minute slot. Going long is fine ... going long when you don't have enough to fill the slot? Bad. Jed Shaffer ~And 10 minutes of headlocks at the beginning is not filling the slot. That's just dumb.
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Post by verticalbase on May 2, 2007 14:04:46 GMT -5
By the way, the ONE guy who has made me care about him in any way shape or form lately is Edge. That's a guy who has stepped it up 1000%. I'm just here to say Edge rules!
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on May 2, 2007 14:19:49 GMT -5
I agree with you Kash. It's cool. I personally thought the Orton Vs. Edge match from this weeks Raw was not only better, it blew the Michaels/Cena match out of the water.
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Post by The Portable Stove on May 2, 2007 14:42:34 GMT -5
The match was okay.
In my opinion though, you're right about Cena. He's TRYING in the ring, but recently his mic work has been nothing but "YOU KNOW ME, YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME".
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 2, 2007 14:43:47 GMT -5
Boo, Boo, he has a dissenting opinion and he turned me into a newt ( I got better), Burn him!
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Post by theoriginalredcap on May 2, 2007 14:50:11 GMT -5
being there live with no breaks really added to it - everyone was expecting superman cena to get the pinfall or a run-in from edge (ie the usual run of the mill raw stuff) but it just kept going and the near falls had everyone on the edge of their seat. plus the finish made the crowd go nuts - i was jumping up and down like a little kid when the second s.c.m. hit.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 14:50:25 GMT -5
I feel the same way, Kash. Great match, great psychology...but I could not bring myself to care about these two.
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Post by sonofkwang on May 2, 2007 15:03:45 GMT -5
By the way...Edge sucks ass and should get his ass kicked and so should Khali for doing that crap that he did to Cena. Was garbage anyway. I'm just curious...Is the "crap" that he did to Cena that you are referring to what he did at the end of Raw?
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