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Post by @SamoaJoe on Jan 27, 2007 16:54:17 GMT -5
I dont see why everybody else raves about this guy, so will someone please persuade me to like him because i see him as a future ROH champ and I dont wanna dislike an ROH champ because they have huge title runs and the company revolves around them meaning i will loose interest in ROH!!!!!
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Post by MGH on Jan 27, 2007 16:54:58 GMT -5
Won't get any help from me. Never have been nor probably ever will be a fan. I hope Homicide finishes his push off in Manhattan.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 27, 2007 17:21:46 GMT -5
Don't worry, I hate him too.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Jan 27, 2007 17:25:15 GMT -5
Rave sucks.
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Post by NIXON on Jan 27, 2007 17:30:16 GMT -5
You might as well ask me to cure cancer.
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Post by @SamoaJoe on Jan 27, 2007 17:43:31 GMT -5
He does have one of the best entrances though
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Post by Jeff on Jan 27, 2007 17:47:09 GMT -5
Rave is great. He is a natural heel and is improving every day, his entrance them House of the Rising Sun is perfect and his new heel hook finisher is a great submission. Check out his feuds with AJ styles & CM Punk from 2005 to see his awesomeness in action.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 27, 2007 17:47:12 GMT -5
He does have one of the best entrances though his new one, his old one, or his older one?
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 27, 2007 18:17:14 GMT -5
Basically, he's not someone you're SUPPOSED to like...and that's what there is to like. He basically never did anything remotely cool in the ring, stole finishers, stalled a ton, etc...sort of like a new-school old-school heel.
These days he's supposedly using a more varied moveset and is putting on really good matches, but I have yet to see him since the Embassy breakup.
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Post by Jeff on Jan 27, 2007 18:25:33 GMT -5
Lately the man has just been on FIRE[/i]
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Post by Shy Guy on Jan 27, 2007 18:25:54 GMT -5
hes kinda cute.
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Post by Jeff on Jan 27, 2007 18:29:19 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by TripleMerc on Jan 27, 2007 19:00:11 GMT -5
I would have never predicted this to be TMiz's contribution.
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 27, 2007 19:06:29 GMT -5
I haven't seen him without Nana yet, and by all reports I've read of recent Rave matches, I believe that's the big problem - Rave by HIMSELF can't draw heel heat, but with Nana by his side, it's as simple as Nana just yelling out "JIMMY RAAAVE!" and the crowd boos. Which is why I'm hoping for a Nana return on 2/16 to make the title match more interesting.
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 28, 2007 1:38:52 GMT -5
Ok, I haven't seen much 2006 ROH yet because 2002-2003 ROH is so much cheaper...why did Prince Nana leave? I'm looking for both the kayfabe and legit reasons. Any help?
Oh and I seriously find Jimmy Rave an absolutely great heel. He is what Randy Orton needs to be to be the WWE Champion. A completely despicable heel. His look, his mannerism...it's almost as if he doesn't fit into ROH because of the "this is awesome"/"R O H" nature.
I mean, The Briscoes could suffocate babies in grocery bags and I'd still mark out for them. I don't know why; I just would. Jimmy Rave could save orphans from a fire and give them all good homes, and I'd still boo him.
Jimmy Rave is hated for having been born. How many guys can claim that in wrestling today? How many can you remember to pull it off so well?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 28, 2007 1:45:43 GMT -5
I love what little I've seen of him, although I'll admit that Prince Nana and Daizee Haze probably added a lot to that equation.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 28, 2007 2:29:47 GMT -5
*ahem*
Chris. Hero.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 28, 2007 2:31:06 GMT -5
I think you mean HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 28, 2007 2:37:26 GMT -5
In all the major companies, the only guys I see that play heel better than Rave right now are Christian and, while he was still wrestling, maybe JBL.
Rave is just the perfect heel, and lately he's proven his versatility. Back in the Embassy, he was the "slow the match down, use every underhanded tactic in the book, Ric Flair-style" sneaky, arrogant heel, and everything about his act, his mannerisms, facial expressions, moveset, etc., were perfect for it.
Today, post-Nana, he's changed. For one, don't believe he can't draw heel heat on his own; the crowd was all over him tonight in Edison. Secondly, he's added moves to his arsenal, because he's not the same kind of heel any more. He's now a guy who's angry at being disrespected (post toilet paper days) all the time, and now seeks to beat respect into people. However, he almost has an eerie vibe about him now; he kind of looks like a guy who, despite not being very large, just strikes you as dangerous, the kind of guy who, if you so much as cross him, will just flat-out cave your skull in with a shovel, and grin about it later.
Regardless, the guy still draws great heat, and puts on great, albeit different, matches. I'd LOVE a Rave World Title run.
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Post by @SamoaJoe on Jan 28, 2007 7:24:53 GMT -5
He does have one of the best entrances though his new one, his old one, or his older one? ermmmm im just talking about the toilet role part.....
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