JMA
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:17:36 GMT -5
I disagree. For one thing, there's no real way to tell if something sucks or not. Yeah, there is. I say it sucks. Therefore, it sucks. You should no this by now. I say it DOESN'T suck, though. Checkmate.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 27, 2007 1:17:48 GMT -5
Dude, we'll be best friends forever and ever, but just don't say Pearl Jam sucks again. I can't take the lies. Sorry, I'm just not a fan of the Jam. Of Pearl. Fair enough, I suppose. I mean, I don't get the big deal about certain bands, so it's a push.
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:24:46 GMT -5
Here's a question: Does anyone like anything that sucks? It seems like everyone likes things they consider to be objectively good. But I doubt that everything an individual likes is objectively good (if such a universal standard exists at all). Aren't all our opinions based on our personal experiences, that others cannot ever fully know? Therefore, why should we even care about the opinions of others? And isn't the real reason people even share opinions is because they want other people to accept them as true? It almost seems virus-like. Granted, I sometimes do the same thing myself.
But enough of this serious talk. I'm going to stop thinking now and just assume that I know what's best. GRUNGE RULES, EMO SUCKS~!
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 27, 2007 1:25:38 GMT -5
Dood, I'm sorry but I have to totally disagree with you, DSR. Ten years from now, people are still going to remember Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Sound Garden, etc. ...I dunno if the same can be said for Falloutboy, AFI or Thursday. ..On topic..Raven really isn't grunge anymore. Grunge is dead. He's more gothic than anything..or..was with the skirts and braids..now he's this Clockwork Orange/Eyes Wide Shut/Plague Doctor..thing-a-ma-jiggy. Popularity and talent are two different things. People will probably remember that Britney Spears was a singer at one point, but that doesn't mean she's a great musician. Also, I realize Falloutboy, AFI, and Thursday are not exactly the newest bands in the world. But... a.) Thursday isn't emo. Their new music isn't about relationships or whatever, it's about politics. b.) Ya can't predict the future. If you were around when The Beatles first broke out, wearing suits and singing I Wanna Hold Your Hand (a catchy song, but not particularly relevant to anything), you probably woulda called them a teeny-bopper flash in the pan. c.) The hit songs of the 80s were generally considered crappy in the 90s, but nowadays they are fairly respected, even if it is ironically. People remember and talk about just about everything.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 27, 2007 1:26:11 GMT -5
Here's a question: Does anyone like anything that sucks? It seems like everyone likes things they consider to be objectively good. But I doubt that everything an individual likes is objectively good (if such a universal standard exists at all). Aren't all our opinions based on our personal experiences, that others cannot ever fully know? Therefore, why should we even care about the opinions of others? And isn't the real reason people even share opinions is because they want other people to accept them as true? It almost seems virus-like. Granted, I sometimes do the same thing myself. But enough of this serious talk. I'm going to stop thinking now and just assume that I know what's best. GRUNGE RULES, EMO SUCKS~! That's actually a really valid point. Kudos.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 27, 2007 1:26:13 GMT -5
Yeah, there is. I say it sucks. Therefore, it sucks. You should no this by now. I say it DOESN'T suck, though. Checkmate. I'm the fount of knowledge on all things around here. Not you.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 27, 2007 1:28:07 GMT -5
I say it DOESN'T suck, though. Checkmate. I'm the fount of knowledge on all things around here. Not you. It's 'font', you added a 'u'.
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:28:56 GMT -5
I say it DOESN'T suck, though. Checkmate. I'm the fount of knowledge on all things around here. Not you. Yeah, well, I pissed in that fountain. I still dig baby-eating Chris Hero, though. Swift approves.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 27, 2007 1:30:18 GMT -5
I'm the fount of knowledge on all things around here. Not you. It's 'font', you added a 'u'. Font? I am not a style of lettering, sir! PS I'm 1/8th British. I like adding 'u' to words. For instance, bluue is my favourite colour.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 27, 2007 1:31:10 GMT -5
I'm the fount of knowledge on all things around here. Not you. Yeah, well, I pissed in that fountain. I still dig baby-eating Chris Hero, though. Swift approves. I'm a metaphorical fountain. Not a literal fountain. And if you pissed on me...you'd never see the light of day again.
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:35:17 GMT -5
Yeah, well, I pissed in that fountain. I still dig baby-eating Chris Hero, though. Swift approves. I'm a metaphorical fountain. Not a literal fountain. And if you pissed on me...you'd never see the light of day again. Metaphorical piss.
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:37:44 GMT -5
Here's a question: Does anyone like anything that sucks? It seems like everyone likes things they consider to be objectively good. But I doubt that everything an individual likes is objectively good (if such a universal standard exists at all). Aren't all our opinions based on our personal experiences, that others cannot ever fully know? Therefore, why should we even care about the opinions of others? And isn't the real reason people even share opinions is because they want other people to accept them as true? It almost seems virus-like. Granted, I sometimes do the same thing myself. But enough of this serious talk. I'm going to stop thinking now and just assume that I know what's best. GRUNGE RULES, EMO SUCKS~! That's actually a really valid point. Kudos. Thanks. I enjoy overthinking trivial stuff.
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Post by wrath on Jan 27, 2007 1:42:26 GMT -5
Dood, I'm sorry but I have to totally disagree with you, DSR. Ten years from now, people are still going to remember Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Sound Garden, etc. ...I dunno if the same can be said for Falloutboy, AFI or Thursday. ..On topic..Raven really isn't grunge anymore. Grunge is dead. He's more gothic than anything..or..was with the skirts and braids..now he's this Clockwork Orange/Eyes Wide Shut/Plague Doctor..thing-a-ma-jiggy. Popularity and talent are two different things. People will probably remember that Britney Spears was a singer at one point, but that doesn't mean she's a great musician. Eh, I'm sorry but I don't see any of these emo bands oozing with musical talent. We'll just have to agree to disagree. ..Or have a knife fight. Whatever boats your float.
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Post by JMA on Jan 27, 2007 1:46:31 GMT -5
Personally, I've always found emo bands to be whiny for the sake of being whiny. And there's such a melodramatic quality to the whole genre.
Of course, that's only my opinion.
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 27, 2007 1:52:28 GMT -5
no, because Raven doesn't suck
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Post by Shark Jumpin' on Jan 27, 2007 2:05:04 GMT -5
He certainly don't look emo.
Far as I can see, emo is about rebelling against masculinity with their image... the whole mascara thing and the tight pants and so on. Kinda like some 80s metal, but not as many people are into it.
To me, Raven is Raven. He was grunge, now he's just plain awesome.
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Post by nostradumbass on Jan 27, 2007 2:21:07 GMT -5
No. He raps.
INTELLECTUAL VIETNAM
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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 27, 2007 9:51:48 GMT -5
Who ever said that Simon and Garfunkel were emo needs kicked in the crotch. They were folk singers never besmirch them again.
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