Stuff You Don't Get

[NIXON]

colatron said:

For me, there are 2 that stick out.

1. Super Dragon: To me, the guy is a lop, worthless in every way, but he is worshiped by many.

2. Abyss: I can't stand this guy. He seems just like all the so called hosses that are so often berated on theses forums, but he is beloved for reasons that are beyond my comprehension.

Can't agree with this - Super Dragon carries himself with the mystery of the luchadores which intrigues me and makes me wanna watch, but works stiff as hell which is always good. Plus he came up with the kerb stomp, and Simon Dean could never make it look as sick.

Abyss is pretty talented for a big guy - certainly more interesting to watch as a character than early Kane or Undertaker. For a guy who can't speak, we all know what his character is about and his matches are always entertaining IMO. Granted, the over-use of thumbtacks is annoying, but I guess that's become his gimmick now so I'll let it slide.

I'll agree with Matt Sydal - he has great moves but there's just something about his whiny frat boy look and attitude that gets under my skin.

I'd also have to go with Kevin Steen - my mate Dougie adores him but I just don't get it.

I've also never got Raven. I've never thought he could talk and he sure as hell can't work.

Aside from that, the main thing I'll never get is just how could a certain major promotion could become so bad

See, everyone ALWAYS says this about Abyss. Only one problem. He isn't a big guy! He is 6'4" or 6'5" at best. If he was as big as he is listed, i would tend to agree with you, though I would still hate the character, as it looks like some crappy heel Lawler would've come up with to put himself over in USWA.

[Next Level was WRONG]

The * rating system.

- First of all, they tell you absolutely nothing about a match, yet people use them as a credible and definitive source for argument. "Oh, that was *** at best" Really? And here I was thinking the ratings were subjective! Also, can someone please, PLEASE tell me the difference between a 1/4* and a 1/2*?

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

I'm usually very open about all things.

But I will never understand the appeal in things like CZW's Cage of Death.

All I see is a bunch of guys killing themselves for a brief 'holy shit' chant.

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

Why anyone likes anything about the following people:

Randy Orton
Batista
Rey Misterio
John Cena
Stacy Keibler
Kelly Kelly
Monty Brown Cor Von Chicken con Queso
Mike Knox
Lashley
Striker
Jeff Jarrett

[Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture]

godz said:

Why anyone likes anything about the following people:

Cor Von Chicken con Queso

Why, mexican food does sound like a good idea right now.

I'm not digging the whole Eric Young/don't fire me thing.

It's retarded.

[MGH]

Eric Young is actually another good one for me. He points up and acts like a tard. It was amusing for the first month or so, but ..... it's never gone anywhere interesting. Yet some people think he's the highlight of iMPACT some weeks.

And hell, I'll go ahead and say this too. For the life of me I can't understand how people still find Raw to be good entertaining wrestling television.

[Michael Coello]

Johnny Nitro- He's dull. Dull,dull,dull. I don't even wanna see him get his ass kicked.
Jim Cornette-Never got the appeal.
The Tramp Stamp Hate- So Hoyt got a tattoo on the small of his back. Big deal.
The focus on time for matches- If something entertains, does it matter if it goes 5 minutes or 15 minutes? It's when it's dull is when the time stands still.
Tuning in on a show you hate- Seriously, WHY DO YOU DO THIS?! I don't give a damn if it is wrestling, if I hate it so much, then I'm finding something else to do and avoid bitching about it every week.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

sinister1 said:

The Tramp Stamp Hate- So Hoyt got a tattoo on the small of his back. Big deal.

I don't hate it - hell, it's his body, let him do what he wants - but I just think it's silly. In a business where the more you look like a badass the harder you'll (probably) be pushed, getting a tattoo that screams "Picture me bending over! Now use it as a target!!" somehow doesn't seem to work. Call me crazy.....

Of course, I know I know .... it's not always about your "look." But as far as I could tell, Hoyt's gimmick isn't that of "closet case big dude," it's "big dude who apparently can break-dance."

It would be like if Tomko started painting his nails, but nothing else. Tramp stamps are more often than not equated with women - young women between 18 and 30, to narrow it down - as is nail polish. (although many women over 30 wear it as well, but I digress.) Basically ... take a bad-ass looking guy, give him one even pseudo-feminine characteristic, and watch his credibility go bye-bye.

In my opinion, of course, Your mileage may vary.

[HMARK Center]

CM Punk (Never done anything to impress me, and i've watched his boring matches with Samoa Joe)

You, sir, are a discredit to this company. GET OUT OF MY OFFICE!

I have to come to Matt Sydal's defense here; I think the dude's more well-rounded than AJ was at that stage of his career, and he plays babyface-in-peril very well. Like many others these days, he's in his "learning to emote properly" phase of training, so I try not to pass judgment on anyone who's young and still obviously working on aspects of his game.

[MetalGearDizzle]

Chris Hero, sloppy, boring, idiotic wrestler.

[Feargus McReddit]

As Estrada is, I'm very leniant on alot of stuff. Since, well, this is Pro Wrestling. Anything odd can happen.

I don't understand most of the Divas in the WWE. To be quite blunt, most of them don't even look that attractive and probably know or have seen about 50 other girls more attractive than most of them. This is coming from, well, a Kristal and Mickie Admierer. Proabably two of the most real (minus Mickie's extra breast put ons) looking women in the company.

[W?Y]

godz said:

Striker

Now, I must defend Striker for myself. First of all, outside of his teacher gimmick, Matt Striker is hilarious. And in his gimmick, I think he plays it up the best that he can, and I truly appreciate him for trying so hard. I will say that he needs something other than perrenial baby-face opponents to get himself over as a heel, but I think his size prevents him from being taken seriously (surprise!).

[@SamoaJoe]

Ace Steel

Kane

Delirios

[Chris Decker-The Wild Rover]

cena hate

yes he's been pushed like crazy, yes the girls love him, yes his firemans carry slam is a crappy finisher. but he's got a ton of charisma and has had some of the best matches this year in WWE.

yes i would like to have other champions, but for now he's ok.

but i do actually don't get batista.

[Feargus McReddit]

rootbeerworldorder said:

godz said:

Striker

Now, I must defend Striker for myself. First of all, outside of his teacher gimmick, Matt Striker is hilarious. And in his gimmick, I think he plays it up the best that he can, and I truly appreciate him for trying so hard. I will say that he needs something other than perrenial baby-face opponents to get himself over as a heel, but I think his size prevents him from being taken seriously (surprise!).

Any man who can do awesome impressions of Ultimate Warrior, Stone Cold, The Rock, Vince McMahon etc, is ok in my book.

[NIXON]

I'd like to add Necro Butcher to my list. I didn't realize how little I cared for the guy until I actually dozed off during his BOLA match. Bored to tears by the man.

[carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army)]

Melina. She has literally the ugliest hair I have ever seen, she stands out from the other divas in absolutely zero ways except for the split-entrance and the fact that she yells, and her wrestling is just depresing to watch.

Kurt Angle any time in the past three years or so. GOD I am so not interested by him anymore. He always wins, and yet he never gains anything! I get it, you're intense, now DO SOMETHING.

Also, Ric Flair. Not just recently, I mean ever. He was a fantastic wrestler, of course... I've seen all the classics. I just don't understand how he became the hugest deal ever. Same deal with Bret Hart, actually... I can understand admiring him and thinking he's a great wrestler (and I do), but I kind of can't understand caring about him enough to consider him like number one of all time.

[invaderdave]

Super Dragon. I'm sorry, I don't particularly care for him.

Adam Pearce. Nice old school style, but I don't care for him very much.

Justice Pain. I know, no one was really singing his praises, but I don't like Justice Pain.

[Johnny Q Public]

In no particular order:
How Ms. Brooks has the power to fire Eric Young
Why TNA ruined the build-up of Robert Roode
Vince McMahon
WWECW
Lance Hoyt dancing?
Ron Killings' dancing for that matter
Seratonin
Repeats of matches on consecutive shows/PPV

Enough for me for now.

[Colatron]

p93 said:

colatron said:

Abyss is pretty talented for a big guy - certainly more interesting to watch as a character than early Kane or Undertaker.
I'll agree with Matt Sydal - he has great moves but there's just something about his whiny frat boy look and attitude that gets under my skin.



I've also never got Raven. I've never thought he could talk and he sure as hell can't work.

Abyss more interesting then prime Kane/Taker AND Raven can't talk? I'll meet you outside sir.

I honestly don't like Joe that much, his good and i wouldn't change the channel when his on or anything, but he doesn't entertainment enough to say he's the best wrestler in the world (or even north america) he also doesn't look like a badass at all to me (maybe that one time after the headbut with angle, but he did have blood dripping down his face ).

I've met Raven and he couldn't even talk then! Ok - I'll concede he had a cool kinda cult leader vibe about him (David Koresh style I believe Heyman based him on?) but I just find him dull. His promos the last 3 years or so have done nothing to credit him IMO.

Joe not a badass? Sir - I'll direct you to Joe vs. Kobashi - when you b*tchslap the world's greatest wrestler for kicking your thigh in the first few seconds of a highly anticipated match, then you are a bad ass.

And someone else was saying Chris Hero somewhere in this thread - sorry but again I gotta disagree - the guy is a fantastic techincal wrestler and his knack of getting heat just by being in a room is awesome. Plus I love the simplicity of a move like the crevat