hollywood
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Post by hollywood on Jan 16, 2007 18:38:04 GMT -5
TNA screwing up isn't really news at this point, TNA not screwing up would be news. Sad, but true.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 16, 2007 18:43:49 GMT -5
TNA screwing up isn't really news at this point, TNA not screwing up would be news. Sad, but true. And yet, it seems the higher ups within the company don't want to change that direction. But then again, the word 'direction' and TNA shouldn't be in the same thought together, unless it's for like a dead-end or something.
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Post by ICBM on Jan 16, 2007 20:37:33 GMT -5
Well damn. Screw job finishes too many times are the mark of R. I knew he would screw this up somehow. Damn you Russo!!!!!
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 16, 2007 20:38:55 GMT -5
TNA screwing up isn't really news at this point, TNA not screwing up would be news. Sad, but true. hard but fair. "WE'RE COMING AFTER YOU! YOU SMELL LIKE DO DO"
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 16, 2007 20:59:38 GMT -5
TNA=Hypocrites
VKM belittles Vince for not having wrestling on Monday night during a segment where they don't wrestle and put down a woman along with the fact that they have wrestled like twice in the past few months. Combine that with that fact that Tna's weekly shows have no wrestling anymore, just progress storylines and how bad wrestling wise the ppv was....
I actually agree with this writer.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 16, 2007 21:05:17 GMT -5
I found this point hilarious:
"I could make a case for the way the X-Division Title seems to change hands on a whim these days, undoing all the work that Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels and AJ Styles put into making it an important part of the company."
Yep, they bascially had 30 matches with each other, Samoa Joe winning each time (or losing without being pinned), killing the division. TNA HAS gotten better, TNA IS improving. You can provide your high brow smarky criticisms all you want but on the bottom line they are going up, the problem is that people want an alternative to not have it's own issues, hell they want an alternative.
TNA has to realize that they arn't providing a true alternative. All they have are other guys on another show with more interesting storylines. Other than that the matches end in DQ or screwjob all of the time and they fit as much as possible into every show. I'm not expecting ROH on TV because ROH would bomb if it left it's audience, TNA has to go for the casual viewer. However they need to lay off screwjob and DQ endings and keep belts on people longer. Other than that I love the storylines, I love the character development, and TNA is only getting better.
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 16, 2007 21:08:30 GMT -5
I have to agree. TNA marks will dismiss this, but it's the truth.
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Post by MGH on Jan 16, 2007 22:06:36 GMT -5
Before Russo showed up, I was constantly making the statement that I would watch 1 hour of TNA programming a week over WWE's 5 hours if I had to choose. Funny how stuff changes fast. Smackdown started getting really damn good, and while Russo's first couple of months or so were fine, it's started going exactly like all the critics thought it would. I usually love TNA's PPVs, but the one on Sunday was a bomb of epic proportions. I went from being ready to kill to see Joe vs Angle to wishing this feud was over with. Meh, I don't know. TNA isn't as enjoyable as it was before to me anymore. Like they just announced Angle vs Styles. I should be thrilled. Instead I'm figuring out that it'll go 6 minutes, have a commercial in the middle of it, and end in a clusterf***. Oh well.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 16, 2007 23:22:17 GMT -5
Nowadays, I'm not as amped for TNA as I once was. I still watch out of habit, but for some matches I could care less for.
The Angle/Joe series was rushed way too soon, the 3rd match should've took place at least in March to build up some tension. Plus the tag match on Impact with Joe/AJ vs. Rhino/Angle would've been on this PPV instead,IMO, but that's just me I guess.
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 16, 2007 23:28:39 GMT -5
Before TNA was barely gaining my interest. Now, not so much.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 16, 2007 23:39:56 GMT -5
I used to try to watch TNA every week. But since Rhyno's pyromanic episode, I've slowly started to turn away from TNA.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 17, 2007 0:01:37 GMT -5
I found this point hilarious: "I could make a case for the way the X-Division Title seems to change hands on a whim these days, undoing all the work that Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels and AJ Styles put into making it an important part of the company." Yep, they bascially had 30 matches with each other, Samoa Joe winning each time (or losing without being pinned), killing the division. TNA HAS gotten better, TNA IS improving. You can provide your high brow smarky criticisms all you want but on the bottom line they are going up, the problem is that people want an alternative to not have it's own issues, hell they want an alternative. TNA has to realize that they arn't providing a true alternative. All they have are other guys on another show with more interesting storylines. Other than that the matches end in DQ or screwjob all of the time and they fit as much as possible into every show. I'm not expecting ROH on TV because ROH would bomb if it left it's audience, TNA has to go for the casual viewer. However they need to lay off screwjob and DQ endings and keep belts on people longer. Other than that I love the storylines, I love the character development, and TNA is only getting better. I agree. People seem to be romanticizing TNA from the past months before Russo returned, and I can't figure out why for the life of me. The X-Division was all but dead and buried by the time he came in, and, at the VERY least, it has a sliver of life these days, and some interesting performers (Daniels, Lynn, Sabin) in the storyline gunning for the title. People are complaining about how Samoa Joe is being used, and yet he's main evented the past three PPV's while, during D'Amore's last days booking, he was in a pointless Monster's Ball match at Bound For Glory, for what amounted to basically no reason. But I also agree that TNA has plenty of it's own flaws, and doesn't do enough to distinguish itself from WWE during it's weekly show. They want the casuals? Fine. But don't fall into the trap of copying WWE; WWE has a built-in audience of people who, for some God-forsaken reason, will NEVER stop watching. WWE can be awful, but people will flock back every week. TNA does NOT have that. To me, TNA presents a good show, but a flawed one in many ways. It's good enough to get me to tune in for an hour, and to plop down $30 now and then for a PPV, and that's not bad, in my estimation. That said, it's plenty flawed (i.e. overuse of interference in big matches (that is SO 1998), etc.), and there are times when I'm left scratching my head at some decisions, but I don't let that drive me crazy. I'm still mostly entertained, and, for an hour show, it doesn't have to blow me away or anything. Like it or not, TNA's still young as a promotion and, as a primetime promotion, it's a baby. Like the article said, it's not like there isn't still time for it to really run with the ball, if it gets all it's stuff together. That said, I don't want another WCW/current WWE, products that, to me, define(d) "wasted potential".
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