Why an iron man match?

[Joekishi]

I would have just gone with an I QUit match to prove who really is the best.

Ultimate Submission?

But why the 30 minute Iron Man?

THis fued calls for blood and weapons and tables.

not a 30 minute Iron Man

[mysterydriver]

I bring FOUR answers!

My guess: To allow both to tap to moves before one gets a last second pin.

Jerk Answer with no Proof: Because they want to make sure the match is 30 minutes because Angle might try and end any other match earlier. Angle will die in the ring.

Rabid TNA Fan: So they can get the first six star match!

Rabid WWE Fan: Because they need a former WWE guy to carry a PPV...again!

[G✇JI☈A]

I think TNA should delay this match for about two months so Joe has more time to recover from his recent surgery.

[Deleted]

Even a best of 3 falls match would have been better IMO. This is like during the Michaels/Angle feud where they already had 2 30 minute(close enough) matches, so it's like...how is a 30 minute ironman match gonna be that much different. I'd have made it at least an hour, or like you said make it something more dangerous.

[Chuckie Finster]

So they can end in a tie and have reason for another match. Simple as that.

[wwerules60]

I think they should have done six sides of steel, but this is still good.

[EZ: Broken Bae]

tdog231 said:

So they can end in a tie and have reason for another match. Simple as that.

Gah.

You're right.

[American Nightmare]

i think its cuz they need to guarentee time. Their first match got the best ppv numbers TNA has ever seen. The second one had much less. THe major complaint of these matches has been the short time. NOW they are guarenteeing the fans 30 minutes.

[vinniemac]

In WWE, who had the most iron-man matches? I think it's HBK, second being Kurt Angle, am I correct? Angle had the solid Brock Lesnar iron man match on SMACKDOWN! in 2003, and his two goes with HBK were phenomenally good for WWE, where in-ring work is a distant second to time wasting crap.

Samoa Joe has the indy cred for being able to broadway a match. His hour-plus bouts with CM Punk were highly regarded.

Both men can go. Both men are a top draw in TNA. TNA f'd up and gave them short matches on their first ppv feuds. TNA hasn't had an iron man match that I can remember. Nearly 5 years and it's the one match they haven't had that often. For them, it's something different. You have two guys that can draw and can go for a long time, so why not offer up something different (that has a chance to be a nawesome main event)?

Save the 6 sides of steel for LOCKDOWN. Too many steel cage matches ruins the allure. Given how they had one in November with Christian and Rhino, to do one every month cheapens the gimmick.

Another plus for the ironman match: it's also something that they can't afford to do on the weekly program since it'd eat up too much time (and iMPACT! only runs 42 minutes after commercials). It lends itself to a PPV, and gives off the heir of something special (on paper).

It makes so much sense to book an ironman match that it's disappointing to see people who don't get it.

This should build into an inevitable, old-school, steel cage match blow off between Joe and Angle. With Vince Russo booking, I suspect they might fumble the ball on that. I can still hope, though.

Joe & Angle could easily be booked into a year-long draw... Unless Vince "ADD baby" Russo is booking...

I look forward to this match. It guarantees some solid ring work from two of the best in the business. Less crap and more action. I don't watch TNA for WWE-lite crap.

Ironman matches > WWE vignettes.

Angle has yet to have a disappointing ironman match.

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

vinniemac said:

TNA hasn't had an iron man match that I can remember. Nearly 5 years and it's the one match they haven't had that often.

AJ and Daniels just had two 30-minute Iron Mans last year...the first of which was on most lists for one of TNA's best that year.

[H-Fist]

Plus, the Iron Man works in conjunction with Joe coming off an injury. Angle wins 1-0 or 2-1 after Joe's leg gives out at 22 minutes, and he struggles for 7 minutes on one leg, but he can't take it and taps/succumbs to a quick pin.

Then on Impact, Angle talks about how he took 2 of 3 from Joe, he's the best, deserves the belt, yadda yadda. No answer from Joe - he isn't "there" for "that week's" Impact.

The next Impact, Joe shows up on crutches, says that Angle DID beat him. But it was a weakened Joe, a Joe who rushed back too quick out of pride. So Angle's victory was hollow. Come hell or high water, Joe will gain his revenge. And even the score. Angle snaps, demands a match that night, and gets to squash a low-carder.

In week three, Joe gets booked into a squash, just like Angle got the previous week. But he's still not 100%. He doesn't necessarily lose, but the leg goes out again and the ref throws up the dreaded injury "X" to the back. Joe disappears from TNA TV for a few weeks to heal. He cuts an in-ring promo at the next PPV, but is otherwise absent. He is able to focus on ROH's 5th Anniverary festival and get down to a bare-bones schedule.

In week 4, Angle demands a title shot having beaten Joe. He is then booked into a #1 contender's match on Impact and ends up getting himself disqualified for not breaking the Ankle Lock on a rope break.

PPV - Angle does something. Time goes by. Joe returns. Joe wins (2 to 2). Fifth match is a cage match.

[HMARK Center]

Yeah, the first AJ/Daniels Iron Man was definitely one of my top 5 favorite TNA matches of 2005.

I agree that a 2 out of 3 falls match works better here, but if the idea ends up being "let it end in a draw", then it gives new life to the feud, as you could have Cornette telling them "that's it, you got your chance at a rubber match, neither of you won, tough luck, no more matches for awhile". Then, naturally, you begin a build towards a new feud between the two while also focusing on boths' march towards the World Title.

Somewhere down the line, the finish has to be a Steel Cage match, preferably for the title.

[JMA]

I love the idea of a tie in this match. And unlike most ties, the fans won't piss and moan about the ending (at least not as much as usual).

[thiazzi]

Um.. It's going to be a tie. That was the first thing that jumped into my mind as soon as they announced ironman match. This sucks. I want to see them fight other people.

There better not be any lame falls here, either. No bodyslam f***ing pins, please.

[Dynamic Dude Johnny]

I think it will end in a tie as well. where do you go from there is the next question. I would

If Joe needs time off have him take it. When he comes back have him demand the #1 contender position. He is denied but put in a tourney for the position.

Angle is also in the tourney but somehow is knocked out in the semi fnal round. This drives angle crazy.

Joe beats whoever the other wrestler is in the finals of the tourney and goes on to beat the world champ.

Angle goes on to become #1 contneder for joes world title and the feud goes on for the world belt.

[George Harrison]

I couldnt see them feuded over the world title, I think that takes a lot of the allure away from it. I think its best just leaving it at who's the best & who's the toughest. Iron Man match is decent, it gives the fans what they want. If it was any other match, after the others being short, it'd go on for half an hour at least anyway. Both wrestlers are capable of performing for that long, so why deny it?

[KingPopper]

it's either gonna end in a tie or the fued is gonna go to a best of 5 series. Either way it's not gonna end here.

[Joekishi]

I see the finish being either Angle has Joe trapped in the Ankle Lock and Joe hold's on till the End

Or Joe has Angle trapped in the Kokiina Clutch then Angle passes out AFTER the clock.

[vinniemac]

hardcorehick said:

vinniemac said:

TNA hasn't had an iron man match that I can remember. Nearly 5 years and it's the one match they haven't had that often.

AJ and Daniels just had two 30-minute Iron Mans last year...the first of which was on most lists for one of TNA's best that year.

Now that you mention it. I vaguely remember one. I don't remember a second running 30 minutes.

[Shy Guy]

who cares of the outcome. we're guranteed 30mins of samoa joe and kurt angle.

a year ago, we thought this match would never come. now it's their third.