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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 4, 2007 15:47:23 GMT -5
Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
TNA has told Konnan that they will not pay for his kidney transplant surgery which is going run him around $100,000 in the U.S. TNA has offered to loan him the money to have it done but he must pay it back. Konnan can get the surgery done in Mexico for much cheaper at around $35,000. The Roldan family who now runs AAA, has told Konnan that they plan on running several benefit shows to help him pay for the surgery. Konnan is the head booker for AAA.
Regarding the dropping of TNA paying for hotels, this only pertains to the talent. Everyone else from the announcers to bookers to production staff will still get their hotels paid for. The shuttle from the airport to the hotel rooms cost $24 while the hotel rooms at the Doubletree cost $69. However, the talents who's rooms are not being paid for are free to stay anywhere they wish.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 4, 2007 16:00:58 GMT -5
so let me get this straight
They'll pay 1 million dollars to charity in an effort to spite Vince McMahon (don't know how, but that's their logic and not mine), but they won't pay 1/10 that (or even less) to help pay for the surgery of one of their employees, who is currently involved as one of the cornerstones of their best stables.
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Post by Bhester on Jan 4, 2007 16:11:01 GMT -5
This s*** is making WCW seem smart.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 4, 2007 16:42:59 GMT -5
It would be stupid for them to pay for Konnan's surgery. It opens up the flood gates to paying for more surgeries for more and more people that aren't in-ring related injuries. While Konnan's might be caused from years of in-ring action, the damage didn't occur in TNA.
Them offering to lend him the money however is still a great thing to do, and hats off to AAA for the fundraisers.
They should use this as part of the angle though... "TNA will pay for Christian Cage's and Sting's hotels... but not the mexicans... hell, I have to have a kidney transplant but my employer won't pay it.. you wanna talk about discrimination in America?! TNA is discrimination!!!" TNA ignores things like this that the smarks read about and know.. when they could use them as huge parts of angles.
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Post by nisi on Jan 4, 2007 22:39:44 GMT -5
It would be stupid for them to pay for Konnan's surgery. It opens up the flood gates to paying for more surgeries for more and more people that aren't in-ring related injuries. While Konnan's might be caused from years of in-ring action, the damage didn't occur in TNA. But what does that have to do with the announcement many months ago that TNA was giving wrestlers actual health insurance and that's why it behooved guys to sign in Orlando even though the money was less than WWE and even indies? This was a big PR announcement that made many people look kindly on TNA, and it seems to have gone exactly nowhere. Pisses me off. |
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 4, 2007 22:43:41 GMT -5
And people say WWE doesn't care about their workers.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 4, 2007 22:44:44 GMT -5
It would be stupid for them to pay for Konnan's surgery. It opens up the flood gates to paying for more surgeries for more and more people that aren't in-ring related injuries. While Konnan's might be caused from years of in-ring action, the damage didn't occur in TNA. But what does that have to do with the announcement many months ago that TNA was giving wrestlers actual health insurance and that's why it behooved guys to sign in Orlando even though the money was less than WWE and even indies? This was a big PR announcement that made many people look kindly on TNA, and it seems to have gone exactly nowhere. Pisses me off. Wasn't that just to do a blood test just to start one? I don't think they have anything solid. I believe Dixie even said they don't have something like wellness when there was the question of Angle joining TNA not at 100%. |
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Post by The Line on Jan 4, 2007 22:45:54 GMT -5
If Konnan dies because he can't get surgery, I blame TNA
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2007 22:53:52 GMT -5
If Konnan dies because he can't get surgery, I blame TNA How can you blame the company he works for? They cannot under their right mind give insurance to workers who work elsewhere and take the risk of being injured. If that was the case they would pay for Homicide's injury, and Sonjay's as well...They provide a forum for the worker to make money and in that since thats all that is to really be expected. Even offering to loan Konnan the money knowing that if complications arise and he dies on the table, that to me shows class from TNA. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 4, 2007 22:57:05 GMT -5
It says they weren't gonna give him the money flat out, but would loan it to him. Not like they don't give a damn, but they can't give Konnan the money flat out and want it back. And to the people who talk about the VKM challenge, like no one in wrestling has ever talked BS before.......
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 4, 2007 23:06:54 GMT -5
It says they weren't gonna give him the money flat out, but would loan it to him. Not like they don't give a damn, but they can't give Konnan the money flat out and want it back. And to the people who talk about the VKM challenge, like no one in wrestling has ever talked BS before....... Hey, the WON news from...oh last week said that TNA kept saying they had the money put aside, so I'm calling their bluff that's all. EDIT: and I do consider them offering to loan the money a good gesture too. |
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Post by nisi on Jan 4, 2007 23:12:14 GMT -5
Wasn't that just to do a blood test just to start one? I don't think they have anything solid. I believe Dixie even said they don't have something like wellness when there was the question of Angle joining TNA not at 100%. Yeah, but why haven't they started it? This was a big deal and it seems to have gone nowhere. They cannot under their right mind give insurance to workers who work elsewhere and take the risk of being injured. If that was the case they would pay for Homicide's injury, and Sonjay's as well...They provide a forum for the worker to make money and in that since thats all that is to really be expected. Even offering to loan Konnan the money knowing that if complications arise and he dies on the table, that to me shows class from TNA. This is true NOW, but I thought the whole point of TNA owning wrestlers' names and controlling their indy bookings was to control for this risk. It just seems like TNA wants to have its cake and eat it too. |
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Post by American Nightmare on Jan 4, 2007 23:13:40 GMT -5
i think they should pay for wrestlers hotels. It makes sense to me. Its only 3 times a month.
I heard they were making money, why are they cutting costs?
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 4, 2007 23:15:32 GMT -5
The thing that gets me is that they are only going to stop paying for the actual talent. The very people that the company lives on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2007 23:15:46 GMT -5
Wasn't that just to do a blood test just to start one? I don't think they have anything solid. I believe Dixie even said they don't have something like wellness when there was the question of Angle joining TNA not at 100%. Yeah, but why haven't they started it? This was a big deal and it seems to have gone nowhere. They cannot under their right mind give insurance to workers who work elsewhere and take the risk of being injured. If that was the case they would pay for Homicide's injury, and Sonjay's as well...They provide a forum for the worker to make money and in that since thats all that is to really be expected. Even offering to loan Konnan the money knowing that if complications arise and he dies on the table, that to me shows class from TNA. This is true NOW, but I thought the whole point of TNA owning wrestlers' names and controlling their indy bookings was to control for this risk. It just seems like TNA wants to have its cake and eat it too. Exactly but they dont own Konnans name or control his indy bookings, nor Homicide and Sonjays as well... |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 4, 2007 23:16:35 GMT -5
i think they should pay for wrestlers hotels. It makes sense to me. Its only 3 times a month. I heard they were making money, why are they cutting costs? Making money because they're cutting costs? |
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Post by nisi on Jan 4, 2007 23:17:58 GMT -5
Exactly but they dont own Konnans name or control his indy bookings, nor Homicide and Sonjays as well... And that's fair, if guys want to stay independent then they have to take their chances. But it just frustrates me to see this big insurance plan seem to fizzle out. |
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Post by angryfan on Jan 4, 2007 23:36:52 GMT -5
The insurance thing is a tricky issue, for sure. Like everybody else, I hope he gets the transplant and is ok, that goes without saying.
What gets me is the double standard that I don't think's been mentioned yet. TNA shouldn't be responsible for injuries that occur while talent that works for them is working elsewhere, but if a talent (Monty Brown for example) says they want to just work for TNA, then they become more insistant that he does in fact work indy shows.
What would have happened had Monty stayed with TNA, worked an indy show which the company insisted he work, and he got injured?
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Post by wolfe3001 on Jan 4, 2007 23:41:57 GMT -5
*is proud to live in Canada*
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 4, 2007 23:42:21 GMT -5
The insurance thing is a tricky issue, for sure. Like everybody else, I hope he gets the transplant and is ok, that goes without saying. What gets me is the double standard that I don't think's been mentioned yet. TNA shouldn't be responsible for injuries that occur while talent that works for them is working elsewhere, but if a talent (Monty Brown for example) says they want to just work for TNA, then they become more insistant that he does in fact work indy shows. What would have happened had Monty stayed with TNA, worked an indy show which the company insisted he work, and he got injured? The difference is that Monty needed to do them because TNA wanted him to advance his skill set in the ring before he was pushed toward the title. Plus, this isn't some injury that Konnan got in an indy show one night or out partying with the boys. It was a injury that built up a long time, before TNA ever began. |
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