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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 29, 2007 0:59:40 GMT -5
I liked when AJ Styles just let himself lose in his LMS match against Rhino, but the way they did it made sense. It doesn't make sense in Title matches.
...Especially Title matches after the Champ beat the challenger clean the week before.
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Post by Hemmeorrhage on Jan 29, 2007 1:08:01 GMT -5
Fans of 80's wrestling might remember that on almost every wrestling show a Heel would pretend that he was so pissed that he was just going to leave in the middle of the match. It was just a stalling technique as they would always come back right before being counted out. Well, Test finally supplied the fans with a payoff for all the times they wished those 80's heels would have just kept walking out the arena and got counted out. I think Test deserves a round of applause. It's been over twenty years in the making.
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 29, 2007 1:13:26 GMT -5
Holy crap...As a ECW fan and suporter of the "new" "ecw", this really made me angry.
EXTREME angry mind you. It was like "Hm...Let´s...Make Lashley win by count out. Yeah. And Test...Er...Make him leave! Because...Er...He doesn´t want the belt, or something. Yeah."
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 29, 2007 1:13:35 GMT -5
Extreme Continuity Wrestling, on Sci-Fi.
Test getting himself counted out as a challenger makes no sense. It devalues the belt. It devalues Test. It devalues all the people he's beaten in the last 7 months. It devalues the brand, that they can't give Lashley a legit challenger. I mean, Punk lasts 30 minutes in a 90second Rumble, RVD eliminates Masters and lasts a while, Holly looks tough despite an injury, up-and-comers Burke and Cor Von are nowhere to be seen, and this ungrateful horse's ass walks away. He's done, kayfabe-wise. What kind of boss would give him another shot? He's nothing now. Even Dreamer is better than him. Test just went from #2 to maybe out of ECW's top 10.
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 29, 2007 1:16:03 GMT -5
Extreme Continuity Wrestling, on Sci-Fi. Test getting himself counted out as a challenger makes no sense. It devalues the belt. It devalues Test. It devalues all the people he's beaten in the last 7 months. It devalues the brand, that they can't give Lashley a legit challenger. I mean, Punk lasts 30 minutes in a 90second Rumble, RVD eliminates Masters and lasts a while, Holly looks tough despite an injury, up-and-comers Burke and Cor Von are nowhere to be seen, and this ungrateful horse's ass walks away. He's done, kayfabe-wise. What kind of boss would give him another shot? He's nothing now. Even Dreamer is better than him. Test just went from #2 to maybe out of ECW's top 10. BUT since he is big and is an Vince "original" he will get anyway.
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 29, 2007 1:19:51 GMT -5
Exactly! And now he'll lose any heat he had. If Holly wants to work Lashley like Finlay did him and Batista to try to make them improve, then now is the time to do it. Now they have Punk, Burke and Cor Von being built as legit threats. So Test and Holly have to be the crap between RVD/Sabu/Big Show and Punk/Lashley/Burke/Cor Von [*one of these things is not like the others...*]. And Test can't even pull off the heel tactics right. But he'll still be there.
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Post by joeman on Jan 29, 2007 1:34:10 GMT -5
So the match was bad to the extreme?
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 29, 2007 1:38:55 GMT -5
Test got clotheslined, went to the floor, down until 7, on his feet at 9, and got himself counted out. Lashley goes after him, brings him back to the ring, and gives him the bulldog powerslam. This only 5-7 minutes into the match. Amazingly, it did reach my low expectations. I told my friend I watched with, as long as this isn't a trainwreck of epic proportions, it won't be as bad as I expect. And the sad thing is, I did enjoy Lashley working a body part and wrestling. He was fine. But Test just flatout didn't belong there, didn't look like he was interested in being there, and didn't do anything that made any sense from either a kayfabe or business perspective.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 29, 2007 1:39:31 GMT -5
Wow. I didn't think there would be a worse way to end the match than have Test win it but..............there it is. At least with Test winning (and that woulda been a horrible booking decision, folks) it has a sort of sense to it. This is just...........................idiotic. This reeks of WCW right before it went down.
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Jan 29, 2007 1:39:47 GMT -5
Terrible ending. If anything they should have done that Tuesday and the Tuesday match tonight. It would have made more sense. yea, like steph i mean vince wants ecw to make sence?!?!??! ;D
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 29, 2007 1:55:51 GMT -5
Just got home about an hour ago, I wrote my review on another computer which has NO connection on it right now, so I will wait until it works until I post it, but as for this match, I can say quickly that I immediately started taking my snack break after the opener and didn't come back until the entrances of Batista vs. Kennedy, although I did hear the announcement of the countout finish. Sounds like I missed out on a classic match of the year contender.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 29, 2007 2:08:16 GMT -5
I guess Test is the new Impact Player of ECW in that he's making an Impact on the number of brain cells people lose trying to figure out how he can be such a kayfabe dumbass. Or does he just have a bipolar syndrome?
I want the title! Now I don't want the title! I want the title! Now I don't want the title! I want the title! Now I don't want the title! I want the title! Now I don't want the title!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 2:22:50 GMT -5
The way I see it is that when Lashley kicks out of the Test Boot it just goes against Test's all time fantasy of how he envisions winning the ECW Title, as the Impact Player he's so awfully particular about how he makes his impact and Lashley kicking out of the greatest boot in the business probably just killed his oomph.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 29, 2007 12:24:44 GMT -5
All I can say is that if ECW has any desire at all to salvage this mess, it's to completely remove Test from the title picture on this week's episode. They should be like "Well Test had two chances to win the title, and couldn't get the job done. The new #1 contender is <whoever>."
I have a bad feeling though that Test is going to come out this week and start whining about wanting "his" ECW title. You know, the same ECW title that he walked out of a title match on at the PPV.
We absolutely do not need Test-Lashley 3. Hell, I'm not too convinced that the world even needed Test-Lashley 1.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 29, 2007 12:26:38 GMT -5
I have been making a point to watch ECW and I'm trying to support it and stay positive. But come on, Test intentionally getting himself counted out? WTF? It's not like he was the champion and he was getting himself counted out to save his title. He was the challenger!! So now not only was Test booked to lose twice cleanly to Lashley within a week, but he just told the world that he doesn't care about the ECW title since he basically said "screw it" and forfeited the match. I hope that maybe this was just a way of ending the feud, with Lashley as the feud winner. Here's hoping that Lashley will move on to a new challenger who actually WANTS to win the title, and here's hoping it happens THIS WEEK. And here's hoping it's not Sparky Plugg.
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Post by randomranter on Jan 29, 2007 12:52:05 GMT -5
Well, let's take a look at this match from start to finish:
First, it's for the ECW world title -- a title that has not had an ECW wrestler (save Sabu) wrestle for it since RVD won it back at ONS2. Every challenger except for Sabu has been a WWE original.
The competitors are Test and Lashley. Test has sucked since the dawn of time, and is about as over as a lead balloon. He is in a class of wrestlers consisting of such superstars as Billy Gunn, X-Pac, and Hardcore Holly -- wrestlers who will always suck and never be over. Lashley is generic hoss #463, has about as much charisma as bread mold, and has barely more talent. He's already been virtually obsoleted by the recently-debuted Monty Brown, and only has the title because of Vince's hard-on for big, generic hosses. A first-grader's school play will put more asses in seats than either Test or Lashley ever will -- at least the kids' parents actually give a damn enough to show up.
Test is in a world title match. The words "Test" and "World Title match" should never be in the same sentence. Ever. Then again, I could probably say the same about Lashley as well.
We just got this match on TV. 5 Days earlier. Lashley won clean. And the fans didn't care then, either.
The match wasn't even "Extreme rules". Yet the Cena/Umaga match was a Last-man-standing match -- which virtually means "no rules". Shouldn't this have been the other way around?
Despite having a load of potential talent that the fans actually show something remotely resembling interest in (Monty Brown, CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Sabu, Sandman, RVD .... Hell, even Kevin Thorne), Vince insists on having two guys (Hardcore Holly and Test) continually pushed at a main-event level, despite neither one having been over in their (give or take) 10+ year careers.
The last time we saw an ECW match on PPV was December to Dismember. And we all know how well that show went..........
The match was ill timed, booked horribly, and consisted of wrestlers that the fans couldn't care less about. And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, the ending of the match not only kills what little value and respect the ECW title held (When a curtain-jerker-for-life like Test simply walks away from the belt, you might as well just throw it in the garbage can, Madusa style.), but it also kills Test's credibility (if he had any), Lashley's, and every wrestler that was beat by these two recently.
Good Job, Vince. You took a bad match with bad wrestlers and made it worse than even your most critical fans thought possible.
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Post by FCVDave on Jan 29, 2007 13:00:29 GMT -5
I jokingly said to my friend when Test rolled out "What would you do if this just ended in a count out?"
Me and my big mouth.
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Post by cronker on Jan 29, 2007 18:28:03 GMT -5
Terrible match.
Test couldn't even keep his boot laces tied up.
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 29, 2007 18:32:25 GMT -5
It was without a doubt one of the worst endings to a world title match ever. So now what's the point of Test being on ECW, if he doesn't care about their top title? Hey at least a title didnt change hands by I dunno, A DQ, thank god a world title has never changed hands that way in the E. (Gotta stay positive right?)
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Post by Boomaga on Jan 29, 2007 18:43:06 GMT -5
It didn't make sense, bottom line. You spend months building up Test and have him talking about how much he deserves the title and deserves a shot, then he walks out on said title shot. This is WCW-quality booking, I haven't seen a promotion run down this hard since Mr. Russo.
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