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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 21, 2007 16:41:15 GMT -5
The Rock boos at WM 18 were unreal. And Hogan was the fricken heel. The only time they popped for Rocky was the "Preprogammed in their brains" nip up pop.
Unless you watch the DVD or replay, where they make it sound like it was 50/50.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 21, 2007 16:41:25 GMT -5
Pushing them HOW? Jobbing them to established talent at the end of EVERY FEUD? By giving them all of the TV time, putting them in main event matches.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 21, 2007 16:43:10 GMT -5
The Rock boos at WM 18 were unreal. And Hogan was the fricken heel. The only time they popped for Rocky was the "Preprogammed in their brains" nip up pop. Unless you watch the DVD or replay, where they make it sound like it was 50/50. I've never watched the DVD version, but the VHS version had the original blow the roof off the arena HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN pops.
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Post by MGH on Jan 21, 2007 16:45:10 GMT -5
Pushing them HOW? Jobbing them to established talent at the end of EVERY FEUD? By giving them all of the TV time, putting them in main event matches. You have to BEAT somebody. The characters now aren't worse than the ones from years ago, they never BEAT ANYONE. When Taker, HHH, Hogan, and every other 40/50 year old wins every feud no one is GOING TO GET OVER. This waxing mindset is why the company is in the position that it's in now.
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Post by Van Loki - Suck it, ECW on Jan 21, 2007 16:45:23 GMT -5
Are you honestly calling him "stinko"? Come on. That's lame.
Austin > Hogan.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 21, 2007 16:47:44 GMT -5
Ahh this is going to go on for all eternity.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 21, 2007 16:48:26 GMT -5
Well, ten years ago, Austin might actually be able to bump for Hogan to make the match look good. Now, Austin can't take many bumps because of his neck, and Hogan doesn't bump, period. B.S. Stinko" come back all the time and delivers neckbreakers to people. And the bump from that move goes directly on the spine. If he can do that over and over he can wrestle a match.
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Post by Van Loki - Suck it, ECW on Jan 21, 2007 16:48:32 GMT -5
It really is.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 21, 2007 16:49:53 GMT -5
Are you honestly calling him "stinko"? Come on. That's lame. Austin > Hogan. He walked out on all of his fans who had paid to see him wrestle at Taboo Tuesday. He beats up women, and he won't even give the fans a match against HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. He's not Stone Cold, he's Stinko.
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 21, 2007 16:51:15 GMT -5
Austin is god to attitude era WWE fans, Hogan is a god even to non Wrestling fans. I'm not surprised considering Hogan's contributions to the business during the Attitude era that Attitude era fans don't get Hogan.
To me the Attitude era was poop, and it ruined wrestling. There was like maybe 3 or 4 true main event guys.
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Post by thesunbeast on Jan 22, 2007 6:53:52 GMT -5
I'm being honest here, even with Hogan's limited wrestling ability, he's still the greatest of all time. You can't B.S. The fans, someone isn't going to get over because they beat a veteran like Hogan or Undertaker ect...ect. they have to get over before that, and then they become stablished in the fan's minds after they beat a vet, and their greatly over status will be very difficult to halt. If the guy isn't quite over yet, then the fans will see right through it if they go toe to toe or beat a veteran that is still over. It's like when they give a title to someone to try to get them over, it dosen't make any sense, they have to get greatly over in the mid-card first before they move on to the main event.
In the late 80's-early 90's, there were at least 20 wrestlers in the WWE that were mid-card status, but were hugely, hugely over before they ever got a chance at the main event or a title shot. That's why the business was so great then, because there were so many people that were over, that it was a great show from beginning to end, even the first match.
Right now, Kennedy is over, it dosen't matter if he wins or looses anymore, just as long as he dosen't get buried into oblivion, he will always be over. WWE needs more guys like that in the MID-CARD, not the main event. Guys that can get themselves over even when they loose.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 25, 2007 19:21:45 GMT -5
Austin is god to attitude era WWE fans, Hogan is a god even to non Wrestling fans. I'm not surprised considering Hogan's contributions to the business during the Attitude era that Attitude era fans don't get Hogan. To me the Attitude era was poop, and it ruined wrestling. There was like maybe 3 or 4 true main event guys. HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN created the "Attitude era" (or more accurately called the "nWo era"). When he turned heal and formed the nWo he made it cool to be the bad guy. The whole "attitude" in the WWF was a way to copy the incredible success of HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN and the nWo. If not for HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S heal turn and unbelievably over heal character, the WWF would still be featuring guys portraying clowns, race car drivers, dentists, financial advisor's, bull fighters, friars and garbage men instead of wrestlers.
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Post by rossamania on Jan 26, 2007 1:12:36 GMT -5
Do I want the match to happen? Hell yeah! Should the match happen? Hell no. You just contradicted yourself. The fact that fans (including you) want to see it happen is the very reason why it should happen. Sorry for the confusion. Allow me to put it another way: I want to see Hulk Hogan vs. Steve Austin.... simmed on SDvR 2007.
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Post by Banned Member on Jan 26, 2007 2:43:28 GMT -5
You just contradicted yourself. The fact that fans (including you) want to see it happen is the very reason why it should happen. Sorry for the confusion. Allow me to put it another way: I want to see Hulk Hogan vs. Steve Austin.... simmed on SDvR 2007. Done it, but Merc ran down, and both his finisher on the two. It wasn't pretty.
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Post by ronsimmons on Jan 26, 2007 4:14:51 GMT -5
It would be more like this: "Stinko" applies the neck breaker, but instead of going down HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN sits up, his eyes bulge as he begins to HULK up. The crowd goes wild and cheer as HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN points a defying finger and "Stinko" knows fear for the first time. Oh yeah, big boot, legdrop 1-2-3. LOL Austin all the way, I can't stand Hogan and think Austin is one of the greatest to ever get in the ring.
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Post by The Boss on Jan 26, 2007 14:29:49 GMT -5
LOL Austin all the way, I can't stand Hogan and think Austin is one of the greatest to ever get in the ring. If he's so great then why won't he wrestle HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN? I'll tell you why, because he's afraid -- that's right, "Stinko" Steve is [/b] afraid[/b] -- of getting out popped. "Stinko's" fans like to say that he is as popular as HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN, but he knows that his popularity is no where near the level of HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S. "Stinko" has already disgraced himself among many fans by walking out on them after they had paid to see him as well as for beating up women. The only thing he has left are the blind Stinkmarks who still think that he's the most popular ever. But once the match happens and "Stinko" gets out popped, his myth of popularity will be shattered forever. That's why "Stinko" wouldn't face HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania X8 and that's why he won't face him know. Stinko" is a coward.
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Post by Banned Member on Jan 26, 2007 14:36:19 GMT -5
LOL Austin all the way, I can't stand Hogan and think Austin is one of the greatest to ever get in the ring. If he's so great then why won't he wrestle HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN? I'll tell you why, because he's afraid -- that's right, "Stinko" Steve is [/b] afraid[/b] -- of getting out popped. "Stinko's" fans like to say that he is as popular as HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN, but he knows that his popularity is no where near the level of HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S. "Stinko" has already disgraced himself among many fans by walking out on them after they had paid to see him as well as for beating up women. The only thing he has left are the blind Stinkmarks who still think that he's the most popular ever. But once the match happens and "Stinko" gets out popped, his myth of popularity will be shattered forever. That's why "Stinko" wouldn't face HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania X8 and that's why he won't face him know. Stinko" is a coward.[/quote] Ummm ya.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 26, 2007 14:36:20 GMT -5
LOL Austin all the way, I can't stand Hogan and think Austin is one of the greatest to ever get in the ring. If he's so great then why won't he wrestle HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN? I'll tell you why, because he's afraid -- that's right, "Stinko" Steve is [/b] afraid[/b] -- of getting out popped. "Stinko's" fans like to say that he is as popular as HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN, but he knows that his popularity is no where near the level of HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S. "Stinko" has already disgraced himself among many fans by walking out on them after they had paid to see him as well as for beating up women. The only thing he has left are the blind Stinkmarks who still think that he's the most popular ever. But once the match happens and "Stinko" gets out popped, his myth of popularity will be shattered forever. That's why "Stinko" wouldn't face HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania X8 and that's why he won't face him know. Stinko" is a coward.[/quote] Austin doesn't want to work with Hogan because he'd much rather have his final WrestleMania match be against one of his best friends, The Rock. Not only that, but why should he risk further injuring his neck? And I believe, for the record, the reason Austin refused to work with Hulk Hogan back in '02 is because Hogan pulled that crap on Austin when Austin was a rising star in WCW. So then 7 years Later, Hogan shows up in WWE and wants to work with Austin? Yep, Austin threw it right back in his face.
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Post by ronsimmons on Jan 26, 2007 14:38:03 GMT -5
LOL Austin all the way, I can't stand Hogan and think Austin is one of the greatest to ever get in the ring. If he's so great then why won't he wrestle HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN? I'll tell you why, because he's afraid -- that's right, "Stinko" Steve is [/b] afraid[/b] -- of getting out popped. "Stinko's" fans like to say that he is as popular as HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN, but he knows that his popularity is no where near the level of HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S. "Stinko" has already disgraced himself among many fans by walking out on them after they had paid to see him as well as for beating up women. The only thing he has left are the blind Stinkmarks who still think that he's the most popular ever. But once the match happens and "Stinko" gets out popped, his myth of popularity will be shattered forever. That's why "Stinko" wouldn't face HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania X8 and that's why he won't face him know. Stinko" is a coward.[/quote] Stinko? Please stop this, you look stupid.
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Post by The Jeebus on Jan 26, 2007 14:47:08 GMT -5
I am discussion relevant to the topic. And I am not here.
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