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Post by heyman on Jan 23, 2007 11:29:36 GMT -5
For some reason he is always losing matches. I never liked Carlito but at least let him win some matches.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 23, 2007 11:33:17 GMT -5
if he is he's being punished cause he's not working his ass off ever since Orton went over him clean.
frankly I can understand.
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Post by kwydjebo on Jan 23, 2007 11:35:11 GMT -5
I like Carlito.
Once upon a time, when he was given the mic on a somewhat regular basis, he was usually pretty damned entertaining I found.
Now, he's a whipping boy.
I don't mind him losing to Kenny if they are actually going to give Kenny a push and try to build him up some....but the beat down from Khali last week was pointless, and the loss and win to Masters previously (Masterroidpiece won at the PPV but lost on the next night's RAW) just seem to do nothing.
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 23, 2007 11:50:15 GMT -5
I like Carlito. Once upon a time, when he was given the mic on a somewhat regular basis, he was usually pretty damned entertaining I found. Now, he's a whipping boy. I don't mind him losing to Kenny if they are actually going to give Kenny a push and try to build him up some....but the beat down from Khali last week was pointless, and the loss and win to Masters previously (Master roidpiece won at the PPV but lost on the next night's RAW) just seem to do nothing. The beat down from Khali is building the monster. If Khali just came down and destroyed Val Venis, no one would take him serious because everyone beats Val now-a-days. The only way to work something like that is to have Khali do something like he did last night. Carlito may have lost a few matches, but the crowd loves him and Khali beating him down and chokebombing him gets their attention. |
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Post by BHB on Jan 23, 2007 11:59:23 GMT -5
He's been phoning it in for the last year.
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Post by The OP on Jan 23, 2007 12:02:57 GMT -5
I've defended Carlito's ring work in the past, but I have to admit it seems he hasn't been working as hard lately. I was kind of embarassed for him on Monday, because it seemed like the less experienced Kenny had to work his ass off to sell Carlito's sloppy offense and kinda carried the match. It made me appreciate Kenny a bit more though.
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Post by cronker on Jan 23, 2007 19:58:16 GMT -5
He's not being used properly IMHO.
He should have remained either a heel or elevated to a tweener. He simply doesn't cut it as a face.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 23, 2007 20:01:30 GMT -5
He's really not that good IMO. He's ok, but I think we've seen all we're gonna see outta Carlito talent wise. They may push him further, but I don't think he's ever gonna bring any more to the table than he has.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 23, 2007 20:05:39 GMT -5
He's really not that good IMO. He's ok, but I think we've seen all we're gonna see outta Carlito talent wise. They may push him further, but I don't think he's ever gonna bring any more to the table than he has. As for the excuse of 'well, he hasn't been given anything to work with', well, he'll continue not having anything so long as he's a sloppy and lazy and downright boring in the ring as he is at the moment. They can have him make out with all the Divas that they want, and I'll continue not caring. That sounds harsh, but the man just doesn't do it for me in any capacity other than a comedy heel. |
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Post by molson5 on Jan 23, 2007 20:30:40 GMT -5
Carlito is so slow in the ring and has such a soft offense right now.
I'd push him as a heel Puerto Rican thug, and maybe rename him "Cool" Carlito Colon. Hide the wrestling weaknesses by making him "hardcore" - basically he'd invoke his father and abdullah the butcher. Maybe do something offensive regarding Brusier Brody.
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Post by REDUNBECK~! on Jan 23, 2007 20:47:57 GMT -5
This is what happens when you suck, and Carlito sucks. It's already been said, but he's the slowest, sloppiest, laziest, most business-exposingly bad worker on RAW if not in the entire wrestling industry. He seems to love the flippy-do offense, and yet he can't do a single flippy-do correctly.
I doubt he could even successfully run, hit the ropes, and do a simple 180 turn mid-air and land on his feet.
1. He apparently can't run.
2. He'd probably try to bounce off the second rope, but miss and slip out of the ring
3. He'd probably under rotate and only turn four degrees
4. He'd probably lose his balance and fall down or at least totter like a Weeble upon landing.
He needs to be punished. He needs to remember that guys on his level have to earn their way up the totem pole. He's getting what he's earned, i.e. jack shit.
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Post by molson5 on Jan 23, 2007 20:49:25 GMT -5
This is what happens when you suck, and Carlito sucks. It's already been said, but he's the slowest, sloppiest, laziest, most business-exposingly bad worker on RAW if not in the entire wrestling industry. He seems to love the flippy-do offense, and yet he can't do a single flippy-do correctly. . I have nothing else to add other than that I like the phrase "flippy-do offense" |
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 23, 2007 20:50:49 GMT -5
With the way he's been moving in the ring, he just sucks so much, is slow, and just seems lazy.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 23, 2007 21:06:58 GMT -5
Punished or not, the guy seems like he's going through the motions. I know they're desperate to continue the storyline w/Trish by having Torrie as the replacement, but it's not working that well. He gets decent pops, but at this rate the guy will never be a main eventer.
Those very...very slow springboard assaults can only go so far,IMO.
He's better as a heel.
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Post by The OP on Jan 23, 2007 21:08:10 GMT -5
I know. It sucks, because I remember a few matches from right before he grew that stupid goatee where he hit all of his spots and seemed to be working hard and put on a good match. He didn't look all slow and botchy like he has lately. You can't help but notice.
Maybe he's been smoking weed before his matches or something.
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Post by cronker on Jan 23, 2007 21:25:51 GMT -5
From what I've heard, he is apparently very unhappy at the direction he's been put in. He wants to be a heel and he's being forced into being a face.
For this reason, he's lost the spark to perform well. He simply isn't happy doing what he's doing. I say, let him be a heel and then we'll see if his workrate and performance picks up.
They should bring in his brother and square him off against carlito. Carlito turns heel on his brother because he was in WWE first and his little bro shouldn't be trying to copycat him.
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Post by REDUNBECK~! on Jan 23, 2007 21:28:42 GMT -5
The issue isn't whether he enjoys his story arc - the issue is that he's paid to put on a good show and he isn't even trying to. He's not earning his paycheck. If he don't like it, he can go tell the office and get his release. I'm sure they won't miss him.
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 23, 2007 21:40:24 GMT -5
I think he should be put back and smackdown....fresh new feuds with MVP, Kennedy, and Finlay
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Post by Garee on Jan 23, 2007 21:44:31 GMT -5
He has without a doubt lost a step, he just doesn't seem to be into it, but he's really not getting much to do in the long run so I can see how he's lost the fun in it. Though the crowd is always behind him, and with just a little push, he could be back in there.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 23, 2007 23:08:06 GMT -5
Somebody needs to challenge him to a hair vs. hair match, and shave carlito's afro
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