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Post by amsiraK on Jan 18, 2007 10:20:41 GMT -5
Maybe Hogan just has to vote on them. I'd hate to think that he's the one making the decisions. Though I am impressed that he lets anyone other than himself and Ed Leslie get inducted. (LOL - I had to)
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 18, 2007 10:23:21 GMT -5
They should really limit this thing to like 4 a year to make the inductions more meaningful. When you start getting guys like Bossman and the Bushwhackers and Iakeau in there.. it just means so much less. Guys that were midcarders in their hey days and were over, but have no lasting impact on the business. Out of the list tho Hogan gave.. I want to see the Von Erichs, Savage, Dusty, Rude, and Finkel. Does anyone know the list that Russo gave Hogan? I'd like to see what other great nominations the WWE made. Sorry but I think the Bossman DEFINITELY belongs in. He was over as a face AND a heel, in three different decades. That's HoF worthy to me. I have no idea what Curtis Iaukea ever did besides being Kevin Sullivan's "Master" so I wont comment on him. The Bushwackers I loved as a kid, but they never did anything really HoF worthy to me either.
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Post by bshadye413 on Jan 18, 2007 10:41:38 GMT -5
I think this whole thing kind of begs the question--why exactly did McMahon ever tell Hogan the list of candidates?
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 18, 2007 10:41:46 GMT -5
They should really limit this thing to like 4 a year to make the inductions more meaningful. When you start getting guys like Bossman and the Bushwhackers and Iakeau in there.. it just means so much less. Guys that were midcarders in their hey days and were over, but have no lasting impact on the business. Out of the list tho Hogan gave.. I want to see the Von Erichs, Savage, Dusty, Rude, and Finkel. Does anyone know the list that Russo gave Hogan? I'd like to see what other great nominations the WWE made. Sorry but I think the Bossman DEFINITELY belongs in. He was over as a face AND a heel, in three different decades. That's HoF worthy to me. I have no idea what Curtis Iaukea ever did besides being Kevin Sullivan's "Master" so I wont comment on him. The Bushwackers I loved as a kid, but they never did anything really HoF worthy to me either. But with that argument, you'd have to put so many midcarders4life like Duggan in because they were able to stay over. But that means guys like Sid should be in who was insanely over from the early 90's until he snapped his leg, held World Titles in WCW and the WWF... but outside of crapping his pants, hasn't had a real lasting impact on the business. To me it doesn't make sense to induct guys like Bossman before you induct every WWF champ before him... well every champ up until 1999.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 18, 2007 10:43:52 GMT -5
Sorry but I think the Bossman DEFINITELY belongs in. He was over as a face AND a heel, in three different decades. That's HoF worthy to me. I have no idea what Curtis Iaukea ever did besides being Kevin Sullivan's "Master" so I wont comment on him. The Bushwackers I loved as a kid, but they never did anything really HoF worthy to me either. But with that argument, you'd have to put so many midcarders4life like Duggan in because they were able to stay over. But that means guys like Sid should be in who was insanely over from the early 90's until he snapped his leg, held World Titles in WCW and the WWF... but outside of crapping his pants, doesn't have much of a legacy. To me it doesn't make sense to induct guys like Bossman before you induct every WWF champ before him... well every champ up until 1999. Well hell, I think Duggan and Sid should be in, too! There's been a LOT of inductees in the past I don't agree with. I dont think JYD was that legendary. Yes, he was over for a short period of time, but he never won a WWF championship that I can remember. His biggest accomplishment is winning the Wrestling Classic tournament over Randy Savage but it was a count out win if I remember correctly or something lame like that. Big John Studd I don't get either. I can think of maybe 2 memorable matches he had. And don't even get me started on Verne Gagne. Gotta get that video library, right Vince?! And should EVERY WWE/WWF champ go in? I'm not sure. I'd really have to go through a list. Savage, HBK, Undertaker, Flair, guys like that HAVE to. A few others I'm iffy on.
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Post by Tonto Goldstein on Jan 18, 2007 10:48:08 GMT -5
Let's stop kidding ourselves. The WWE Hall of Fame is a sham and a joke anyway and just an excuse for them to make figurines and T-shirts and DVDs for years to come. I mean WWE Hall of Famer Pete Rose, perfect example. I've never cared about the Hall of Fame and always thought there was too much emphasis on who was a Hall of Famer or not. Leave those kinds of things to the PWIs and the Meltzer's of the world, not the WWE.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 18, 2007 10:49:34 GMT -5
I dont think Pete Rose is a fair criticism. The "celebrity wing" is a joke anyway and its just to get a little bit of mainstream attention, which I see nothing wrong with (As opposed to the Rosie debacle). Although why they've inducted him and William Perry, but not Mr T, is beyond me.
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Post by Tonto Goldstein on Jan 18, 2007 10:55:11 GMT -5
I dont think Pete Rose is a fair criticism. The "celebrity wing" is a joke anyway and its just to get a little bit of mainstream attention, which I see nothing wrong with (As opposed to the Rosie debacle). Although why they've inducted him and William Perry, but not Mr T, is beyond me. Yeah, probably not fair, but I'm just using it to booster my point that the WWE Hall of Fame is not what fans think it is= it's not something that's done to honor the all-time greats of the business, it's done so WWE can use likenesses on all sorts of new crap merchandise each year. All legitimacy should be thrown totally out the window.
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Post by KLRA on Jan 18, 2007 10:57:03 GMT -5
In regards to them calling and asking Hogan, do you think they might call all the current members of the Hall to get their "vote" towards who they think should join?
Or maybe Vince and Hogan are just pals and Vince was shooting a Hogan a "hey what do you think of this?"
As for Bossman and others being in...Bossman had a huge impact on the buisness. He was over every place that he went to and even mainstream fans know who the BIG BOSSMAN is. Hell, it's been referenced on many TV shows.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 18, 2007 10:59:08 GMT -5
I dont think Pete Rose is a fair criticism. The "celebrity wing" is a joke anyway and its just to get a little bit of mainstream attention, which I see nothing wrong with (As opposed to the Rosie debacle). Although why they've inducted him and William Perry, but not Mr T, is beyond me. Yeah, probably not fair, but I'm just using it to booster my point that the WWE Hall of Fame is not what fans think it is= it's not something that's done to honor the all-time greats of the business, it's done so WWE can use likenesses on all sorts of new crap merchandise each year. All legitimacy should be thrown totally out the window. I disagree, although I dont consider it legitimate either until they rename it the "professional wrestling hall of fame" so they can induct guys like Stan Hansen, Terry Funk, Vader, and Abdullah The Butcher who are tremendous names that belong in, but didn't make their biggest impacts in the WWE. The HoF and licensing do not go hand in hand. As far as action figures go, one only needs to sign with JAKKS, NOT WWE, such is the case recently with Honky Tonk Man and Demolition Ax, to get figures made. Both of those men are on terrible terms with WWE, for instance. For the WWE to license you, you have to sign one of their "legends contracts" (Which HTM refused to sign and mocked on his site). That basically gives them some sort of rights to your name or gimmick in terms of merchandising I know Vader signed one of these, but I cant recall any other names EDIT: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Legends Here you are, but since its wiki god only knows how reliable it is
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 18, 2007 11:03:47 GMT -5
Can't wait to see Bossman inducted
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Post by catwoman on Jan 18, 2007 11:15:40 GMT -5
Well, I just emerged from the basement of this forum and found the list of names and the article about Hogan: SECOND HULK HOGAN ON BUBBA THE LOVE SPONGE REPORT: COMPLETE, DETAILED LIST OF WWE'S CLASS OF 2007 CANDIDATES FOR HALL OF FAME by Shawn Ace @ 7:11:00 PM on 1/12/2007 I'm sure you probably got a lot of emails on this, but I thought I'd send another one. Hulk Hogan was just on the Bubba The Love Sponge show and was a bit drunk, and while he was on the air he got a phone call from Vince McMahon's secretary Ann Russo. She wanted to go over the list of names for possible induction into the Hall Of Fame this year. What she didn't know was that Hogan put her on speaker phone so all the names went out over the air. When he eventually told her she was on the air, she said she'd get in trouble and sounded rather shocked. Anyway, the list of names were (I wrote them down as she read off the names): The Von Erichs Ultimate Warrior The Original Sheik Ric Flair Mr. Fuji Nick Bockwinkel Muhammed Ali Mr. T Mike Tyson Howard Finkel Jim Ross Ken Patera King Curtis Ted DiBiase Jake "The Snake" Roberts Honky Tonk Man Randy Savage Dusty Rhodes Dick Ebersol (NBC Executive responsible for creation of Saturday Night's Main Event) The Wild Samoans Big Boss Man Bob Backlund Rick Rude The Bushwhackers Rocky Johnson The Brooklyn Brawler Hogan was then asked to pick 10 names, and he said, "the names I pick go into the Hall Of Fame?" He then picked: Big Boss Man King Curtis Dusty Rhodes Randy Savage Wild Samoans Von Erichs Rick Rude Bushwhackers Hogan then he picked Howard Finkel once he got off the phone. He did say that was a "heat getter" and I can't imagine Vince will be too happy once he finds out. Anyway, it was great radio. credit: www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=22325&p=1 *brushes dust and cobwebs off* You're welcome!
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Post by skskillz on Jan 18, 2007 11:24:13 GMT -5
I think this whole thing kind of begs the question--why exactly did McMahon ever tell Hogan the list of candidates? I'm guessing because Vince wants Hogan to induct someone during the televised portion of the event (like Mean Gene last year). Either that or Vince just wants input. As far as Randy Savage, I think the hate between him and Hogan comes more from Savage than it does Hogan. At least that's the impression I get. Either way, I hope Vince listens. Whatever heat there is between Vince and Savage, just swallow pride and make it happen. Savage needs to be acknowledged positively. Not that the HOF is anything but a shrine to people Vince either likes at the present moment or guys that are guaranteed to kiss Vince's ass on television, but it would be nice to see Savage recognized.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 11:57:39 GMT -5
I still have doubts about any WWE list that includes Savage & Warrior in a non-burying them environment
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 18, 2007 12:01:54 GMT -5
I'd wish Hogan/Savage would make up and then Hogan says "I won't be at the HoF if you don't induct Savage." Leading to the great HoF speech of Savage's.. "Wellllllll it's been a long while since the Machoooo Man has been here. Ohhhhh yeahhh. Heyyy Steph, last time I saw you , you were 14. OOOHHHHHH YEAHHHH!"
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 18, 2007 12:48:52 GMT -5
and Russo has a secretary named McMahon... McMahon's middle name is Kennedy and Russo's middle name is Lincoln
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