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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 1, 2007 15:24:20 GMT -5
Because I'm one of the best posters on this forum who knows my wrestling history and always backs up my posts with fact. You mean like your ridiculous claims that Hogan is still the top draw today when buyrates and ratings numbers since 02 would prove you wrong? Yeah, real factual. Don't bother, MGH. It can only end in tears.
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Post by MGH on Feb 1, 2007 15:29:43 GMT -5
You mean like your ridiculous claims that Hogan is still the top draw today when buyrates and ratings numbers since 02 would prove you wrong? Yeah, real factual. Don't bother, MGH. It can only end in tears. Yeah I know. My patience wears thin sometimes on here. Let him think what he wants I guess.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Feb 1, 2007 16:03:58 GMT -5
cena
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Post by skskillz on Feb 1, 2007 16:12:36 GMT -5
You mean like your ridiculous claims that Hogan is still the top draw today when buyrates and ratings numbers since 02 would prove you wrong? Yeah, real factual. Well, the last WWE PPV headlined by Hogan drew a 1.34 buyrate (Summerslam 2005). Summerslam drew 0.94 in 2003 and 2004, so it was a pretty substantial increase with Hogan main eventing. His matches can still draw money.
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Post by viscera on Feb 1, 2007 16:17:27 GMT -5
Why they allow gimmick posters like you to stay on these boards to annoy the living crap out of people is beyond me. Because I'm one of the best posters on this forum who knows my wrestling history and always backs up my posts with fact. Anyone can say they are one of the best posters on a forum... doesn't mean it's true.
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Post by MGH on Feb 1, 2007 16:18:22 GMT -5
You mean like your ridiculous claims that Hogan is still the top draw today when buyrates and ratings numbers since 02 would prove you wrong? Yeah, real factual. Well, the last WWE PPV headlined by Hogan drew a 1.34 buyrate (Summerslam 2005). Summerslam drew 0.94 in 2003 and 2004, so it was a pretty substantial increase with Hogan main eventing. His matches can still draw money. Which is why I didn't say ALL. I know Summerslam is the exception. And I'm also not naive enough to think that was ALL Hogan. The dream match scenario had something to do with it. When he wrestled HHH for the belt in 02, it did the lowest Backlash buyrate in 4 years and no one cared. Same with the ratings during his title reign. Went up, then went down every week until he lost it. Same with KotR 2002 and No Way Out 03. People didn't exactly rush to buy those shows. And they featured Hogan/Rock II and his first match with Kurt Angle. I'm not disputing that he can draw in people. I'm disputing this Hogan mark going on and on about how he's the top draw today when that's a load of crap.
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Post by Garee on Feb 1, 2007 16:27:00 GMT -5
I don't want Hogan as champ again
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Post by The Boss on Feb 1, 2007 17:54:40 GMT -5
Because I'm one of the best posters on this forum who knows my wrestling history and always backs up my posts with fact. Anyone can say they are one of the best posters on a forum... doesn't mean it's true. I haven't been in this forum very long. You don't know me yet. But trust me, before long everyone in here will realize that I am indeed one of the best (I say "one of" only because I don't know all of you yet either. There might be a few good posters in here.) and you will either love me or hate me. Either way, you will want to here what I have to say whether it's to debate me or cheer me on.
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Post by The Boss on Feb 1, 2007 18:05:31 GMT -5
Which is why I didn't say ALL. I know Summerslam is the exception. And I'm also not naive enough to think that was ALL Hogan. The dream match scenario had something to do with it. When he wrestled HHH for the belt in 02, it did the lowest Backlash buyrate in 4 years and no one cared. Same with the ratings during his title reign. Went up, then went down every week until he lost it. Same with KotR 2002 and No Way Out 03. People didn't exactly rush to buy those shows. And they featured Hogan/Rock II and his first match with Kurt Angle. I'm not disputing that he can draw in people. I'm disputing this Hogan mark going on and on about how he's the top draw today when that's a load of crap. Before HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN came back the WWF ratings were in a tailspin. But once HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN came back they leveled off. Unfortunately, during that time the WWF was listening to all of those internet fans (who represent a very small minority of wrestling fans) who were saying HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN should be jobbing to new talent. So HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN spent that entire stint with the WWF jobbing to people. The fans didn't like it. Fans don't want to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN job. Even the few matches that he was allowed to win had to come as a result of someone interfering and winning the match for him all in an attempt to put the younger guys over. It didn't work. But since HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN has returned to being the dominant star that everyone loves, buyrates have always gone up whenever he's around. Perfect example: When tickets went on sale for WrestleMania 23 HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was the only name confirmed for the card. Even his opponent was 100%. Yet on HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S name alone WrestleMania sold out in one hour. Nobody else has ever done that.
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Post by MGH on Feb 1, 2007 18:21:08 GMT -5
Which is why I didn't say ALL. I know Summerslam is the exception. And I'm also not naive enough to think that was ALL Hogan. The dream match scenario had something to do with it. When he wrestled HHH for the belt in 02, it did the lowest Backlash buyrate in 4 years and no one cared. Same with the ratings during his title reign. Went up, then went down every week until he lost it. Same with KotR 2002 and No Way Out 03. People didn't exactly rush to buy those shows. And they featured Hogan/Rock II and his first match with Kurt Angle. I'm not disputing that he can draw in people. I'm disputing this Hogan mark going on and on about how he's the top draw today when that's a load of crap. But since HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN has returned to being the dominant star that everyone loves, buyrates have always gone up whenever he's around. . You mean like that awesome rating SNME did last summer for his heavily hyped appearance? Oh nevermind, it TANKED.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 1, 2007 18:27:23 GMT -5
The IWC would probaly commit suicide before they would watch that match!
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Post by MGH on Feb 1, 2007 18:28:41 GMT -5
Which is why I didn't say ALL. I know Summerslam is the exception. And I'm also not naive enough to think that was ALL Hogan. The dream match scenario had something to do with it. When he wrestled HHH for the belt in 02, it did the lowest Backlash buyrate in 4 years and no one cared. Same with the ratings during his title reign. Went up, then went down every week until he lost it. Same with KotR 2002 and No Way Out 03. People didn't exactly rush to buy those shows. And they featured Hogan/Rock II and his first match with Kurt Angle. I'm not disputing that he can draw in people. I'm disputing this Hogan mark going on and on about how he's the top draw today when that's a load of crap. Before HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN came back the WWF ratings were in a tailspin. But once HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN came back they leveled off. Unfortunately, during that time the WWF was listening to all of those internet fans (who represent a very small minority of wrestling fans) who were saying HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN should be jobbing to new talent. So HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN spent that entire stint with the WWF jobbing to people. The fans didn't like it. Fans don't want to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN job. . But according to you he's THE BIGGEST DRAW EVER IN THIS...GAH! It shouldn't matter if they were in a tailspin. He should bring in TEH MILLIONS to have brought them back up. And after checking out OWW, let's look at all those young guys he jobbed to shall we? First: Undertaker. Hardly new. Second: Kurt Angle. Hardly new. Third: Brock Lesnar. Helped make Brock a star. Forth: Rock. Hardly new yet again. So....who are these new people? He lost by count out and DQ a couple of times to the nWo and O'Haire. No jobbing there either.
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Post by The Boss on Feb 1, 2007 18:31:12 GMT -5
But since HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN has returned to being the dominant star that everyone loves, buyrates have always gone up whenever he's around. . You mean like that awesome rating SNME did last summer for his heavily hyped appearance? Oh nevermind, it TANKED. Exactly. HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN came out at the very beginning and then left with no apparent hint that he would be seen later. There was no way to register how many people were watching at the beginning. But what we do know is that nobody bothered to watch the rest of the stars. Chances are that many people tuned in to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN and tuned out after his segment was over. After all that Saturday Night's Main Event really sucked. It deserved the rating it got. If the WWF had put HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN on later, or made it clear that we would see him again later the ratings might have been different. That of coarse is only speculation, but judging by how ratings are almost always higher whenever HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is around, it is a logical conclusion.
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