Corporate H
Grimlock
He Buries Them Alive
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Post by Corporate H on Feb 16, 2007 0:44:56 GMT -5
But why? Why would they go through all the effort just to blow it all off?
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JMA
Hank Scorpio
Down With Capitalism!
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Post by JMA on Feb 16, 2007 0:45:37 GMT -5
Incidentally, I liked Dark City. That doesn't mean a gimmick should be based on it, though.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 16, 2007 0:46:53 GMT -5
But why? Why would they go through all the effort just to blow it all off? I believe what happened, and I may be wrong here, so someone correct me if I screw up, was that the gimmick was already planned to debut before Russo took over, hence the vignettes and all that. Then, when Russo took over the booking, he decided he didn't like it, so he had Dustin do a worked shoot over the whole thing and just be himself. Still a waste, but at least that's an explanation. |
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Post by angryfan on Feb 16, 2007 0:49:19 GMT -5
But why? Why would they go through all the effort just to blow it all off? I believe what happened, and I may be wrong here, so someone correct me if I screw up, was that the gimmick was already planned to debut before Russo took over, hence the vignettes and all that. Then, when Russo took over the booking, he decided he didn't like it, so he had Dustin do a worked shoot over the whole thing and just be himself. Still a waste, but at least that's an explanation. Yeah, that's pretty dead on Spankymac. He squashed the gimmick, but still, somehow, they decided to, purely for the blow off, use the big entrance. Like I said, that's in line with WCW thinking though. Van Hammer gets his "debut" entrance, complete with a prefessionally made rock video for his entrance, which ran the company 25 large. |
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Flexy Lexy
Don Corleone
LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYER
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Post by Flexy Lexy on Feb 16, 2007 0:49:22 GMT -5
Wasn't Goldust supposed to return in WCW as Plutonium?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 16, 2007 11:05:35 GMT -5
wouldn't have worked had they kept the gimmick. Look at the makeup and tell me with a straight face that he could pass as an Undertaker like heel.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Feb 16, 2007 11:16:34 GMT -5
It's a shame he didn't bring the Pale Horse with him when he came out.
That vignette that had the VO that said "...And he rides on a pale horse, named....The Pale Horse" was hilarious. They tried to be so serious on that one, and they failed.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 16, 2007 11:42:43 GMT -5
The Entrance was cool. The gimmick really could of had pential.
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Post by joeman on Feb 16, 2007 13:57:53 GMT -5
I don't think the world was ready for a pedophile gimmick back then nor are they ready now.
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Post by Kerry Von Erich is my hero on Feb 16, 2007 14:18:17 GMT -5
Cant really add to what has already been said, but yeah, he was supposed to be some kind of uber heel, and when Russo entered the picture, he squashed it. and not only did he squash it, he made the angle into a quasi-shoot
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Ken Ivory
Hank Scorpio
This sorta thing IS my bag, baby.
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Post by Ken Ivory on Feb 16, 2007 14:19:46 GMT -5
I don't think the world was ready for a pedophile gimmick back then nor are they ready now. The world wasn't ready for the original Goldust either. |
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4real
Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Feb 16, 2007 14:53:56 GMT -5
He got one thing right.....Dustin Rhodes IS boring.
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Post by KB Klash is nWo 4 Life on Feb 16, 2007 17:04:14 GMT -5
Vince Russo is awesome
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Post by Se7en: Horse That Wrote Poems on Feb 16, 2007 20:37:08 GMT -5
BAH GAWD KEENG!!! IT"S SEVEN!!!! I appreciate the free publicity. ;D |
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Ken Ivory
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This sorta thing IS my bag, baby.
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Post by Ken Ivory on Feb 16, 2007 22:17:09 GMT -5
Lo at 2:22 after Seven says "Goldust nearly ruined my career" some guy in the audience shouts "you never had one!"
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Post by Diddly on Feb 16, 2007 22:25:27 GMT -5
I like how all of the signs in the crowd are WWF related in some way.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 16, 2007 23:40:38 GMT -5
Goldust nearly ruin his career. No it saved it. Which is why two years later he returns to the WWE as Goldust.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 18, 2007 12:12:55 GMT -5
You know as I watched this video, it really made me kind of upset actually.
For one, it WAS a cool entrance I thought. A lot of people are saying that Seven would have been wrestlecrap if they kept the character, but I don't think it necessarily would have. It was potential crap sure... but they could have done it in such a way that it could have worked. I mean, Seven's look and entrance is no more over-the-top than Boogeyman's. It's also no more over the top than Pirate Burchill's. If they made Seven a character more of a guy who THOUGHT he was a ghost even though we all just thought he was insane, it could have worked. Instead, they turned Dustin into the era's 5,432nd guy to wrestle "as himself" and do nothing more than win a few midcard matches.
Secondly, that "shoot" was awful. Dustin said that Goldust nearly killed his career. And I have no doubt that WCW scripted him to say that. Looking back on it, Goldust WAS his career. And rightfully so, since he was never even as CLOSE to being over in any other gimmick he has ever done. Having him denounce Goldust was just WCW firing another shot in the Monday Night War.
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helped $lim jinx NXT. Woops
