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Post by Kerry Von Erich is my hero on Feb 2, 2007 13:01:07 GMT -5
Yeah Renegade was Ultimate Warriorish for a short time. He won the TV Title, then lost it, then he lost the paint and the tights, put his hair in a little pony tail, and grew a goatee, kinda like a sucky version of Rob Conway. Yeah, he basically became a jobber/midcarder after the Warrior thing ran its course. He teamed up with Desperado Joe Gomez for a while, then turned heel and was gone shortly after that. Then he killed himself
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Post by The Boss on Feb 2, 2007 14:01:19 GMT -5
But what I really can't understand is how and why Arn Anderson did the j-o-b to the Renegade and dropped the TV title to him. Because Anderson was a perfesional and not one of these whiney guys they have today crying on the internet everytime they have to job. No wonder these guys can't get over.
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Post by midicai on Feb 2, 2007 14:33:47 GMT -5
and hogan jobbed all the time....
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Post by balmudo on Feb 2, 2007 14:42:58 GMT -5
Off-Topic: I posit that he was the "Widowmaker" because he would kill women's husbands for not wanting to have buttsecks with him. At least judging by that outfit. And he would kill men with the Flying Lariat.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 2, 2007 14:43:36 GMT -5
But what I really can't understand is how and why Arn Anderson did the j-o-b to the Renegade and dropped the TV title to him. The Renegade was just as bad, if not worse, than Erik Watts. NO ONE was worse than Erik Watts. NO ONE! Not Test, PN News, Mark Henry, Kelly Kelly, Loch Ness, Jackie Gayda, Khali, The ICP, or however bad everyone claims Rodimer is. Even at my markiest could I ever believe Erik Watts was a good wrestler. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. I'm ok now.
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Post by reiko22 on Feb 2, 2007 14:50:48 GMT -5
But what I really can't understand is how and why Arn Anderson did the j-o-b to the Renegade and dropped the TV title to him. The Renegade was just as bad, if not worse, than Erik Watts. NO ONE was worse than Erik Watts. NO ONE! Not Test, PN News, Mark Henry, Kelly Kelly, Loch Ness, Jackie Gayda, Khali, The ICP, or however bad everyone claims Rodimer is. Even at my markiest could I ever believe Erik Watts was a good wrestler. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. I'm ok now. what about David Flair?
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 2, 2007 15:01:56 GMT -5
NO ONE was worse than Erik Watts. NO ONE! Not Test, PN News, Mark Henry, Kelly Kelly, Loch Ness, Jackie Gayda, Khali, The ICP, or however bad everyone claims Rodimer is. Even at my markiest could I ever believe Erik Watts was a good wrestler. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. I'm ok now. what about David Flair? Even David Flair. We weren't really supposed to take him seriously. According to early 90's booking Erik Watts was the second coming of Ricky Steamboat.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 2, 2007 19:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 2, 2007 19:44:44 GMT -5
Whoa! Haven't seen heel DDP in a while.
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Post by Kerry Von Erich is my hero on Feb 2, 2007 20:54:48 GMT -5
check out Schiavone's crappy commentary "this is the darkest moment in the history of our sport"
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Feb 2, 2007 22:50:45 GMT -5
There used to be a video on YouTube of Renegade throwing the worst dropkick of all time. Basically he'd jump backwards, then stiffly stick one leg out towards the opponent.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Feb 2, 2007 23:33:32 GMT -5
Casper Wyoming...I was at that show. Hot night, given it was right after Hog Wild on Saturday...
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 3, 2007 14:52:06 GMT -5
Off-Topic: I posit that he was the "Widowmaker" because he would kill women's husbands for not wanting to have buttsecks with him. At least judging by that outfit. And he would kill men with the Flying Lariat. His finisher as The Widowmaker was a super sweet float over Superplex.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 3, 2007 14:56:44 GMT -5
Even David Flair. We weren't really supposed to take him seriously. According to early 90's booking Erik Watts was the second coming of Ricky Steamboat. At least Erik had the courtesy to not be comfortable with his own push. You could tell by the look in his eyes that while he didn't mind beating lesser midcarders, he really did not feel comfortable being booked over Arn and Rude. Also, he did work to improve. His WCW Worldwide appearances in the late 90's was decent work. Plus, his finisher then was a Powerbomb into the top turnbuckle (you know, the move that everyone freaked for when Angle did it to HBK?)
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 3, 2007 15:08:31 GMT -5
Even David Flair. We weren't really supposed to take him seriously. According to early 90's booking Erik Watts was the second coming of Ricky Steamboat. At least Erik had the courtesy to not be comfortable with his own push. You could tell by the look in his eyes that while he didn't mind beating lesser midcarders, he really did not feel comfortable being booked over Arn and Rude. Also, he did work to improve. His WCW Worldwide appearances in the late 90's was decent work. Plus, his finisher then was a Powerbomb into the top turnbuckle (you know, the move that everyone freaked for when Angle did it to HBK?) His finisher was the STF back when he was super push golden boy. There was a painful ten minute clip of him learning it from a Japanese wrestler (including using Marcus Bagwell as the practice dummy) to further illustrate that the STF was DEATH! The only late 90's stuff I ever saw from him was when he was a Hardy knockoff and jobbing on Saturday Night. Even if he had improved the damage was done because Erik Watts was the first guy I absolutley hated in every aspect. As for the worst dropkick, once again the award goes to Erik...
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Post by Jeff on Feb 3, 2007 15:17:32 GMT -5
Wasn't Erik Watts in TNA for a while? I think i have a DVD of him vs. Goldust or someone like that, maybe Raven?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 3, 2007 15:34:15 GMT -5
At least Erik had the courtesy to not be comfortable with his own push. You could tell by the look in his eyes that while he didn't mind beating lesser midcarders, he really did not feel comfortable being booked over Arn and Rude. Also, he did work to improve. His WCW Worldwide appearances in the late 90's was decent work. Plus, his finisher then was a Powerbomb into the top turnbuckle (you know, the move that everyone freaked for when Angle did it to HBK?) His finisher was the STF back when he was super push golden boy. There was a painful ten minute clip of him learning it from a Japanese wrestler (including using Marcus Bagwell as the practice dummy) to further illustrate that the STF was DEATH! The only late 90's stuff I ever saw from him was when he was a Hardy knockoff and jobbing on Saturday Night. Even if he had improved the damage was done because Erik Watts was the first guy I absolutley hated in every aspect. As for the worst dropkick, once again the award goes to Erik... He used the Powerbomb in the late 90's. I am aware that when his dad was boss he used the STF of Death. I even remember he had put Arn in it at a gas station after Arn sneak attacked him. By God, that was really bad.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Feb 3, 2007 16:07:23 GMT -5
His finisher was the STF back when he was super push golden boy. There was a painful ten minute clip of him learning it from a Japanese wrestler (including using Marcus Bagwell as the practice dummy) to further illustrate that the STF was DEATH! The only late 90's stuff I ever saw from him was when he was a Hardy knockoff and jobbing on Saturday Night. Even if he had improved the damage was done because Erik Watts was the first guy I absolutley hated in every aspect. As for the worst dropkick, once again the award goes to Erik... He used the Powerbomb in the late 90's. I am aware that when his dad was boss he used the STF of Death. I even remember he had put Arn in it at a gas station after Arn sneak attacked him. By God, that was really bad. Oh yes, the infamous gas station promo. Another video bit that went on for way too long. How long does it take to get a picture with a couple of hicks anyway?
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Post by balmudo on Feb 3, 2007 16:46:51 GMT -5
His finisher as The Widowmaker was a super sweet float over Superplex. Off-Topic Once More: Oh, I'm well aware of Windhams moveset. He's probably one my top ten favorite guys. I use a lot of his moves as my own in Fire Pro D. He's also my biggest wrestling disappointment in that he never really got over to the main event level. Quite a shame because despite his gut, he definitely had that top guy look. Leather chaps notwithstanding.
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Post by Will Has 'Til Five, Ref on Feb 4, 2007 18:23:47 GMT -5
But what I really can't understand is how and why Arn Anderson did the j-o-b to the Renegade and dropped the TV title to him. The Renegade was just as bad, if not worse, than Erik Watts. Didn't Arn also job to Watts? It seemed like if WCW wanted to get a no-talent over they'd have Arn job to them. I guess because he could make the most average wrestler look like Lou Thez.
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