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Post by kongadave aka Dave Wills on Jan 6, 2007 22:45:31 GMT -5
WOW GUYS!!! I had no idea I was deleted !
LOL! I can add that to my resume.
Deleted from the WikiPedia and Too Normal for Kimmel...
Unbelievable. Thanks anyways for your support. That was really nice and cool.
DW
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 6, 2007 23:22:26 GMT -5
lol Poor KongaDave.
Let´s make a very cool entry about him in Wrestle Crap´s on Crap-A-Pedia!
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 0:08:46 GMT -5
WOW GUYS!!! I had no idea I was deleted ! LOL! I can add that to my resume. Deleted from the WikiPedia and Too Normal for Kimmel... Unbelievable. Thanks anyways for your support. That was really nice and cool. DW Well, glad you're taking it well. I still think that their procedure was tainted in how they did it, so maybe it could be restored using their deletion review, but I'm so sick of that site now, someone else can do it. I still think they are ruining the Teddy Long page as well.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 7, 2007 4:36:25 GMT -5
WOW GUYS!!! I had no idea I was deleted ! LOL! I can add that to my resume. Deleted from the WikiPedia and Too Normal for Kimmel... Unbelievable. Thanks anyways for your support. That was really nice and cool. DW You and Dennis Stamp have something in common: neither of you are booked for Wikipedia. I'M PISSED NOW! Wikipedia can forget about getting any donations from me so long as they allow stuck-up jerks from letting guys like Konga Dave and Dennis Stamp get the recognition they deserve.
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 7:40:36 GMT -5
Well, if we have lost these battles at this point, let's just try to keep the Luger CSFW interview info on his page. And there is no real reason for that to be removed, you can cite sources to the popularity, and it did happen, etc.
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Post by Yann on Jan 7, 2007 8:07:40 GMT -5
Damn, Wikipedia has become such a nerdy place, kinda controlled by cybercops who don't even have a life. Probably people with a lack of self-esteem, explaining why they try to make the rules on the internet, where they are incognito.
Too much ramens for me here.
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 11:54:51 GMT -5
Wikipedia is run by high school students, basically, who just try to pile the place with crap about manga and aren't even the least bit intelligent or knowledgeable. It's a pathetic place.
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Post by KLRA on Jan 7, 2007 12:02:15 GMT -5
Yeah guys don't bother with the wrestlecrap wiki. It gets deleted every single time it gets put up.
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Post by The Line on Jan 7, 2007 12:06:15 GMT -5
its sad. Konga Dave had over 10,000 web hits, and that wasn't enough to stick around
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 7, 2007 12:21:57 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people moderating and "policing" wikipedia, because at least that keeps it accurate. I'm not saying people need to scour wiki 24/7 looking for the slightest hint of vandalism or anything, but I have to admit that sometimes I will look up wrestlers that I see people talking about on wiki to get info.
What I DO have a problem with is how people are obsessive compulsive with updating it. I did a test once. Remember the day when Kenny first got introduced as "Kenny Dykstra" on Raw? As soon as I saw that, I immediately brought up Kenny's wikipedia page. Within a matter of SECONDS, his bio was updated to say "Kenny received the name Kenny Dykstra on the (whatever date it was) episode of Raw. His match on this episode was against Ric Flair" Then I pulled up the bio page again after the match and sure enough "He won this match with Flair" was now on there. It's like holy crap. Number one, Kenny's wiki page does NOT need to have every single match described in great detail. Number two, you don't have to camp out by your computer during episodes of wrestling just in case something new occurs that needs to be documented. To me, THOSE are the real nerds.
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 12:38:01 GMT -5
its sad. Konga Dave had over 10,000 web hits, and that wasn't enough to stick around Well, like I've said, that debate was closed far too early and there was no clear-cut consensus at all. They screwed it up and just closed and deleted the article just to "avoid trouble". If someone wants to put the subject up for Deletion Review (which I guess is like a Court of Appeals), that could be possible and maybe get the article back up. If someone wants me to help them draft a "proposal", LMK or PM me, but I don't want to post or edit on that site anymore.
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 12:45:45 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people moderating and "policing" wikipedia, because at least that keeps it accurate. I'm not saying people need to scour wiki 24/7 looking for the slightest hint of vandalism or anything, but I have to admit that sometimes I will look up wrestlers that I see people talking about on wiki to get info. What I DO have a problem with is how people are obsessive compulsive with updating it. I did a test once. Remember the day when Kenny first got introduced as "Kenny Dykstra" on Raw? As soon as I saw that, I immediately brought up Kenny's wikipedia page. Within a matter of SECONDS, his bio was updated to say "Kenny received the name Kenny Dykstra on the (whatever date it was) episode of Raw. His match on this episode was against Ric Flair" Then I pulled up the bio page again after the match and sure enough "He won this match with Flair" was now on there. It's like holy crap. Number one, Kenny's wiki page does NOT need to have every single match described in great detail. Number two, you don't have to camp out by your computer during episodes of wrestling just in case something new occurs that needs to be documented. To me, THOSE are the real nerds. It's not just wrestling, anything like sports or awards shows will have the article updated seconds after the fact. But that's a good analogy tho, of the camping out. I know they have a project that trys to improve wrestling articles, and they are aware that some editors feel the need to do "week by weeks", which really does hurt and clutter things a lot. When you get a chance, look at the articles for Tammy Sytch and Madusa, this is crap to the extreme. And for a good analysis on wikipedia, I'd recommend listening to Jason Scott's speech "The Great Failure of Wikipedia".
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Post by KLRA on Jan 7, 2007 12:48:46 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with people moderating and "policing" wikipedia, because at least that keeps it accurate. I'm not saying people need to scour wiki 24/7 looking for the slightest hint of vandalism or anything, but I have to admit that sometimes I will look up wrestlers that I see people talking about on wiki to get info. What I DO have a problem with is how people are obsessive compulsive with updating it. I did a test once. Remember the day when Kenny first got introduced as "Kenny Dykstra" on Raw? As soon as I saw that, I immediately brought up Kenny's wikipedia page. Within a matter of SECONDS, his bio was updated to say "Kenny received the name Kenny Dykstra on the (whatever date it was) episode of Raw. His match on this episode was against Ric Flair" Then I pulled up the bio page again after the match and sure enough "He won this match with Flair" was now on there. It's like holy crap. Number one, Kenny's wiki page does NOT need to have every single match described in great detail. Number two, you don't have to camp out by your computer during episodes of wrestling just in case something new occurs that needs to be documented. To me, THOSE are the real nerds. It's not just wrestling, anything like sports or awards shows will have the article updated seconds after the fact. But that's a good analogy tho, of the camping out. I know they have a project that trys to improve wrestling articles, and they are aware that some editors feel the need to do "week by weeks", which really does hurt and clutter things a lot. When you get a chance, look at the articles for Tammy Sytch and Madusa, this is crap to the extreme. And for a good analysis on wikipedia, I'd recommend listening to Jason Scott's speech "The Great Failure of Wikipedia". Link?
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 12:49:58 GMT -5
It's not just wrestling, anything like sports or awards shows will have the article updated seconds after the fact. But that's a good analogy tho, of the camping out. I know they have a project that trys to improve wrestling articles, and they are aware that some editors feel the need to do "week by weeks", which really does hurt and clutter things a lot. When you get a chance, look at the articles for Tammy Sytch and Madusa, this is crap to the extreme. And for a good analysis on wikipedia, I'd recommend listening to Jason Scott's speech "The Great Failure of Wikipedia". Link? I'll PM it to you in a sec, it's R-rated.
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Post by Virus aka Captain No-Nuts on Jan 7, 2007 12:51:47 GMT -5
Too lazy to read the other two pages, but somebody mentioned WP:SNOW as being stupid. WP:SNOW is short for "Snowball's chance in hell", which is a rule that states that if an article has a "snowball's chance in hell" of making it through a process with a favorable result, the process should, and for all intents and purposes should, be cut short. Hence why the AfD vote only lasted 3 days instead of 7. EDIT: Yes, I am saying KongaDave falls under "non-notable" in the grand scheme of things. Yes, I am saying invoking WP:SNOW was the right thing to do. No, you will NOT get the article back by doing a Deletion Review, because "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT" didn't get the attention that other internet memes (which this would probably be categorized as) got. Deal with it and stop yelling at Wikipedia for following their own policies.
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Post by mohamo on Jan 7, 2007 12:59:36 GMT -5
Too lazy to read the other two pages, but somebody mentioned WP:SNOW as being stupid. WP:SNOW is short for "Snowball's chance in hell", which is a rule that states that if an article has a "snowball's chance in hell" of making it through a process with a favorable result, the process should, and for all intents and purposes should, be cut short. Hence why the AfD vote only lasted 3 days instead of 7. EDIT: Yes, I am saying KongaDave falls under "non-notable" in the grand scheme of things. Yes, I am saying invoking WP:SNOW was the right thing to do. No, you will NOT get the article back by doing a Deletion Review, because "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT" didn't get the attention that other internet memes (which this would probably be categorized as) got. Deal with it and stop yelling at Wikipedia for following their own policies. But it had an equal amount of arguments for keeping and deleting it. It was surely not unanimous that people wanted the article to be deleted. I understand what it means, but this wasn't the type of case where that should have applied to. You do it when it is fully or just about fully unanimous. There was no reason to put that into place. None at all. I'm not 100% sure if the article is notable enough, but it's not the least notable thing ever, and it did have strong arguments to why it may be notable and should be kept. I've seen deletion review overturn a few deletions, so it could work. I won't set it up, but it might be fun for someone else to try.
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Post by Bhester on Jan 7, 2007 13:00:58 GMT -5
Why not question their policies when the policies in place are ignorant and only appeal to the 38 year old virgins living in their mothers' basements that edit this s***?
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Post by kongadave aka Dave Wills on Feb 2, 2007 21:55:50 GMT -5
Hey Who needs wikipedia when you have Wrestlecrap!!!
This place rules!! Wiki well.. They... just aren't still real to me..
DAMMITT!
DW
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Post by eDemento2099 on Feb 3, 2007 2:27:04 GMT -5
What's with the sudden surge in Kongamania?
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Post by Bret Hart Rules on Feb 3, 2007 4:00:13 GMT -5
Anyway, I'll leave you guys to your Wrestlecrap stuff (When's the Canadian Destroyer being inducted as the most-kayfabe breaking finisher in wrestling?). Have a good one. Most likely after the Worm, the People's Elbow and the Van Daminator
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