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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 3, 2007 23:57:23 GMT -5
The saddest part is that if they had a decent writer or if Vince had a few more brain cells this would have become a great storyline. People who say that RVD got what he deserved are wrong. Like I said earlier people still think Hogan and HBK are hollier than thou and they did way worse drugs than RVD did. You are just buying into the lame anti-drug propaganda that say having leeches suck your blood is as disquisting as smoking a joint. You're quite right, they did, but he still deserved what he had, he broke the violation and was pulled over, I could care less about drugs, whether they can kill or not, the guy violated them, all the talent in the world isn't going to have the police overlook that. Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't make it right, plus he should know as he's not in favor with management to watch himself and be more responsible than that.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 3, 2007 23:59:02 GMT -5
People who say that RVD got what he deserved are wrong. Like I said earlier people still think Hogan and HBK are hollier than thou and they did way worse drugs than RVD did. You are just buying into the lame anti-drug propaganda that say having leeches suck your blood is as disquisting as smoking a joint. You're quite right, they did, but he still deserved what he had, he broke the violation and was pulled over, I could care less about drugs, whether they can kill or not, the guy violated them, all the talent in the world isn't going to have the police overlook that. Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't make it right, plus he should know as he's not in favor with management to watch himself and be more responsible than that. He was fined $100. That's about two parking tickets, if even that.
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Post by jfpierce on Feb 4, 2007 0:00:49 GMT -5
As for Shawn, Triple H, and Orton also doing drugs & all that junk about favoritism. If they were arrested for drug charges and endangering the public, I imagine they wouldn't be holding the title long either. Maybe I've got my dates mixed up, but wasn't Ric Flair IC champ when he had his road rage episode and strangled a guy?
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 4, 2007 0:02:09 GMT -5
As for Shawn, Triple H, and Orton also doing drugs & all that junk about favoritism. If they were arrested for drug charges and endangering the public, I imagine they wouldn't be holding the title long either. Maybe I've got my dates mixed up, but wasn't Ric Flair IC champ when he had his road rage episode and strangled a guy? Was he? I can't remember either. I do know that it was made public and he couldn't speak about it, while Edge openly mocked him.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 4, 2007 0:02:30 GMT -5
Maybe. But Flair was acquited too.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Feb 4, 2007 0:03:28 GMT -5
Well theres nothing on WWE.Com about it yet..
So until there is im only taking this News with a Pinch of Salt.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 4, 2007 0:05:46 GMT -5
Being caught and not being caught doesn't make any crap that happened any more or less right or wrong. Just because he was caught with pot doesn't make it any more wrong than anyone else who've done it and not been caught.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 4, 2007 0:07:28 GMT -5
Being caught and not being caught doesn't make any crap that happened any more or less right or wrong. Just because he was caught with pot doesn't make it any more wrong than anyone else who've done it and not been caught. I agree completely. I also disagree with the idea society holds that apologizing makes something go away.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 4, 2007 0:12:14 GMT -5
You're quite right, they did, but he still deserved what he had, he broke the violation and was pulled over, I could care less about drugs, whether they can kill or not, the guy violated them, all the talent in the world isn't going to have the police overlook that. Just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't make it right, plus he should know as he's not in favor with management to watch himself and be more responsible than that. He was fined $100. That's about two parking tickets, if even that. Even so, he got caught and yes if it were anyone else like an Orton or Trips, they'd be pardoned, but RVD as I said should've known better to not do that, at least wait till you're off the road or something, he messed it up.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 4, 2007 0:26:03 GMT -5
Being caught and not being caught doesn't make any crap that happened any more or less right or wrong. Just because he was caught with pot doesn't make it any more wrong than anyone else who've done it and not been caught. I agree completely. I also disagree with the idea society holds that apologizing makes something go away. True. We shouldn't forget it ever happened but we shouldn't handicap him for the rest of his career over this.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 4, 2007 0:32:54 GMT -5
He was fined $100. That's about two parking tickets, if even that. Even so, he got caught and yes if it were anyone else like an Orton or Trips, they'd be pardoned, but RVD as I said should've known better to not do that, at least wait till you're off the road or something, he messed it up. Yes, yes, but please stop saying he "messed up." Is it "messing up" to compile that kind of fine for not picking up after your dog, or double-parking? Stop being such a broken record.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 4, 2007 0:33:56 GMT -5
I agree completely. I also disagree with the idea society holds that apologizing makes something go away. True. We shouldn't forget it ever happened but we shouldn't handicap him for the rest of his career over this. Indeed. What I meant to say is that there's a lot of hypocrisy at times. Being caught doesn't make the act any worse, and neither does not apologizing.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 4, 2007 0:38:18 GMT -5
Even so, he got caught and yes if it were anyone else like an Orton or Trips, they'd be pardoned, but RVD as I said should've known better to not do that, at least wait till you're off the road or something, he messed it up. Yes, yes, but please stop saying he "messed up." Is it "messing up" to compile that kind of fine for not picking up after your dog, or double-parking? Stop being such a broken record. To be fair, everyone in this thread can be put under the "broken record" category. He did mess up, sorry if it bothers you to see that, but he did. He knew he wasn't exactly looked upon well by upper management, so he should've exercised caution.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 4, 2007 0:44:22 GMT -5
Yes, yes, but please stop saying he "messed up." Is it "messing up" to compile that kind of fine for not picking up after your dog, or double-parking? Stop being such a broken record. [glow=red,2,300]To be fair, everyone in this thread can be put under the "broken record" category.[/glow] He did mess up, sorry if it bothers you to see that, but he did. He knew he wasn't exactly looked upon well by upper management, so he should've exercised caution. Truest statement in this thread, most likely.
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Post by Hemmeorrhage on Feb 4, 2007 0:58:21 GMT -5
So I take it mostly people are like OMG Pot is nothing. And most everybody is saying the pot was nothing. but when they are supposed to build 2 brands around you, the last thing you do is fudge it by being a doobie head Yeah..its not like Vince has never relied on Pill poppers to headline Wrestlemania before or anything.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 4, 2007 1:03:07 GMT -5
So I take it mostly people are like OMG Pot is nothing. And most everybody is saying the pot was nothing. but when they are supposed to build 2 brands around you, the last thing you do is fudge it by being a doobie head Yeah..its not like Vince has never relied on Pill poppers to headline Wrestlemania before or anything. You know I think it's funny that some are absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 4, 2007 1:11:11 GMT -5
Yeah..its not like Vince has never relied on Pill poppers to headline Wrestlemania before or anything. You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. You have to take into account that one reason people (me included) are so quick to jump tp Van Dam's defense is that he's a genuinely nice guy. I've met him 4 times, and he's an absolute class act and loves the fans and interacts with them like no other.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 4, 2007 1:12:54 GMT -5
Yeah..its not like Vince has never relied on Pill poppers to headline Wrestlemania before or anything. You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. Don't lump everyone into one category. This thread has had some good conversation with people on all sides giving good and valid points. I'm just saying don't making hasty generalizations. And your point confuses me. Your unhappy that RVD is being given a pardon and that others with no evidence are being given clear passes?
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Post by joeman on Feb 4, 2007 1:15:42 GMT -5
To MichaelMartini, almost all the guys in the WWE probably has done or is still on the juice, maybe even RVD. I really have a hard time believing guys that go 4 days a week ripping thier muscles would regain it by going to the gym and eating powerbars.
That said, getting caught with drugs, including pot is not in any company and in any company you would most likely get fired if they find out about it. Eddie Guerrero was caught with drugs and was fired in 2001, so RVD is lucky that he still has a job in the WWE.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Feb 4, 2007 1:16:22 GMT -5
Oh yeah.... Time for TNA Fan boys to start coming out of the seams again
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