Boku AKA Da Green Guy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 4, 2007 1:16:23 GMT -5
You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. Don't lump everyone into one category. This thread has had some good conversation with people on all sides giving good and valid points. I'm just saying don't making hasty generalizations. And your point confuses me. Your unhappy that RVD is being given a pardon and that others with no evidence are being given clear passes? "Innocent Until Proven Guility." And you're right about generalizations, that was the wrong word to use. My fault there. You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. You have to take into account that one reason people (me included) are so quick to jump tp Van Dam's defense is that he's a genuinely nice guy. I've met him 4 times, and he's an absolute class act and loves the fans and interacts with them like no other. Yeah, I know. It sucks. But he still doesn't have the grounds to complain.
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Feb 4, 2007 1:53:52 GMT -5
Awesome. It's too bad he's been stuck there for the past 6 years. I'd have much rather watched him somewhere else, where he wouldn't have been so underutilized and watered down. Oh, yeah getting both world titles and main eventing...he was really held back. Token title reign aside, you honestly can't compare his work now to his late 90's ECW stuff and say he hasn't been crippled by WWE's "Safe Moves Only" policy. Hell, even when he first arrived in the WWF he was more exciting than he is now. This news is fantastic IMO, as its another step towards a possible Whole F'n Show Vs. New F'n Show IV match.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 4, 2007 1:55:28 GMT -5
Oh, yeah getting both world titles and main eventing...he was really held back. Token title reign aside, you honestly can't compare his work now to his late 90's ECW stuff and say he hasn't been crippled by WWE's "Safe Moves Only" policy. Hell, even when he first arrived in the WWF he was more exciting than he is now. This news is fantastic IMO, as its another step towards a possible Whole F'n Show Vs. New F'n Show IV match. I've been thinking RVD/Lynn also. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 4, 2007 2:24:08 GMT -5
You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. You have to take into account that one reason people (me included) are so quick to jump tp Van Dam's defense is that he's a genuinely nice guy. I've met him 4 times, and he's an absolute class act and loves the fans and interacts with them like no other. So are Hogan, Goldberg, Austin, Triple H and Cena. Yet everybody hates them.
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Garee
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Post by Garee on Feb 4, 2007 2:24:37 GMT -5
He puts on great matches, he should go to TNA where mike work isn't as important, he'll do good there, he'll probably win the title, and wrestle a bunch of guys he used to wrestle in WWE same with Angle and Cage
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Feb 4, 2007 2:33:58 GMT -5
Maybe I've got my dates mixed up, but wasn't Ric Flair IC champ when he had his road rage episode and strangled a guy? Was he? I can't remember either. I do know that it was made public and he couldn't speak about it, while Edge openly mocked him. Yes, Ric Flair was Intercontinental Champion when he got arrested for road rage.
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Post by Ultimate Reality on Feb 4, 2007 2:36:26 GMT -5
Well........ I'm just glad I've never wasted money on the Wrestling Observer Rumorletter, but if RVD ever does go to TNA, I hope they put him in at least one Ultimate X match. I'd love to see RVD vs. Jerry Lynn one more time too. (for the NWA world title)
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 4, 2007 3:08:51 GMT -5
I ain't reading 14 pages, but just to be sure, this is NOT confirmed, right? The news site I usually view has no info and this is not stickied...so I assume.....not true?
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 4, 2007 3:16:50 GMT -5
The original post says "likely"; nothing confirmed yet.
Regardless, if this gives of Van Dam vs. Lynn, The Next Chapter, at long last, then I'm fine with it. I'm guessing RVD is financially sound enough that he can afford to go out and do whatever tickles his fancy.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Feb 4, 2007 3:20:02 GMT -5
Regardless of how badly they try to bury him before his exit, it won't matter. That will only hurt his overness with WWE marks. All the RVD marks will still mark for him regardless, and when he shows up in TNA he'll give them a great boost. Being jobbed on WWE TV constantly didn't exactly make Christian less of a hot commodity. I hope you're right, and look forward to seeing RVD wrestle in a federation that won't force him to hold back on his acrobatic talent. TNA can only grow stronger if that's where RVD heads off to.
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HRH The KING
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Post by HRH The KING on Feb 4, 2007 3:20:47 GMT -5
LOL
RVD is so laid back I can just imagine him handing in a piece of paper to WWE management saying "Hey...dudes....this just ain't my scene, I gotta split, later!"
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 4, 2007 3:25:49 GMT -5
I ain't reading 14 pages, but just to be sure, this is NOT confirmed, right? The news site I usually view has no info and this is not stickied...so I assume.....not true? The person says it was in this weeks Observer. I've chatted with other subscibers, and they haven't gotten theirs yet. The last Observer said that he's "about as good as gone (to TNA)". If it was confirmed, it would be EVERYWHERE now. If it's true, you'll see in the morning (or about six hours from now for those not in America) when other people get their Observer copies.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 4, 2007 3:58:43 GMT -5
Yeah. I just hope RVD does what's best for his career and unfortunately, I don't think WWE is what's best for him.
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Feb 4, 2007 4:49:11 GMT -5
LOL RVD is so laid back I can just imagine him handing in a piece of paper to WWE management saying "Hey...dudes....this just ain't my scene, I gotta split, later!" I hope theres another PCS challenge and he's on it.
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Post by I Got Heat on Feb 4, 2007 6:59:51 GMT -5
Another funny thing about the pot bust is that 99% of the mainstream media don't give a crap about wrestling and didn't even report it. Not to mention Vince spends all his nights dreaming up ways to get "WWE" in the press and at least RVD almost got him some press.
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 4, 2007 10:13:41 GMT -5
You know I think it's funny that everyone is absolving RVD from being caught physically with drugs. Yet when they drop other names with no real proof, and nobody's angry. I'm not saying they're innocent but it's just funny. You have to take into account that one reason people (me included) are so quick to jump tp Van Dam's defense is that he's a genuinely nice guy. I've met him 4 times, and he's an absolute class act and loves the fans and interacts with them like no other. There's no doubt about that, he is a class act, I've heard nothing but good things on autograph sessions and when he had his comic book store, but still that doesn't mean you could go around and do as you please. Doesn't work that way. RVD has known that management (also Trips) doesn't like him, so what better way to show them that you should have put the belt on him sooner, by keeping out of trouble as it would make things worse for him, whereas someone like a Flair or Trips could get off as they are in WWE's favor.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 4, 2007 10:28:38 GMT -5
WWE Management lately seems so clueless lately that they make WCW backstage politics look great. It's sad that we seem to be heading to the same crap that happened in 1993.
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 4, 2007 10:34:36 GMT -5
You have to take into account that one reason people (me included) are so quick to jump tp Van Dam's defense is that he's a genuinely nice guy. I've met him 4 times, and he's an absolute class act and loves the fans and interacts with them like no other. There's no doubt about that, he is a class act, I've heard nothing but good things on autograph sessions and when he had his comic book store, but still that doesn't mean you could go around and do as you please. Doesn't work that way. RVD has known that management (also Trips) doesn't like him, so what better way to show them that you should have put the belt on him sooner, by keeping out of trouble as it would make things worse for him, whereas someone like a Flair or Trips could get off as they are in WWE's favor. You'll notice though that I've never defended him getting busted with weed. It's illegal, there's no getting around that. I just don't like how the guy makes a mistake, as we all can from time to time, and people act as though he murdered someone.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 4, 2007 10:38:35 GMT -5
There's no doubt about that, he is a class act, I've heard nothing but good things on autograph sessions and when he had his comic book store, but still that doesn't mean you could go around and do as you please. Doesn't work that way. RVD has known that management (also Trips) doesn't like him, so what better way to show them that you should have put the belt on him sooner, by keeping out of trouble as it would make things worse for him, whereas someone like a Flair or Trips could get off as they are in WWE's favor. You'll notice though that I've never defended him getting busted with weed. It's illegal, there's no getting around that. I just don't like how the guy makes a mistake, as we all can from time to time, and people act as though he murdered someone. You're right, we all make mistakes, but I think if he wasn't WWE Champ when he got pulled over, it would have been forgotten by now. Since it was instrumental in his title loss, that's why people are always going to be talking about it.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 4, 2007 23:10:13 GMT -5
I bet you ANYTHING CM Punks in the "doghouse" and has an "attitude" problem cause he didnt say "hey" to Holly or didnt let JBL pull some dumbass prank on him or some f***ing bullshit like that
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