HRH The KING
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS
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Post by HRH The KING on Feb 3, 2007 19:26:59 GMT -5
Bye Rob.
Go to TNA.
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MolotovMocktail
Grimlock
Home of the 5-time, 5-time, 5-time, 5-time 5-time Super Bowl Champion 49ers-and Wrestlemania 31
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 3, 2007 19:28:35 GMT -5
While I think he would do better in TNA, which would not only help him but WWE (as I explained somewhere else), it would be kind of sad to see him leave on bad terms. I don't want another case of a very talented wrestler becoming bitter at Vince and saying how he hated WWE.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 3, 2007 19:31:31 GMT -5
I'm just trying not to jump to anything. I don't have a subscription and I wanted to ask others. Better safe than sorry in this situation. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound snarky. Obviously, you have to ask one or two other people to make sure. No offense but I'd like another person to confirm it. It's not being reported anywhere else and it's HUGE NEWS if it's true. Something this big would have all the sites buzzing. Did this WON issue just come out today?
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 19:33:15 GMT -5
I don't want another case of a very talented wrestler becoming bitter at Vince and saying how he hated WWE. RVD on impact: TNA is the place I want to be! Vince never ever gave me a chance as a main eventer! Except that time he gave me both world titles and I got demoted for being busted for drugs...but that doesn't count.
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 19:36:28 GMT -5
Oh, yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound snarky. Obviously, you have to ask one or two other people to make sure. No offense but I'd like another person to confirm it. It's not being reported anywhere else and it's HUGE NEWS if it's true. Something this big would have all the sites buzzing. Did this WON issue just come out today? Honestly, is it HUGE NEWS? Most figured he was leaving and, anyway, he's not gone yet. It's not like he's leaving right this second. The news sites don't usually pick this stuff up till saturday or sunday.
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Post by Smokey McTrees on Feb 3, 2007 19:44:08 GMT -5
I can't believe people are still clinging to this as a reason to crap on Van Dam. He screwed up 6 months ago, and payed for it. He's the most over guy on the waxing brand, let it go already. They didn't have to give him the title back, but clean jobbing to Test, Holly, and Lashley for no apparent reason? Plus it makes me laugh that people act like this is the worst thing some wrestler has ever done. Getting caught with pot. You have to look the wider context: he'd spent years complain and/or rude femaleing about how politics were holding him back, blaming HHH and others. Then, he gets his chance and waxs up entirely by himself. Getting himself and WWE tons of bad press. Then he goes on his website and jokes about it (sure, rob you learned your lesson) . If he hadn't been world champion, it's something that could have been easily forgotten. But he was and. as such, should've known better. It's the guy freakin' gimmick, fer gawd's sakes!! It was almost providence. This was meant to happen...
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Ragnal
Game Genie
Yanno what they say: All toasters toast El Dandy
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Post by Ragnal on Feb 3, 2007 19:45:42 GMT -5
Eh, from my point of view RVD is one of my favorite wrestlers who was one half of one of my favorite matches of all time (RVD vs Jerry Lyn Hardcore Heaven '99) and WWE has screwed him. Forget about the whole pot deal, I'm talking about before that. They didn't let him wrestle the way that made him famous, they didn't let him act the way that made him famous. The only reason he ever got close to a world title is because they wanted to put ECW over, and whether they liked it or not, he was the man. He was always schedualed to be a short term champ and everyone knew the belt was going back to Cena as soon as ECdub was established. RVD just isn't a "WWE" wrestler. I, for one, am super excited to see him back in an environment where he can actually work to his strengths rather than just get held down because he doesn't fit into a certain pre-determined mold. PS: LOL@all the marks who are angry he got busted with pot. You act like he broke into your house, slapped your mom, crapped in your cereal and humped your girl. Seriously, get over it. You, sir, win the internet for the PS. Seriously, heed this FTWer's advice.
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Boku AKA Da Green Guy
El Dandy
WC's Resident Pirate Otaku and Official Scapegoat
Always and Forever, Hurricane.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 3, 2007 19:49:53 GMT -5
Eh, from my point of view RVD is one of my favorite wrestlers who was one half of one of my favorite matches of all time (RVD vs Jerry Lyn Hardcore Heaven '99) and WWE has screwed him. Forget about the whole pot deal, I'm talking about before that. They didn't let him wrestle the way that made him famous, they didn't let him act the way that made him famous. The only reason he ever got close to a world title is because they wanted to put ECW over, and whether they liked it or not, he was the man. He was always schedualed to be a short term champ and everyone knew the belt was going back to Cena as soon as ECdub was established. RVD just isn't a "WWE" wrestler. I, for one, am super excited to see him back in an environment where he can actually work to his strengths rather than just get held down because he doesn't fit into a certain pre-determined mold. PS: LOL@all the marks who are angry he got busted with pot. You act like he broke into your house, slapped your mom, crapped in your cereal and humped your girl. Seriously, get over it. You, sir, win the internet for the PS. Seriously, heed this FTWer's advice. Or I could not, because it's just one view of a bigger picture.
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MetalGearDizzle
Samurai Cop
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Post by MetalGearDizzle on Feb 3, 2007 19:53:27 GMT -5
IF true then i do hope he goes to TNA because they will let him be his true self (In ring). In fact Sabu was better in TNA as well. Sabu didn't really get a chance to shine in TNA IMO. The thing I remember most is him jobbing to Samoa Joe and his feud with Abyss. Neither were that memorable. Sabu vs Abyss, Barbwire match. MOTY in my opinion.
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MichaelRBoh
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Post by MichaelRBoh on Feb 3, 2007 19:56:04 GMT -5
Oh, yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound snarky. Obviously, you have to ask one or two other people to make sure. No offense but I'd like another person to confirm it. It's not being reported anywhere else and it's HUGE NEWS if it's true. Something this big would have all the sites buzzing. Did this WON issue just come out today? i'll be able to confirm it when it comes in the mail, we always get it a couple days late here in nola since katrina.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 3, 2007 20:08:43 GMT -5
He might very well be, but he didn't get pulled over by the police while he is WWE Champ like RVD did last year. 'Roids will kill you quicker than weed will, though. That's what I have a problem with. Nobody in the history of anything has ever OD'd on weed. But steroids destroy your heart and kill you before you hit your 50's. (not all the time ~cough*HulkHogan*cough~, but a lot of the time ~cough*EddyGuerreroRickRude*cough~) Yeah. Weed's not that big a deal. It's not even as bad for you as booze is and if the pharmacutical business wasn't making billions off their zolofts and what not, it would be legal. Sure it's embarrassing for your champ to get caught with it while you're in the middle of a wellness policy and he shouldn've been punished accordingly but that was last year and they stil haven't done anything of note with RVD, a guy who should be at the top of the RAW card right now. Vince's has never been too concerned with his wrestlers using illegal substances in the past. Through the eighties they were all on roids and coked up. I know Iron Sheik and Duggan were caught with it, we all know about Jake, and Hogan, with those rambling outlandish promos, had to have been snorting. To this day, in spite of the 80's greats dying in their 40s, all three champs are roid monsters. So to say his minor pot bust is what buried RVD is asinine.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 3, 2007 20:12:59 GMT -5
No way RVD would be at the top of the Raw card, with Trips and Shawn there. Remember at Vengeance when he was WWE Champ, his match was like 3rd or 4th to last to a VERY subpar and laughable main event in DX vs. Spirit Squad pt.1 out of 23453534.
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Post by balmudo on Feb 3, 2007 20:14:45 GMT -5
Um... kick, kick, rolling thunder, kick a chair into a guy's face, frog splash. Same thing he always does. Thats how the WWE is though. Outside of the punch/ kick standards, each wrestler has their "5 moves of doom" and they don't really stray from that.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 3, 2007 20:20:06 GMT -5
No way RVD would be at the top of the Raw card, with Trips and Shawn there. Remember at Vengeance when he was WWE Champ, his match was like 3rd or 4th to last to a VERY subpar and laughable main event in DX vs. Spirit Squad pt.1 out of 23453534. I know he wouldn't, I was just saying he should be.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 3, 2007 20:22:03 GMT -5
Um... kick, kick, rolling thunder, kick a chair into a guy's face, frog splash. Same thing he always does. Thats how the WWE is though. Outside of the punch/ kick standards, each wrestler has their "5 moves of doom" and they don't really stray from that. No, that's pretty much his ECW routine, too, with a few crowd dives and extra flips thrown in. Jerry Lynn carried him in those five star matches.
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Post by kitsunestar on Feb 3, 2007 20:34:18 GMT -5
He's not that great. So he smokes pot. Big Freakin' Deal. RVD is a spot monkey, and compared to the new generation of teenage/20-21 year old spot monkeys, not even close.
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Lt. Palumbo
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Feb 3, 2007 20:34:49 GMT -5
we still haven't seen RVD vs Michaels, which is a match I'm dying for. They had a title match on Raw after Michaels won the gold in the elimination chamber. I'd have liked to have seen a feud though
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Feb 3, 2007 20:39:34 GMT -5
we still haven't seen RVD vs Michaels, which is a match I'm dying for. They had a title match on Raw after Michaels won the gold in the elimination chamber. I'd have liked to have seen a feud though I remember it, wasn't as great as I thought it'd be, and of course Trips interfered causing the DQ finish.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 3, 2007 20:40:34 GMT -5
Awesome. It's too bad he's been stuck there for the past 6 years. I'd have much rather watched him somewhere else, where he wouldn't have been so underutilized and watered down. Oh, yeah getting both world titles and main eventing...he was really held back. The person you quoted did not say "held back."
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Post by I Got Heat on Feb 3, 2007 20:52:53 GMT -5
As usual it looks like WWE marks have gone into a panic. Don't worry you'll have plenty of time to bury him on the 'net before he's officially gone. He can't draw money like our guy Daniel Rodimer can! lol
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