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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 3, 2007 21:53:05 GMT -5
So, is he quitting or not? I'm not digging through this thread to find out. He can go and stay gone for all I care, but ... sucka has gotta know. We don't know. The original poster post a vague claim that RVD was about to quit. And, the rest of the thread has been people arguing about whether or not RVD should be getting the treatment he's getting. He claimed a few pages back to me that it was in this weeks Observer. I asked around and other people haven't gotten this weeks Observer yet to claim it. (He must have got it really quickly or is lying) Last weeks' WON said that he was basically out the door. I'm reserving judgement until another person can support it.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 3, 2007 21:55:22 GMT -5
The saddest part is that if they had a decent writer or if Vince had a few more brain cells this would have become a great storyline. If They would have done what ECW did when RVD got caught with pot there. Turn it into a positive. examples, "RVD:420", "I just Smoked Your ass!". It could have been great and a feud with Punk slamming RVD for his arrest would have been amazing. It would have turn Punk, which is when he's at his best and really rally people around RVD and he would have become the top face in the WWE. But rather than that exploiting death, Necrophilia, mocking employees, HYGGGS(Hot Young Girl and Geezer Guy Sex!), oh and offending religious people are much more important than pushing an individual while he made a mistake is very talented instead of treating him like he sodomized somebody. People who say that RVD got what he deserved are wrong. Like I said earlier people still think Hogan and HBK are hollier than thou and they did way worse drugs than RVD did. You are just buying into the lame anti-drug propaganda that say having leeches suck your blood is as disquisting as smoking a joint.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 3, 2007 21:56:48 GMT -5
The saddest part is that if they had a decent writer or if Vince had a few more brain cells this would have become a great storyline. They done what ECW did when RVD got caught with pot there. Turn it into a positive. examples, "RVD:420", "I just Smoked Your ass!". But rather than that exploiting death, Necrophilia, mocking employees, HYGGGS(Hot Young Girl and Geezer Guy Sex!), oh and offending religious people are much more important than pushing an individual while he made a mistake is very talented instead of treating him like he sodomized somebody. People who say that RVD got what he deserved are wrong. Like I said earlier people still think Hogan and HBK are hollier than thou and they did way worse drugs than RVD did. You are just buying into the lame anti-drug propaganda that say having leeches suck your blood is as disquisting as smoking a joint. And those ad campaigns also tell me that aliens will take my girlfriend and my dog will run away if I smoke pot too...so their already giving me weird messages.
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Post by I Got Heat on Feb 3, 2007 22:00:57 GMT -5
Kudos to the guy who made the hilarious summary of the thread. I've never seen it done quite like that. Cheers bro.
RVD leaving seems like a foregone conclusion. I don't know the guy personally, but from every interview he has done he always stresses that he will not let himself be in this type of situation for long. I would be very, very surprised to hear he has decided to stay for a few more years to do more jobs for Lashley. Even Lance Storm (who a lot of us love) has said based on the finish of his last TV match it looks like they're booking him in such a way that makes it appear he told them he was leaving.
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Post by Banned Member on Feb 3, 2007 22:03:47 GMT -5
You know, that might be a better place for him than TNA. I would like to see that a lot. Now that I'm all for. Then I won't have to watch his stale ass. Don't let him ruin TNA. QFT
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Feb 3, 2007 22:05:11 GMT -5
The saddest part is that if they had a decent writer or if Vince had a few more brain cells this would have become a great storyline. If They would have done what ECW did when RVD got caught with pot there. Turn it into a positive. examples, "RVD:420", "I just Smoked Your ass!". It could have been great and a feud with Punk slamming RVD for his arrest would have been amazing. It would have turn Punk, which is when he's at his best and really rally people around RVD and he would have become the top face in the WWE. But rather than that exploiting death, Necrophilia, mocking employees, HYGGGS(Hot Young Girl and Geezer Guy Sex!), oh and offending religious people are much more important than pushing an individual while he made a mistake is very talented instead of treating him like he sodomized somebody. People who say that RVD got what he deserved are wrong. Like I said earlier people still think Hogan and HBK are hollier than thou and they did way worse drugs than RVD did. You are just buying into the lame anti-drug propaganda that say having leeches suck your blood is as disquisting as smoking a joint. Great post! I'm seriously "Straight Edge" and I don't give a crap what RVD is into. I also hate this whole other wrestlers are hollier than RVD crap when wrestling is a business where wrestlers cheat on their wives and pretty much everyones on drugs. Yeah RVD got caught but its not like the public views wrestling as a sqeaky clean industry anyway.
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Post by I Got Heat on Feb 3, 2007 22:12:39 GMT -5
Mel Gibson did a lot worse and it made EVERY news outlet and it's pretty much done with now. RVD's punishment is going on too long for what he did.
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 22:20:10 GMT -5
We don't know. The original poster post a vague claim that RVD was about to quit. And, the rest of the thread has been people arguing about whether or not RVD should be getting the treatment he's getting. He claimed a few pages back to me that it was in this weeks Observer. I asked around and other people haven't gotten this weeks Observer yet to claim it. (He must have got it really quickly or is lying) Last weeks' WON said that he was basically out the door. I'm reserving judgement until another person can support it. While I'm sure no offence is intended, I don't particularly like being accused of lying and I think I've proved myself to be a reliable poster as far as news is concerned in the past. I understand your doubtful but you seem a little too eager to dismiss this piece when you admit you have no real proof either way (except the fact I supposedy got it "really quickly" based on a conversation you had with one or two subscribers, who, of course, represent everyone)
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Post by Dynamic Dude Johnny on Feb 3, 2007 22:22:46 GMT -5
will RVD be put on TNA under a new name due to copyrights?
No , RVD has the rights to the RVD name and Vince never could claim them. This is the reason why, RVD created the RVD Character/name while working in Florida independetns along time ago, and used it while wrestling in many independents around the country. He also used it when he wresteled in Japan(another likley place to returm to if this rumor is true).And of course he used it in ECW. Vince did not make him change his name upon entering the WWE, thus he let RVD use a creation of his own while wrestling in the WWE and can not lay claim to that creation. This is the same reason people like Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan ect. could use there name in various companies, there act/name was pre-existing before wrestling for a large company(be it WWE or WCW,when it was existing as a private company that is). The large company(the WWE in this case) can give you a new name for use when there only, but if the company lets you use your pre-existing name when working for them, once you leave that company they cannot lay claim to your name. This is why Ken Anderson became Ken Kennedy in the WWE, and Monty Brown is Marquis Von Corin in the WWE.
Some people ask why the Dudleys lost there name then. Because the Dudley brother name was created for them by Raven upon there entry in to ECW. Paul Heyman gave them legal rights to the name upon exiting ECW(Heyman does not agree with the selling your mane away concept). The Dudleys then went to the WWE(and this is where they made there mistake)without copy writing there name. If they would have The WWE could not have laid claim to that name. But since they entered the WWE wrestled under a name they did not create and only used in one teritory(ECW) and signed contracts to wrestle in the WWE under that name, and did not have a copywright to the name they left themselves unprotected. The WWE then bought the cprywright to the Dudley Boy Name and it becme WWE property.
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Post by Haulk on Feb 3, 2007 22:38:12 GMT -5
Tna will be 4:20 soon! notify the Florida State Troopers.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 3, 2007 22:40:37 GMT -5
Tna will be 4:20 soon! notify the Florida State Troopers. That could get RVD life in prision!
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 22:43:31 GMT -5
Mel Gibson did a lot worse and it made EVERY news outlet and it's pretty much done with now. RVD's punishment is going on too long for what he did. SMARKS CAUSE ALL THE WARS! Seriously, it wasn't just the drugs thing. Rob refused to go to Iraq as well. And, yeah, that was his right to decide not to go, but it didn't do him any favours with Vince.
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Post by WWHHHD on Feb 3, 2007 23:10:36 GMT -5
ABOUT TIME!!!! NA NA NA NA.... NA NA NA NA..... HEY HEY HEY.... GOODBYE
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 3, 2007 23:23:03 GMT -5
So I take it mostly people are like
OMG Pot is nothing.
And most everybody is saying the pot was nothing.
but when they are supposed to build 2 brands around you, the last thing you do is fudge it by being a doobie head
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 3, 2007 23:30:16 GMT -5
Yeah, way to put words in someone's mouth. I never said he was held back. I said underutilized and watered down. Let's break this down. 1) Underutilized: Despite being one of the most over wrestlers on the roster, RVD spent the better parts of 2003 and 2004 shuffling around in the midcard and in makeshift tag teams, never getting into any fueds that someone could care about. His only money fued would have been Kane, but they squashed him out of it so that Shane McMahon could steal the fued with Kane from him. Spending two straight years doing nothing in the midcard and being a transitional Intercontinental champion to job to Randy Orton, to me, says underutilized. And when he finally did get the chance he'd been waiting for he completely blew it by getting caught with drugs. Maybe Vince was right to be hesitant to put the title on him. It's a different company with different ways of doing things. He was frequnetly hurting people in 2001 (Kurt Angle got the worst of it) it was causing such a fuss with guys in the back, something had to be done. And his style was toned down. He hurt people in what busting them open? RVD was just stiff because they all he knew. He not the only guy that was hurting people at the time.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 3, 2007 23:31:47 GMT -5
So I take it mostly people are like OMG Pot is nothing. And most everybody is saying the pot was nothing. but when they are supposed to build 2 brands around you, the last thing you do is fudge it by being a doobie head Man, giving the belt to a pothead(RVD) is better than to a heroin-cokehead(HBK 1996). So don't get all elitest saying how pot is so bad wheres it has shown to be non dangerous where steriods, coke, and heroin have.
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 23:35:07 GMT -5
And when he finally did get the chance he'd been waiting for he completely blew it by getting caught with drugs. Maybe Vince was right to be hesitant to put the title on him. It's a different company with different ways of doing things. He was frequnetly hurting people in 2001 (Kurt Angle got the worst of it) it was causing such a fuss with guys in the back, something had to be done. And his style was toned down. He hurt people in what busting them open? RVD was just stiff because they all he knew. He not the only guy that was hurting people at the time. Within months of his debut, he was busting people open on a regular basis (Austin,Angle, Booker and some others). Might not sound much to you or me, but it's not really the norm for wwe. I do remember Karen Angle complaining about it on her web blog once.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 23:36:02 GMT -5
He can be another WWE castoff that can wait in the ever increasing main event line in TNA featuring WWE castoffs.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 3, 2007 23:36:37 GMT -5
As ordered, I'm done with insults... Even though, I wasn't the first one that pulled the trigger.
Quite simply, my view:
I mark for RVD.
He was slightly misused.
He finally got his chance, after gaining the trust of the office. And I loved it.
He smoked it away by being arrested. He blew his big chance and lost the trust he had earned.
Therefore, I feel he has no excuse to complain when others like Adrian Adonis and Triple H did much less and got harsher punishments.
I will probably watch TNA for his debut (should it actually come), but turn it off the second that the idiot complains about Double Double E. Just like the "underused, mistreated" Kurt Angle (who I still mark for).
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As for Shawn, Triple H, and Orton also doing drugs & all that junk about favoritism. If they were arrested for drug charges and endangering the public, I imagine they wouldn't be holding the title long either.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2007 23:38:23 GMT -5
He busted HHH's voicebox while we're on the subject.
Ah well, we'll see if this is true, I'm good either way. I like him,though he's not among my top favorites, so if he stays gravy, and if he goes to TNA equally gravy
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