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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 5, 2007 23:57:46 GMT -5
I mentioned this on another thread about this subject, but I thought I'd mention it here, too. When Flair said that he sometimes didn't know who he was, did the word "senile" pop into anyone else's head? It did for me. Senile? He didn't mean that he didn't KNOW who he was ... ... he was talking as though he's a shadow of his former self, not the same man that won however many world titles. He's right in some regards, and yet he's still Ric Flair, and he wants to prove that to himself. Yet he can't, because other guys who aren't a tenth as driven as himself are given opportunities left and right because they're younger. I think that's where they're going with this.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 5, 2007 23:59:36 GMT -5
Best promo so far this year.
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Post by Hellsing920 on Feb 6, 2007 0:00:24 GMT -5
I knew what Flair meant. I was just cracking a joke.
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Post by wwerules60 on Feb 6, 2007 0:07:21 GMT -5
They are going back to those strange worked shoot promos. Hopefully we can get a Carlito turn where he turns into a vicious heel
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 0:08:46 GMT -5
They are going back to those strange worked shoot promos. Hopefully we can get a Carlito turn where he turns into a vicious heel A vicious heel who spits apples and has hair like a clown?
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 6, 2007 0:12:20 GMT -5
Carlito being a heel again? Now that's cool! Modified Butterly Suplex
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 6, 2007 0:12:59 GMT -5
The highlight of the night for me. I actually was hoping for Flair to win the match with Hardy, but if they handle this right, this can end up being far more interesting.
I've never stopped saying it, but Flair is the man.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 0:13:05 GMT -5
People sure like Carlito. Flair cuts one of the best promos of the past seven years and everyone is going 'WOW I HOPE CARLITO GETS A PUSH!' I don't get it.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 6, 2007 0:16:31 GMT -5
People sure like Carlito. Flair cuts one of the best promos of the past seven years and everyone is going 'WOW I HOPE CARLITO GETS A PUSH!' I don't get it. Yeah, but Flair is old, and Carlito is the future I maintain, I want A Flair For the Gold, one last time.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Feb 6, 2007 0:17:27 GMT -5
People sure like Carlito. Flair cuts one of the best promos of the past seven years and everyone is going 'WOW I HOPE CARLITO GETS A PUSH!' I don't get it. Well I don't get the appeal of watching golf but people do. I don't get how that gets more ratings and media coverage than hockey but it does. There are just somethings we don't get and are better left alone than trying to convince people otherwise online.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 6, 2007 0:19:31 GMT -5
Because I would rather see younger stars get pushed than older washed up stars. I mean Carlito has to get his act together because he was all the talent to be a star, although he has to stop all the spingboard crap that not really him. Oh and I've seen this Ric before and I like it but it will only be good if it gets Carlito over thats all.
WWE needs to build up they're talent since alot of them are getting up there in agre and rangre from they're late 30's to they're 40's so thats no good, that why I want people like Orton, Carlito, Punk, MVP and Kennedy get pushes.
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Post by Skeleton Crew on Feb 6, 2007 0:26:31 GMT -5
People sure like Carlito. Flair cuts one of the best promos of the past seven years and everyone is going 'WOW I HOPE CARLITO GETS A PUSH!' I don't get it. Flair had the best promo of the night by far! I hope this feud ends on Raw. and Flair gets a better worker that is badly motivated to wrestle at wrestlemania. I hope Carlito is wished well on his future endevours and gets his job back with crusty the clown or american Idol. Flair should do the Flair for the Gold interviews again. he is still the best mic guy going today.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 6, 2007 0:39:24 GMT -5
You know who I like to see pushed? Whoever entertains me. Regardles of their age, or "workrate", or whatever. Flair entertains me. Carlito doesn't. Therefore, I'd rather see Flair.
If they get some younger guys that entertain me, then I'm all for pushing them. But they haven't done that. Deuce and Domino are about the only new thing that I like, but I admit I'm a '50s/greaser mark.
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Post by The Line on Feb 6, 2007 0:45:41 GMT -5
The thing is, the promo doesn't make much sense on its own. You HAVE to watch his promo with Maria earlier in the night. He said things like "His passion for Wrestling grows every day" which is a big deal for someone like him, and that if he won, he'd get an IC title shot at WM. He lost the match, so he doesn't get the shot. That probably makes him mad. But he isn't gonna take it laying down. He's gonna earn his spot.
Then he sees some guy like Carlito, who really doesn't care much about wrestling, who didn't have a match, and would rather just mack on the diva's, leaving before the show was even over. He wast thinking about himself rather than the biz. That set Flair off.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 0:49:54 GMT -5
It's just ... I pride myself on finding positive aspects of all things.
I can usually understand why people like things that I don't. In wrestling, a lot of people like John Cena. I get that. I get the love for Boogeyman, for Bobby Lashley even.
Carlito is a complete mystery to me. He isn't good looking, doesn't have an impressive physique ... what he does in the ring, mostly springboard manuvers and the like, I can see done a lot better by pretty much anyone else who does it on a regular basis. Even Sabu, as broken down as he is, does it better than Carlito.
He just strikes me as very, very lazy.
Is it the accent? That he talks in third person? In that case, I can understand why people would find that fun - I like Armando A. Estrada for the same reasons. But that can't be the ONLY REASON why he's popular.
Is it the apple spitting gimmick? I find it disgusting, but again, is that it?
I'm not calling out anyone who likes him ... I'm just perplexed when it comes to his popularity.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 6, 2007 0:50:25 GMT -5
The thing is, the promo doesn't make much sense on its own. You HAVE to watch his promo with Maria earlier in the night. He said things like "His passion for Wrestling grows every day" which is a big deal for someone like him, and that if he won, he'd get an IC title shot at WM. He lost the match, so he doesn't get the shot. That probably makes him mad. But he isn't gonna take it laying down. He's gonna earn his spot. Then he sees some guy like Carlito, who really doesn't care much about wrestling, who didn't have a match, and would rather just mack on the diva's, leaving before the show was even over. He wast thinking about himself rather than the biz. That set Flair off. Gotta correct you on something. Carlito did have a match (a six man tag match where he and Cryme Tyme fought Masters & The Worlds Greatest Tag Team). He was pinned by Haas.
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Post by The Line on Feb 6, 2007 0:51:19 GMT -5
The thing is, the promo doesn't make much sense on its own. You HAVE to watch his promo with Maria earlier in the night. He said things like "His passion for Wrestling grows every day" which is a big deal for someone like him, and that if he won, he'd get an IC title shot at WM. He lost the match, so he doesn't get the shot. That probably makes him mad. But he isn't gonna take it laying down. He's gonna earn his spot. Then he sees some guy like Carlito, who really doesn't care much about wrestling, who didn't have a match, and would rather just mack on the diva's, leaving before the show was even over. He wast thinking about himself rather than the biz. That set Flair off. Gotta correct you on something. Carlito did have a match (a six man tag match where he and Cryme Tyme fought Masters & The Worlds Greatest Tag Team). He was pinned by Haas. Damn. I knew I'd be wrong somewhere. How could I forget?
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 6, 2007 0:53:20 GMT -5
I forgot Flair is god and whatever he says has merit. Oh and Triple H has to always main event and bury talent. Taker should never be beaten and should have 50 more title reigns and reform BOD. Oh and HBK should have a million reigns even though he can't draw worth shit! Thanks for reminding me.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 0:54:28 GMT -5
Gotta correct you on something. Carlito did have a match (a six man tag match where he and Cryme Tyme fought Masters & The Worlds Greatest Tag Team). He was pinned by Haas. Damn. I knew I'd be wrong somewhere. How could I forget? Yeah, he was annoyed because Carlito didn't even seem to care that he lost.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 6, 2007 1:00:58 GMT -5
I forgot Flair is god and whatever he says has merit. Oh and Triple H has to always main event and bury talent. Taker should never be beaten and should have 50 more title reigns and reform BOD. Oh and HBK should have a million reigns even though he can't draw worth crap! Thanks for reminding me. Just curious, what brought this on?
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