The Line
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Post by The Line on Feb 6, 2007 1:05:40 GMT -5
Damn. I knew I'd be wrong somewhere. How could I forget? Yeah, he was annoyed because Carlito didn't even seem to care that he lost. thats what I SHOULD have said.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 6, 2007 1:10:43 GMT -5
you people are looking at this all wrong. Flair and Carlito aren't going to have a match at Wrestlemania. Flair and Carlos Colon will have a match at Wrestlemania instead
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wwerules60
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Post by wwerules60 on Feb 6, 2007 1:10:55 GMT -5
It's just ... I pride myself on finding positive aspects of all things. I can usually understand why people like things that I don't. In wrestling, a lot of people like John Cena. I get that. I get the love for Boogeyman, for Bobby Lashley even. Carlito is a complete mystery to me. He isn't good looking, doesn't have an impressive physique ... what he does in the ring, mostly springboard manuvers and the like, I can see done a lot better by pretty much anyone else who does it on a regular basis. Even Sabu, as broken down as he is, does it better than Carlito. He just strikes me as very, very lazy. Is it the accent? That he talks in third person? In that case, I can understand why people would find that fun - I like Armando A. Estrada for the same reasons. But that can't be the ONLY REASON why he's popular. Is it the apple spitting gimmick? I find it disgusting, but again, is that it? I'm not calling out anyone who likes him ... I'm just perplexed when it comes to his popularity. I think that was kind of what Flair's promo was getting at. Carlito seems lazy and he shouldn't be while guys like Flair are still going all out. It was a semi shoot. I also think this could get Carlito's character going and he could become interesting. And I think people like him because he has tremendous potential to become great, but he just hasn't done it yet.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 6, 2007 1:16:24 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made.
A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem.
I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 1:17:44 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made. A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem. I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion. I can understand that you want to push a new generation, but shouldn't the members of the new generation be good, at least? I'm 21, so should I be WWE Champion because I'm young? It's youth AND ability, and all Carlito has shown me is youth.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 6, 2007 1:24:44 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made. A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem. I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion. I can understand that you want to push a new generation, but shouldn't the members of the new generation be good, at least? I'm 21, so should I be WWE Champion because I'm young? It's youth AND ability, and all Carlito has shown me is youth. That is very true but Carlito does have talent. Watch the Orton-Carlito match at Unforgiven. Plus he is much better as a heel. They never should have moved him to RAW he was much better on Smackdown. His first feud with Cena was very good and he didn't do the springboard crap. I think management told him to do that. The thing is I feel the crative really neutered his gimmick and that made him not care as much. Really he needs to get that edge back and a feud with Flair will help. Also Carlito does not have size and thats all people care about. The sad thing is I feel people like Lashley will get more reigns than the more talented wrestlers on the roster.
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Post by Smokey McTrees on Feb 6, 2007 1:25:01 GMT -5
I forgot Flair is god and whatever he says has merit. Oh and Triple H has to always main event and bury talent. Taker should never be beaten and should have 50 more title reigns and reform BOD. Oh and HBK should have a million reigns even though he can't draw worth crap! Thanks for reminding me. I agree with Flair part. That is all.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 1:26:49 GMT -5
That is very true but Carlito does have talent. Watch the Orton-Carlito match at Unforgiven. Plus he is much better as a heel. They never should have moved him to RAW he was much better on Smackdown. His first feud with Cena was very good and he didn't do the springboard crap. I think management told him to do that. The thing is I feel the crative really neutered his gimmick and that made him not care as much. Really he needs to get that edge back and a feud with Flair will help. Also Carlito does not have size and thats all people care about. The sad thing is I feel people like Lashley will get more reigns than the more talented wrestlers on the roster. I suppose I should be more fair. I had given up on Chris Masters, and he ended up becoming a pretty solid performer in time. It's really all about motivation. Maybe this will be a catalyst for that motivation in Carlito. Until that time, I'll continue hating his guts, though.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 6, 2007 1:39:01 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made. A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem. I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion. I understand what you're saying, and agree to an extent. The "old guard" isn't going to be there forever and they don't want to be caught with no one established as major players when they aren't. But again, for me, it's about being entertained. And if the young guys aren't cutting it, I'm not going to be watching them. Shelton Benjamin entertains me. I would have no problem with him getting pushed. Carlito, to me, is kind of like what someone else said. He's a guy with a memorable hair style and an accent who sometimes spits apple on people. It sticks with me, but it doesn't entertain me, so I don't care for seeing him pushed.
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crup
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Post by crup on Feb 6, 2007 1:40:22 GMT -5
I was actually marking hard during that promo - very old-school heel Flair-ish, and totally awesome. I just marked for Mankato, Minnesota....How bout this weather we're having??? I was diggin' the promo as well.....Flair should stick with the angry stuff. We need a heel Carlito back as well.
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Post by The Blue Blazer on Feb 6, 2007 2:05:59 GMT -5
That promo was the high point of Raw tonight. Ric Flair is still The Man.
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Post by Hensley on Feb 6, 2007 2:08:21 GMT -5
Supposedly, that is truly why Carlito is in the mid-card. Vince thinks he doesn't put enough effort into his shit, but then again Carlito hates being a face, and is disgusted with all his 'puppy love' storylines (Trish/Torrie). Can't say I blame him, but a heel Carlito against a face Flair at WrestleMania would go for me. As long as Flair puts him over, of course.
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Post by Skeleton Crew on Feb 6, 2007 2:10:26 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made. A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem. I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion. foley, austin and hogan are hardly on so whats wrong with any of them having a pay per view or 2 to wrestle on? plus even if "you" dont like watching them the majority of the paying fans do. Carlito is a boring Razor Ramoan Wannabe so why should a legend let him win? MVP,Kennedy,Burke and Nitro Should have to pay there dues before having everything handed to them. in other words they don't deserve it yet. Punk is paying his dues and should excel in the months and years to come plus he will prob bulk up some more before he wins a major championship. So Flair is old he still entertains people something Carlito rarely does. out of any of the new generation you just talked about i think punk is the only sure thing there.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 6, 2007 2:12:28 GMT -5
Just getting annoyed with people not realizing that people like HBK, Flair, HHH, Taker, Foley, Austin, and Hogan will not be there forever and would rather see those people rather than future superstars being made. A huge Part of it is WWE Management fault but people rather hearing another promo by Flair than Carlito progressing his career and getting better with feuds against legends is my problem. I wish they would go away from focusing to much on the past and look at the future, because alot of the roster is getting up there in age. People like Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, Burke, Punk and Nitro will be very important when the other people I mentioned retire. Really it's funny if they stop the diva, let Carlito be himself, and stop the springboard moves Carlito would be so over. But whatever thats my opinion. foley, austin and hogan are hardly on so whats wrong with any of them having a pay per view or 2 to wrestle on? plus even if "you" dont like watching them the majority of the paying fans do. Carlito is a boring Razor Ramoan Wannabe so why should a legend let him win? MVP,Kennedy,Burke and Nitro Should have to pay there dues before having everything handed to them. in other words they don't deserve it yet. Punk is paying his dues and should excel in the months and years to come plus he will prob bulk up some more before he wins a major championship. So Flair is old he still entertains people something Carlito rarely does. out of any of the new generation you just talked about i think punk is the only sure thing there. Johnny Nitro is another near-surefire rookie. He gets better every time I see him.
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Post by Skeleton Crew on Feb 6, 2007 2:16:09 GMT -5
foley, austin and hogan are hardly on so whats wrong with any of them having a pay per view or 2 to wrestle on? plus even if "you" dont like watching them the majority of the paying fans do. Carlito is a boring Razor Ramoan Wannabe so why should a legend let him win? MVP,Kennedy,Burke and Nitro Should have to pay there dues before having everything handed to them. in other words they don't deserve it yet. Punk is paying his dues and should excel in the months and years to come plus he will prob bulk up some more before he wins a major championship. So Flair is old he still entertains people something Carlito rarely does. out of any of the new generation you just talked about i think punk is the only sure thing there. Johnny Nitro is another near-surefire rookie. He gets better every time I see him. Nitro is improving i'm not saying he wont excel i just see a punk breakout long before nitro. he did make a decent IC champ though.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 6, 2007 2:18:45 GMT -5
What the hell was all that about? Carlito is a lazy bastard, and he just coast not having a care in the world. That's not the attitude of somebody who wants to get to the top. Carlito is good and Flair is pissed that he would disrespect the business and leave before the show is over just because he's not main eventing. god do i want Carlito to become heel again, so he could lose a Hair vs. Hair match and I can start taking him seriously
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 6, 2007 2:44:18 GMT -5
The real question is what happened to Chloe?
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 6, 2007 2:45:43 GMT -5
I think this could be the start of Carlito becoming a star if he actually kinda stops being lazy in the ring for real...
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 6, 2007 2:45:46 GMT -5
she got a haircut
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 6, 2007 2:51:03 GMT -5
The real question is what happened to Chloe? Why in the hell is that "the real question"?
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