Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Feb 3, 2007 22:53:51 GMT -5
Aaahhhh the minestry awsome till one fateful moment
VINCE WAS THE HIGHER F****ING POWER!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 3, 2007 22:54:23 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5JYxVpSf2cGangrel and Viscera, about to face Undertaker in a handicap match after having aligned with Bradshaw. They're JBL's Lackeys and fighting the UNDERTAKER and they got face pops. Enough said. I wish they had kept Gangrel over Viscera. I don't mind Big Vis, but Gangrel is a more interesting character to me. Plus, he has that nifty spinning elbow drop. And his track record as a manager is amazing. Two former world champions, the current IC champ and...Matt.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 3, 2007 22:55:11 GMT -5
Blue Meanie giving Golddust a Blue Bath was pretty funny. For mentioning this, you are officially the February 2007 Wrestlecrap Forum Poster of the Month. YES!! LETS GO HEADCHEESE BACKFLIPS!!
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 3, 2007 22:55:20 GMT -5
I wish they had kept Gangrel over Viscera. I don't mind Big Vis, but Gangrel is a more interesting character to me. Plus, he has that nifty spinning elbow drop. And his track record as a manager is amazing. Two former world champions, the current IC champ and...Matt. Not to mention two-time NWA Heavyweight Champion Christian Cage.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 3, 2007 22:56:34 GMT -5
I know a girl who served Gangrel a chicken kebab with coleslaw and chips when he was doing a show here about two or three years ago (i think).
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 3, 2007 22:58:50 GMT -5
And his track record as a manager is amazing. Two former world champions, the current IC champ and...Matt. Not to mention two-time NWA Heavyweight Champion Christian Cage. I referred to him in the "two former world champions" bit, completely forgetting he has it now.
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Post by OldGravyLeg on Feb 3, 2007 23:00:25 GMT -5
Couple of comments:
- The ministry angle (particularly the burning of the teddy bear) was the introduction of Stephanie McMahon as an on-screen character.
- The forming of the "Corporate Ministry" occurred on the very first episode of "Smackdown" (although at that point, it was considered a one-time special... it got a regular timespot a couple months later)
- The "Corporate Ministry" angle did suck & pretty much killed the storyline (which I was thoroughly enjoying) however, it had really awesome entrance music. If you can find it online, it's worth a listen.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2007 23:07:09 GMT -5
Taker's theme at this time was great.. though this is around the time I got tired of the Deadman, which is why I was glad to see the Bikertaker version. Wish he'd have kept it.
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Post by mo on Feb 3, 2007 23:08:38 GMT -5
The Corporate Ministry theme is on the Anthology set (on the first disc for some reason)
and yeah, it is great
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 3, 2007 23:18:18 GMT -5
I like Taker's look during this. The only part that ruined when Vince became the higher power and killed the hold point of the angle. But Taker had some cool music and a cool look during it.
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Post by balmudo on Feb 3, 2007 23:29:06 GMT -5
It sounds tremendous. I love any 'cult leader' angles where you have formally somewhat boring wrestlers turned into completely different creatures by a charismatic figurehead. I suppose only men like Undertaker and Raven could make that work ... It's not as well documented, but I think Kevin Sullivan pretty much started the crazy Satanic cult leader-thing back in the early 80's in the Florida region. I'd like to see that stuff. Hee. I always loved that picture as a kid, although the idea of psychotic Satanic wrestlers scared the hell out of me at the time.
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Post by Hakumental on Feb 3, 2007 23:29:54 GMT -5
Best version of the Undertaker yet and a solid angle for about 3/4ths of its history. As I've said before, 'Taker is at his creepiest when he's not summoning lightning, but actually doing something more...occult.
So, quite easily, he got really creepy when he had his Ministry appear outside what was allegedly the McMahon house, all of them smirking smugly and all of them clad in dark, his voice-over making very cold threats ("Or maybe I'll just torture her.") and sending Vince and Shane into a panic ringing up the phone backstage, trying to call the cops or tell Stephanie that he was outside. While obviously fantastical, it actually seemed like something that could happen in real life, and that he would menace and prowl after a young woman, somehow even obtaining a stuffed animal from her childhood and igniting it in front of her father, really did chill the spine. He also sported the look that is my favorite of all Undertaker appearances, slicked-back hair almost to a widow's peak, a sharp goatee, often in a druid's robe- it all seemed to emphasize his skull, which was surprisingly artistic.
'Course, we got Stephanie coming in, calling him "Mark" out of all that and hugging Austin when he came to save her, sooo there were some mildly annoying moments that took away from the drama...but damned if the Undertaker wasn't at his most chilling during that angle.
The Higher Power twist and subsequent "Corporate Ministry" was a horrible payoff to the entire angle, but at least it had potential. Tell me you wouldn't have marked if that last druid had thrown back his hood -- and it's Jake "The Snake" Roberts under there, joining forces with an old rival and orchestrating a whole team of cultists just to crush Austin, the man who used him as a stepping stone to stardom.
Ahh, a boy can dream. God I miss Ministry 'Taker.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 3, 2007 23:30:38 GMT -5
It sounds tremendous. I love any 'cult leader' angles where you have formally somewhat boring wrestlers turned into completely different creatures by a charismatic figurehead. I suppose only men like Undertaker and Raven could make that work ... It's not as well documented, but I think Kevin Sullivan pretty much started the crazy Satanic cult leader-thing back in the early 80's in the Florida region. I'd like to see that stuff. Hee. I always loved that picture as a kid, although the idea of psychotic Satanic wrestlers scared the hell out of me at the time. Mrs Benoit is HOT That angle sounds cool from what i read
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Post by WarriorWarrior on Feb 3, 2007 23:38:51 GMT -5
I like how Vince told him he was takin his gimmick too far. I was just getting to know the backstage talk then, and to hear Vince say gimmick was awesome
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2007 23:39:39 GMT -5
Yeah Woman is/was a hottie.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Feb 3, 2007 23:57:55 GMT -5
Best version of the Undertaker yet and a solid angle for about 3/4ths of its history. As I've said before, 'Taker is at his creepiest when he's not summoning lightning, but actually doing something more...occult. So, quite easily, he got really creepy when he had his Ministry appear outside what was allegedly the McMahon house, all of them smirking smugly and all of them clad in dark, his voice-over making very cold threats (" Or maybe I'll just torture her.") and sending Vince and Shane into a panic ringing up the phone backstage, trying to call the cops or tell Stephanie that he was outside. While obviously fantastical, it actually seemed like something that could happen in real life, and that he would menace and prowl after a young woman, somehow even obtaining a stuffed animal from her childhood and igniting it in front of her father, really did chill the spine. He also sported the look that is my favorite of all Undertaker appearances, slicked-back hair almost to a widow's peak, a sharp goatee, often in a druid's robe- it all seemed to emphasize his skull, which was surprisingly artistic. 'Course, we got Stephanie coming in, calling him "Mark" out of all that and hugging Austin when he came to save her, sooo there were some mildly annoying moments that took away from the drama...but damned if the Undertaker wasn't at his most chilling during that angle. The Higher Power twist and subsequent "Corporate Ministry" was a horrible payoff to the entire angle, but at least it had potential. Tell me you wouldn't have marked if that last druid had thrown back his hood -- and it's Jake "The Snake" Roberts under there, joining forces with an old rival and orchestrating a whole team of cultists just to crush Austin, the man who used him as a stepping stone to stardom. Ahh, a boy can dream. God I miss Ministry 'Taker. I even think Vince calling him Mark helped the gimmick. It gave it a shoot element, because it made Undertaker seem like a complete lunatic, obsessed with his character. Who knows what a kayfabe-obsessed Umaga might do, for example?
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