Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 3, 2007 1:23:00 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan didn't need to go over Andre THe Giant, he was already THE BIGGEST STAR in pro wrestling.
Batista/Cena don't need to go over Taker they are already the biggest stars in pro wrestling.
However going over Andre is a moment remembered for 20 years, and well going over Undertaker may have that same effect.
It was that extra bit that really solidified Hulkster as THE Icon.
It would be wasted in putting over a Kennedy just to solidify somebody as a main eventer...eheh
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Post by ghettooverlord on Feb 3, 2007 1:36:53 GMT -5
The only person who should ever break the streak is Vince McMahon. He created Undertakermania, and now he's out to KILL IT!
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Feb 3, 2007 2:00:39 GMT -5
The only person who should ever break the streak is Vince McMahon. He created Undertakermania, and now he's out to KILL IT! Oh god, please tell me you were joking. Please, for the love of all that is holy, tell me you were joking!!If Vince really does have cronies reading these boards, WrestleMania is f***ed.  |
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Post by ghettooverlord on Feb 3, 2007 2:11:53 GMT -5
The only person who should ever break the streak is Vince McMahon. He created Undertakermania, and now he's out to KILL IT! Oh god, please tell me you were joking. Please, for the love of all that is holy, tell me you were joking!!If Vince really does have cronies reading these boards, WrestleMania is f***ed. The only joke around here is how badly Vince McMahon is gonna destroy the Undertaker at Wrestlemania! Wrestling is real!!!11one |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 3, 2007 3:20:44 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan didn't need to go over Andre THe Giant, he was already THE BIGGEST STAR in pro wrestling. However going over Andre is a moment remembered for 20 years, and well going over Undertaker may have that same effect. It was that extra bit that really solidified Hulkster as THE Icon. I say Hogan did need to go over Andre....it was a passing of the torch moment and very important to Hulk's career. Hulk could have done the same with Rocky, but he's busy making films for Disney or some such shit now... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 3:26:05 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan didn't need to go over Andre THe Giant, he was already THE BIGGEST STAR in pro wrestling. However going over Andre is a moment remembered for 20 years, and well going over Undertaker may have that same effect. It was that extra bit that really solidified Hulkster as THE Icon. I say Hogan did need to go over Andre....it was a passing of the torch moment and very important to Hulk's career. I agree there, Hogan definetely needed it because like the original poster said it basically solidified Hulkamania, being the most memorable match, OF ALL TIME. I can't see Batista or Cena getting out of it what Hogan got out of Andre though, I think Batista kind of had his moment with Triple H, and Cena, pretty much the same. I might just be saying that though because I REALLY wanna see Undertaker win it bad. |
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 3, 2007 3:40:33 GMT -5
I say Hogan did need to go over Andre....it was a passing of the torch moment and very important to Hulk's career. I agree there, Hogan definetely needed it because like the original poster said it basically solidified Hulkamania, being the most memorable match, OF ALL TIME. I have never bought the "passing the torch" garbage (which Hogan always repeats like the gospel, often while exaggerating Andre's weight and the idea that Andre might have started shooting on him in mid-match). Hogan already had held the torch for three years when the WM3 buildup started. Hogan going over Andre was not about passing anything -- except maybe a main-event paycheck to Andre, whose body was breaking down and who didn't have many big-money feuds left in him. Hogan over Andre = $$$. It made the most business and storyline sense for the WWF, and it sold a hell of a lot of yellow T-shirts. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 3, 2007 3:42:49 GMT -5
I agree there, Hogan definetely needed it because like the original poster said it basically solidified Hulkamania, being the most memorable match, OF ALL TIME. I have never bought the "passing the torch" garbage (which Hogan always repeats like the gospel, often while exaggerating Andre's weight and the idea that Andre might have started shooting on him in mid-match). Hogan already had held the torch for three years when the WM3 buildup started. Hogan going over Andre was not about passing anything -- except maybe a main-event paycheck to Andre, whose body was breaking down and who didn't have many big-money feuds left in him. Hogan over Andre = $$$. It made the most business and storyline sense for the WWF, and it sold a hell of a lot of yellow T-shirts. Had it never happened, we'd all sit here and wonder if Hulk could have ever beat Andre. |
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Feb 3, 2007 3:57:05 GMT -5
Khali beat Undertaker clean.
He's the biggest star in wrestling.
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Post by Cousin Judge on Feb 3, 2007 7:58:48 GMT -5
Undertaker putting someone over is not even in the same solar system as Andre putting someone over. Undertaker is a legend in his own right but it's never a shock to see him get beat. If someone defeats the UT due to outside interference or a 'foriegn' object then it doesn't send shock waves around the wrestling world. With Andre it was different, he never lost (at least in kayfabe) so when Hogan beat him it was a HUGE deal. To this day it still remains the most important victory for the most important superstar in the history of the industry.
As for the point that The Game made about if it hadn't happened we'd be wondering whether Hogan would have beaten Andre, I don't think we would have. Same way as we never saw Hogan defeat Backlund, Graham, or Samartino in that era of WWF. It hasn't hindered the career or Hogan that he didn't have the opportunity to have the torch passed to him from those guys. Andre by 1987 had long since stopped being the most important character in wrestling. He was still very important but it the next big superstar (which was what Hogan already was) didn't need the rub from Andre to promote or even solidify anything. What WM3 was was a magnificent event, a dream match. But same way as Rock didn't need to go over Hogan to solidify his legacy, Hogan didn't need to go over Andre. It happened and that's great but if it hadn't Hogan woud have still have been the biggest thing wrestling has ever seen.
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