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Post by Joekishi on Jan 9, 2007 14:48:15 GMT -5
I don't know if anybody will ever acknowledge it, but John Cena sells excellently. Seriously I thought he was dead last night..
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 9, 2007 14:49:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's one thing you can't take away from the guy.
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Byakugan
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 9, 2007 14:50:36 GMT -5
Cena is amazing.
His character SUCKS as a face though
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Post by Loki on Jan 9, 2007 14:58:36 GMT -5
He sells pretty well at times...
Too bad he's able to hit his signature moves with no problems after having taken a good 10 minutes beatdown...
I know Hogan built his career on suddenly no selling offense, but he was Hulk f*n Hogan!!!
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Post by heffer111 on Jan 9, 2007 15:00:39 GMT -5
HE WILL NEVER NO SELL THE BRAIN CHOP
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Byakugan
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 9, 2007 15:02:12 GMT -5
He sells pretty well at times... Too bad he's able to hit his signature moves with no problems after having taken a good 10 minutes beatdown... I know Hogan built his career on suddenly no selling offense, but he was Hulk f*n Hogan!!! His finisher is just a firemans carry |
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Post by Square on Jan 9, 2007 15:11:56 GMT -5
Hogan's finisher is a leg drop
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 15:13:24 GMT -5
they both have crap finishers. but cena can sell well i think he'd be a lot better if he was booked better and not told to be superman
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Post by The OP on Jan 9, 2007 15:22:20 GMT -5
Cena is very good at selling, but if you recall, he hasn't always been. He used to be kinda bad at it, which was one of the major criticisms people had at the beginning of his first championship run. In my opinion, Cena has improved tremendously in this time.
Some people will of course claim that the IWC just likes to change their opinion to be contrary or whatever, but I think more people are liking Cena because he's gotten better and that's all there is to it.
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 15:30:45 GMT -5
i really do think that if cena was told to do things a certain way he would be proficient in the ring. he's strong, quick and does sell pretty well. its just that he's been booked as a superhero
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Post by The OP on Jan 9, 2007 15:33:15 GMT -5
I think you're right, and I think the McMahon & company might finally be wising up to that fact. For instance, last night Cena was definitely made look inferior to Khali. Getting yourself DQ'ed in desperation is definitely not a Superman-style move. I think people will get into his programs more if he seems more vulnerable like this.
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 15:35:12 GMT -5
i just hope he starts to look that vulnerable against everyone. i like competition for the top spot, the feeling that 5 or 6 guys could be champ
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Post by The OP on Jan 9, 2007 15:39:23 GMT -5
Exactly. At this point, with the rich and diverse talent pool available, I think most people would like to see more than just two top contenders at any given time on any wrestling show. Certainly not just ONE contender, who always holds onto the title, or quickly regains it, often despite impossible odds. The idea of one unstoppable guy who can overcome all these odds just like magic is not appealing to fans the way it used to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2007 15:40:48 GMT -5
When I first read the thread title, I thought this was a thread about merchandise selling.
I then envisioned John Cena on a street corner trying to sell copies of The Big Issue.
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manx21
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 15:42:50 GMT -5
indeed. the great thing about the attitude era was that there were so many guys who could win the top belt: triple h, the rock, austin, undertker, mankind, angle, michaels before he was injured, big show, even kane, benoit and jericho to a degree. of course that was helped by one having one top belt
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Post by Deadman Inc. Misses Shawn on Jan 9, 2007 15:44:07 GMT -5
Yea that's what I loved about JBL's tile run. You had Eddie, Taker, JBL, Booker, and Big Show all fighting for the title. If they could do that on Raw with HBK, Edge, Orton, Cena, and maybe Umaga it it could really start to turn around Raw.
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 15:47:42 GMT -5
i forgot about jbls run. yeah it was good cos of the variety of the challengers. this is what needs to happen on RAW in tandem with cena becoming more vulnerable and being booked better hence better in the ring. but it'll never happen lol
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Post by American Nightmare on Jan 9, 2007 15:51:41 GMT -5
Cena is a very good performer, hes just had a bad character for a while. Now that hes playing the underdog, we're getting a much better Cena
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 9, 2007 15:55:46 GMT -5
He sells pretty well at times... Too bad he's able to hit his signature moves with no problems after having taken a good 10 minutes beatdown... I know Hogan built his career on suddenly no selling offense, but he was Hulk f*n Hogan!!! His finisher is just a firemans carry It's a fireman's carry OF DESTRUCTION |
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 16:03:05 GMT -5
he's a fireman you wouldnt want to carry you thats for sure
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