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Post by mightydavidson on Jun 30, 2007 19:30:07 GMT -5
My problem with the idea that Benoit had Daniel in the Crossface is that police said they thought he had him in the crook of his arm because there weren't finger marks on his neck. The Crossface would leave finger bruises from the backs of the knuckles. Been thinking about that. I have no doubt myself that he used a variation of it, though not exactly the same version we see all the time. Would it have been possible for him to have used it more to hold a pillow in place more so than to actually do the deed itself? That way all the news reports are right. It was a chokehold, and the boy was indeed smothered. Except of course that the actual police report said that Daniel was smothered using a plastic bag.
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Post by superfoe on Jun 30, 2007 19:32:00 GMT -5
I just saw the Jericho-Nancy Grace interview. He's amazing.
Edit: Oops, sorry! I didn't see the topic below.
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Post by nisi on Jun 30, 2007 19:34:48 GMT -5
Except of course that the actual police report said that Daniel was smothered using a plastic bag. Any link to that mightdavidson? not that I doubt you, just that my search skils are crap.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Jun 30, 2007 19:35:20 GMT -5
It wasn't a choke hold. I'm not going to post it but a Crossface doesn't even touch the neck. Just google search it.
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Post by nisi on Jun 30, 2007 19:40:16 GMT -5
I found a reference to teh plastic bag on Newsday.
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Post by mightydavidson on Jun 30, 2007 19:43:14 GMT -5
Except of course that the actual police report said that Daniel was smothered using a plastic bag. Any link to that mightdavidson? not that I doubt you, just that my search skils are crap. I read it on 411mania.com. They've been covering the story since the beginning and they printed the results of the investigation so far that had been released in the press conference by the police. Nancy was strangled with an electrical cord, Daniel smothered with a bag. No mention of pro wrestling finishers at all.
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Post by thesunbeast on Jun 30, 2007 19:45:27 GMT -5
I can't believe that people think that wrestlers use their special moves in real life.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Jun 30, 2007 19:46:48 GMT -5
The "police press conference" never said there was a plastic bag. At least the one I'm looking at right now. Meltzer gets his information from high-ups in the WWE. WWE is not going to report this information, but they COULD....... Meltzer wouldn't put these details on his website if it wasn't absolutely true.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 30, 2007 19:48:33 GMT -5
Can anyone link to an actual news story that mentions the plastic bag? I have yet to see it outside of mentions here.
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Post by mightydavidson on Jun 30, 2007 19:51:23 GMT -5
The "police press conference" never said there was a plastic bag. At least the one I'm looking at right now. Meltzer gets his information from high-ups in the WWE. WWE is not going to report this information, but they COULD....... Meltzer wouldn't put these details on his website if it wasn't absolutely true. Except of course for the actual police reports which pretty much contradict what Meltzer is saying as far as the whole crossface BS goes.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 30, 2007 19:53:06 GMT -5
And it's THE MEDIA FAULT for suggesting a possible link an industry where there has been a history of steriod use Oh no no. There's *suggesting* it and there's jamming it down everyone's thoat. HUGE difference there. Anytime anyone has even attempted to suggest anything other than steroids might have been involved, the person has been shit all over. Anyone interviewed has been badgered to death over the steroid question. 99% of the coverage I have seen has been designed to blame steroids and nothing else. Benoit couldnt have been having some type of serious mental issues, it HAD to be steroids.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 30, 2007 19:54:15 GMT -5
The "police press conference" never said there was a plastic bag. At least the one I'm looking at right now. Meltzer gets his information from high-ups in the WWE. WWE is not going to report this information, but they COULD....... Meltzer wouldn't put these details on his website if it wasn't absolutely true. Except of course for the actual police reports which pretty much contradict what Meltzer is saying as far as the whole crossface BS goes. Where might the rest of us see the actual police reports?
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Post by mightydavidson on Jun 30, 2007 20:12:06 GMT -5
411mania.com was where I read it. Presumably you could read them at any site that's been following the news of the tragedy since it started.
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Jun 30, 2007 20:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by lethaldosage50 on Jun 30, 2007 20:15:49 GMT -5
Wow, I mean I feel bad for Debra, but she's doing a lot of self-pity here. I applaud Bill DeMott for being very well spoken. I hate how just because he won't flat out blame steroids, he's keeping a secret. And why do they keep interrupting him? Let the man make his point all ready...
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 30, 2007 20:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 30, 2007 20:18:13 GMT -5
So benoit was taking Date Rape drugs.... ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jun 30, 2007 20:24:35 GMT -5
Wow, this get weirder and weirder. Would this be something the Wellness policy would even test for?
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Post by mysterydriver on Jun 30, 2007 20:24:50 GMT -5
It is getting to the (irritating) point where I've decided to give up on the news until the toxicology comes out.
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Post by Johnny on Jun 30, 2007 20:24:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't taking GHB just make Benoit fall asleep?
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