jayjaystyles
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Post by jayjaystyles on Sept 18, 2007 1:21:57 GMT -5
further proof WWE sucks. Marcus Cor Von is a dead end gimmick for the man. I want "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown back and in TNA. why Monty thought going to WWE was a good idea i have no clue. He must've taken too man El Kabongs from Jarrett. At least Ron Killings wont make the same mistake.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 18, 2007 1:23:12 GMT -5
He needs to take a number and wait in line with the other 40 or so guys
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Post by wwerules60 on Sept 18, 2007 1:24:11 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they still call him the alpha male. And if he didn't leave I think they were pushing him to a world title match.
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Post by popples on Sept 18, 2007 1:24:15 GMT -5
Didn't he have some sort of personal thing happening. He was getting a pretty good push before he went on hiatus. He would have definitely been in the title picture if he had stuck around in TNA though.
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Post by EJS on Sept 18, 2007 1:27:23 GMT -5
How can they misuse him when he isn't around to be used?
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jayjaystyles
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Post by jayjaystyles on Sept 18, 2007 1:27:39 GMT -5
he was supposed to be the "Kurt Angle Stopper" by Genesis. Someone said that he didnt know that until he signed with WWE though. I have a fond memory of Monty giving Jarrett a pounce after Jarrett tried to el kabong him for leaving Planet Jarrett
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Post by EJS on Sept 18, 2007 1:28:26 GMT -5
I have no clue what the hell you're talking about, man.
Also, Ron Killings quit TNA too, they just lured him back with Pac-Man.
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Post by lildude8218 on Sept 18, 2007 1:29:46 GMT -5
Let's see:
Since he debuted last year he's lost one match in ECW and that was in the ECW Title tournament. He's also had that undefeated streak protected in at least one elimination match by having him DQ'd instead of taking a fall. He's using the exact same gimmick with a different name and his finisher which is just a shoulder tackle has been treated like death and highlighted constantly after he uses it. They're also letting him stay at home to deal with personal family matters without pressuring him to get back in the ring.
Yeah, they're REALLY misusing him alright!
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jayjaystyles
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Post by jayjaystyles on Sept 18, 2007 1:35:31 GMT -5
im talking about WWE misuse, not TNA. If he was still in TNA, he would be beating Angle to a pulp right now. and I dont think Ron would go back to WWE. I dont think he wants to even remember..K-Kwik.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 1:39:04 GMT -5
I think the guy's a star. He's not the best worker, but he's intense in the ring, and his mic ability would get him super over if this were the WWE of the late-90s. If he had promo time on say, RAW, every Monday night since he debuted...the guy would be super over as a face or heel. You can almost sense that he's a huge fan of The Rock and Stone Cold's larger than life, real characters, but he's one of the few that's entered the wrestling business since those days that truly "gets" how to pull of that character.
Plus, giving an NFL vet that's played in a Super Bowl (and actually became a decent wrestling talent) a fake name like "Marcus Cor Von" is beyond stupid. The guy should've debuted on RAW, and with J.R. oozing weekly over his football credentials, he should've been one of the biggest stars they have by now (aside from sitting out over the family issues).
TNA and WWE have both protected his character. But TNA didn't push him hard enough, and WWE hasn't pushed him hard enough. Kind of a shame. He's very talented.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 18, 2007 1:40:43 GMT -5
It's almost the exact same gimmick except for the name. Add that to the fact that he's been out for months taking care of personal stuff and it's sorta hard to use him at all, let alone 'correctly'.
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 18, 2007 2:07:05 GMT -5
I've been saying it for a while (not on these boards but to myself), but I'd love to see him on Raw with a good push. Basically have him swap shows with Snitsky, give him a couple of squash matches and promos to see how the fans react, and go from there. I'd love to see Cor Von vs. Cena. Only problem I have is that name though...definately preffered Monty Brown.
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Post by HRH The KING on Sept 18, 2007 2:10:17 GMT -5
He may have been the Alpha Male in TNA
In WWE, he's another one of the lesser males.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 3:19:37 GMT -5
I've been saying it for a while (not on these boards but to myself), but I'd love to see him on Raw with a good push. Basically have him swap shows with Snitsky, give him a couple of squash matches and promos to see how the fans react, and go from there. I'd love to see Cor Von vs. Cena. Only problem I have is that name though...definately preffered Monty Brown. Spot on. It's ridiculous that WWE keeps giving guys like Snitsky, Masters, and Big Daddy V chance after chance to get over, when all they have to do is use their squash matches/segments for "Marcus Cor Von" when he debuted, then stick a mic in front of his grill for 45 seconds before or after the match and they'd have a star, quick. It's really not asking a whole lot, and I know that the guy is out right now for whatever reason...but they weren't exactly using him properly before, not even on a nothing-happening show like ECW was earlier in the year (it's gotten much better). They didn't make him look like a jobber, but they didn't make him look like anything special either. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Cor Von's more "ready" than an Elijah Burke or Matt Striker, but that's the level WWE had him at push-wise. After one month of using Monty Brown properly in WWE, he'd be more over than 90 Snitskys. Monty wasn't a mega super-duper star in TNA, but that's TNA's deal/fault, and he wasn't a great fit for what they were doing while he was around (he felt too "WWE" back when the promotion wasn't giving off that vibe). He's a perfect fit in WWE though, and Vince hasn't capitalized on that so far, in a time where WWE needs new stars, and it's an uphill struggle in creating them.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 18, 2007 3:29:34 GMT -5
Kinda hard to say he's being misused when he's at home dealin with personal issues.
I'll wait for him to come back and see his run before I pass judgment.
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 18, 2007 6:08:42 GMT -5
he was supposed to be the "Kurt Angle Stopper" by Genesis. Someone said that he didnt know that until he signed with WWE though. I have a fond memory of Monty giving Jarrett a pounce after Jarrett tried to el kabong him for leaving Planet Jarrett Where did you hear that? From my watching of TNA, Monty was the first stop for every WWE guy who showed up. Jeff Hardy? Beat him. Chrisitian? Beat him. I truly believe if he stuck around he'd still be in the upper-midcard babbling about Bob the Builder and getting "Shiny Shirt!" chants, except that he would have tapped out to Kurt Angle by now. Actually, I figured the plan was for Monty to be Angle's debut win, which ended up being over Abyss. That seemed to be how they do things.
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Post by blackstussyshirt on Sept 18, 2007 7:06:50 GMT -5
Typical TNA fan. MCV is fine. Be thankful Vince is a cool guy and letting him deal with his personal family issues for as long as it takes without pressuring him to return to the ring (especially at a time they need him most). If you are a fan of his, you should be happy for him right now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 10:02:12 GMT -5
He should be fine once he comes back.
As with most worthwhile people on ECW, I expect him to be highlighted for a while and then moved to one of the other two brands for more exposure.
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Post by Danimal on Sept 18, 2007 10:26:11 GMT -5
If Monte was going to get a push it should have been made-clear to him before he left TNA.
I do think the Marcus Cor Von deal is dumb. Monte needed a little ring-honing but they shouldn't have messed with what worked. He came in to the C-show with zero fanfare and a new name, pretty dumb IMO. Signing Monte was a good idea but the handling of him has been meh.
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Post by jayjaystyles on Sept 18, 2007 11:23:18 GMT -5
I understand hes chilling without pressure, which is probably the only decent thing Vince has done in 6 years is let someone take care of personal issues. But its a classic case, guy jumps from WCW, ECW or TNA and is thrown on the B or C show with no real push and a dumb name. I will say hes probably the only guy who jumped from TNA that got any significant exposure in WWE. But before he sat out, he wasnt getting a push, not really. Like some say, throw the guy on raw when he comes back stick a mic in his face, and let him bring some viewers in. The guy is a star, and could be yet another Main Eventer for Vince. In he next two years Monty, Lashley, Shelton, Jeff, MVP, and Punk should get significant pushes to the World Heavyweight or WWE Titles. Then we wont be bored with Cena or Batista anymore, because we will have a legi group of Main Eventers.
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