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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 18, 2007 21:47:44 GMT -5
Again, if the WWE really wanted to, they'd just have to tell Cena "show what you can do", and he'd put on a solid match. The guy has talent. He's most likely told, in an indirect way, not to show it. I think, due to his appeal to the younger set, the agents likely don't want him wrestling anything resembling a "complicated" style, or a style that forces people to pay attention to anything besides the "<insert single digit of choice here> Moves of DOOM" that a given babyface does in WWE.
Now, as for the people chanting "You can't wrestle!"...I'm sure Vince was crying his eyes out as he sat in his office and counted all the money those fans blew on their tickets and various merchandise purchases. Because clearly, the way to tell the WWE you're dissatisfied with it is to give it more money, lol m i rite, guys?!
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Post by ultimatekennedy on Sept 18, 2007 22:57:52 GMT -5
......and the ring, that ring has no workrate. And I mean c'mon JR's hat it's just ugh, three moves is all it has and don't get me started on those hats Vince was wearing for a while, all style no susstance, do I need to get started on that crown that king wears? |
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Post by blackstussyshirt on Sept 18, 2007 23:04:30 GMT -5
Again, if the WWE really wanted to, they'd just have to tell Cena "show what you can do", and he'd put on a solid match. The guy has talent. He's most likely told, in an indirect way, not to show it. I think, due to his appeal to the younger set, the agents likely don't want him wrestling anything resembling a "complicated" style, or a style that forces people to pay attention to anything besides the "<insert single digit of choice here> Moves of DOOM" that a given babyface does in WWE. Now, as for the people chanting "You can't wrestle!"...I'm sure Vince was crying his eyes out as he sat in his office and counted all the money those fans blew on their tickets and various merchandise purchases. Because clearly, the way to tell the WWE you're dissatisfied with it is to give it more money, lol m i rite, guys?!Great post. |
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Sept 19, 2007 16:44:38 GMT -5
Again, if the WWE really wanted to, they'd just have to tell Cena "show what you can do", and he'd put on a solid match. The guy has talent. He's most likely told, in an indirect way, not to show it. I think, due to his appeal to the younger set, the agents likely don't want him wrestling anything resembling a "complicated" style, or a style that forces people to pay attention to anything besides the "<insert single digit of choice here> Moves of DOOM" that a given babyface does in WWE. [/i][/quote] Honestly, the chant didn't bother me as much becase it ruined the segment (which it did, on a good segment by the way) but rather the fact that , well, those just aren't valid anymore. Cena has done so much the past year to just shut those accusations up, it made no sense chanting it. Cena circa 2004/5 and early 06 would've been understandable, but he's done so much since. If you're gonna ruin something ( which is stupid considering you're IN ATTENDANCE), at least make it relevant. I don't know what they'd chant though, I think Cena/Orton has been a hell of a feud so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 17:06:14 GMT -5
... these are the same people who cheered when HHH buried 5 people.... dont forget that... they ruined a pretty good segment... and Cena has put on some good matches as other people have said
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Post by Above Average on Sept 19, 2007 17:14:42 GMT -5
Cena had good to great matches in the last year with Edge, Orton, Michaels, Lashley, Umaga and EVEN the Great Khali... so clearly he can't wrestle.  I know it's all a matter of taste but I doubt the majority of those fans found none of those matches entertaining. |
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Post by Christianv2 on Sept 19, 2007 17:44:49 GMT -5
Was I the only that noticed that not only was the handcuff quite long, it was basically already broken...the cuff that was cuffed to the rope wasnt even locked in right. He could have pulled it and it would have fell off thats why when Cena moved around he grabbed the cuff that was cuffed to the rope to make sure it didnt fall off.
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Post by greate on Sept 19, 2007 18:14:44 GMT -5
Two main event wrestlers be it Cena or orton can pretty damn sure wrestle so i'm not quite sure what the crowd wanted. ECW did indeed left it's mark in wrestling history, these chants will be heard for a looong time....and it sucks.
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Post by damian316 on Sept 19, 2007 18:29:33 GMT -5
Its not really Cena's fault, or WWE's fault that Cena has been champ for so long. Hear me out ...
Name the last top-level heel who has stayed around long enough to be a solid challenger to Cena who can take the title off of Cena and carry the number one brand in the WWE on their shoulders? I know that they've been trying to build up Orton as that guy, but Orton has had lots of problems so far in his career with various suspensions and other backstage incidents. Thats the only reason that Cena's reign and the WWE product have become so stale and predictable -- the lack of top level main-event heels who know how to legitimitly get heat from the crowd rather than "I speak a foreign language" or "I have big muscles and look scary".
Now sure, the WWE are the ones who build these guys up, but the current status of the WWE roster and the fact that there are pretty much no guys who can legitimitely take the belt off of Cena is actually quite shocking. I would have loved for HHH to have returned as the Evolution-Era Triple H and start a program with Cena. Its that kind of a heel presense that will be required to take the belt off of Cena ...
The WWE is stuck with Cena as champion -- and I guess they did put themselves in this position -- until a believable challenger can come along and take the belt off of Cena.
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Post by Rest easy big bro on Sept 19, 2007 18:37:50 GMT -5
......and the ring, that ring has no workrate. But i hear its going to feud with the ladder. bonus cookie for getting the reference. |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Sept 19, 2007 22:10:10 GMT -5
People moaning about a long title reign really have no patience. He hasn't been shoved down our throats. He is the champion because the most charismatic, over guy on Raw right now. If he wasn't champ, he would be in the main event scene, in the title scene or whatever using the same character. It would be no different. Someone else having the title won't make the show any more exciting, people the title is just a prop to ignite a feud. Cena is the most charismatic, over guy that gets the best crowd reaction. People care about him one way or the other. It makes sense for him to be the champ. Maybe if there was no roster split the WWE wouldn't have gone this long with it. However it is 2 hours a week where Cena is champ. There are another 3 hours with 2 different champions. If you don't like Cena you can go watch ECW or Smackdown safe in the knowledge that the title changes hands more often. He has not been shoved down our throats because he isn't on every brand. There are 2 different brands if you don't like Cena as champ. Yes, but he is still the focal point of the company. No matter what show you may want to watch, they will still show him in some capacity (even if it's just highlights of what happened on Raw). The point is, if he was not the champion, and was booked to not constantly be in the main event picture, there would at least be a breath of fresh air in the WWE championship scene. Not saying that is necessarily good or bad, but it is something DIFFERENT. People like HHH, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Flair, Booker T, and to a lesser extent Steve Austin and The Rock could be away from the title scene for a while, and still be considered top guys. I think that is what irritates a lot of fans. How can you say he isn't pushed down our throats? I mean, whenever you have a guy who constantly wins, it's kinda like saying, "Hey, this is the guy you should be cheering for or supporting. He's good. He never loses his title...even when he clearly should have." I think less people buy the "beat the odds everytime" champion thing like they may have 11 years ago when HBK was champ. Your statement about just watching the other brands is flawed, because everybody knows that they always treat the Raw belt like the most important, prestigious belt anyway, so what does that tell you about the guy who has been holding it for every month this year? He is the most important champion. Probably a big reason why he got drafted to Raw a couple years ago in the first place. Besides, he has made appearances on ECW and Smackdown! before. Is he the most charismatic? I don't know. I'm just saying, why not maybe try to have someone else hold the main title for a bit, just to see how it works. I mean, when half of the audience is booing the top FACE champion, I think it means there is something wrong. They think it means he's 'controversial'. |
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