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Post by The Line on Jul 22, 2007 21:00:04 GMT -5
Does Dutt work indies still? I wouldn't pay for his injuries either if there is a chance it happened while he was earning a paycheck elsewhere. If he did it while working in a TNA ring, that company is complete garbage. according to this, in the past 2 months, he's worked only 3 non-TNA dates, the last one being the 8th, and he's since worked 2 TNA tapings(one TV, one PPV) since then. Odds are, it happened in TNA
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Post by Shy Guy on Jul 22, 2007 21:52:37 GMT -5
Does Dutt work indies still? I wouldn't pay for his injuries either if there is a chance it happened while he was earning a paycheck elsewhere. If he did it while working in a TNA ring, that company is complete garbage. according to this, in the past 2 months, he's worked only 3 non-TNA dates, the last one being the 8th, and he's since worked 2 TNA tapings(one TV, one PPV) since then. Odds are, it happened in TNA worked 2 in may, uwa shows.
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Post by mrjerkybigbucks on Jul 22, 2007 22:56:12 GMT -5
maybe no one has noticed but sonjays shoulder has been taped up since he's been in tna..
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Post by robferatu on Jul 23, 2007 1:44:10 GMT -5
Part of me really wants to see TNA go under, just because the way they treat there talent.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jul 23, 2007 1:50:08 GMT -5
Part of me really wants to see TNA go under, just because the way they treat there talent. Same here, just kind of one of those "ya know if you hadn't been such a-holes to your talent maybe you'd still be around" cautionary tales.
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Post by samachine on Jul 23, 2007 1:50:30 GMT -5
As one of Bernard's biggest fans, I know the guy fairly well from meetings, interviews, etc. The stuff being posted below him being in talks would make him not want to work with TNA, he's a real nice guy and hates to hear about other people being mistreated, plus I'd just rather not see him in TNA, though it would be nice to see the big man on TV,.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Jul 23, 2007 2:41:30 GMT -5
Part of me really wants to see TNA go under, just because the way they treat there talent. Same here, just kind of one of those "ya know if you hadn't been such a-holes to your talent maybe you'd still be around" cautionary tales. But on the other hand, them going out of business could hurt some of the talent with regards to them being able to make a living and staying in wrestling, so it flips both ways
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Post by Nite-Owl Marks For Bloc Party on Jul 23, 2007 2:43:48 GMT -5
As one of Bernard's biggest fans, I know the guy fairly well from meetings, interviews, etc. The stuff being posted below him being in talks would make him not want to work with TNA, he's a real nice guy and hates to hear about other people being mistreated, plus I'd just rather not see him in TNA, though it would be nice to see the big man on TV,. Plus he'll make Abyss look tiny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2007 16:43:55 GMT -5
Part of me really wants to see TNA go under, just because the way they treat there talent. If every company that treated their employees bad went out of business...
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 25, 2007 10:21:11 GMT -5
According to some morons on this thread...there's really only one solution for TNA's health/surgery problems..."just pay for it!!!, OMG, c'mon!!! TNA is the Devilz!!!!"
Realistically, the only solution for TNA paying for their workers' health problems only comes in two parts....
A) Forbid their low-paid workers (like Sanjay) from working indy dates. That way, TNA can KNOW those guys were injured on their watch. Even better....this way, those guys can figure out how to make a real living off of $600-a-month, minus expenses (which is impossible).
B) Then, strictly blood-test TNA veterans (Konnan) who may have destroyed their major organs over the past 20+years in the business, whether it be through steroids, painkillers, alcohol, or other drugs...all used while working for OTHER employers. Then, they can blindly dole out money for their MAJOR, uninsured surgeries...no questions asked.
TNA isn't like WWE. Vince McMahon doesn't let John Cena show up to work wrestling matches at a high school in West Virginia on his off-nights. Unlike WWE, TNA gives their workers "some" freedom, but with that freedom comes certain responsibility.
If you're a grown man and you can't pay for health insurance, maybe you should get a real job and stop sucking off the teets of the wrestling business....just a thought. Most of the stuff on this thread defies the logic of business, science, and most importantly, COMMON SENSE.
Wrestlers live in the real world, too. Just like us. Health Insurance is expensive. "Independent Contractors" (like TNA and WWE wrestlers DO NOT receive company health insurance...it's out of their pocket).
If TNA even "loaned" anybody for surgery they weren't responsible, they're probably kinder than many of us with our own money.
PS: And before any of you ROH-ist fans chime in, I DARE you to reply that Gabe would actually hire Raven for a year or two...then agree to pay out of company pocket for his liver or kidney transplant from damages sustained since 1987 or before. I DARE YOU.
PPS: WWE does have all of the above responsibilites, because even though their workers are "independent contractors" like TNA, most aren't allowed to "work" anywhere else. And if anyone even brings up Booker T's PWA or whatever promotion, they're an idiot.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 25, 2007 12:59:04 GMT -5
It's a good point. I guess sometimes we are quick to take a side without reviewing all of the details.
I would love to see Bernard stateside, but I feel he'd be better off in WWE. He knows plenty of people there still, and TNA hasn't been particularly great at using Abyss. Why bring in a new beast?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 25, 2007 13:39:39 GMT -5
At least WCW took care of their injured talent. Konnan got a loan for his hip surgery, they left him out to dry on his kidney operation. On that note, he is having the replacement done on Monday in Mexico from what I have read. AAA will hopefully help him out, or fans. By the way, wouldn't it be awesome in WWE payed Dutt for surgery, and payed Konnan's loan, just to rub it TNA's face? "This is how small you are. We can afford to help people." Rey *might* be able to get some help for Konnan, though it would likely be in the form of WWE allowing guys to work a benefit show for him. The Dutt thing is stupid, and will encourage guys considering TNA to turn to ROH, AAA, Japan, or JTTS status in the WWE instead. Who wants to work for someone that will not take care of you after hurting yourself in their ring, especially when there are other options that would?
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Post by Reverend BTY on Jul 25, 2007 13:57:10 GMT -5
PPS: And if anyone even brings up Booker T's PWA or whatever promotion, they're an idiot. King Booker's PWA Promotion. Am I an idiot just for saying it random guy that makes 5 posts? Anyway, onto the subject, I don't see why TNA can do a loan situation for Dutt like they did for Konnan and Ron Killings. I mean, wouldn't that be a win-win situation? Also, I'd love to see Giant Bernard in any US company. As long as I can see him on my TV kicking ass, I'd be happy.
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Post by Error on Jul 25, 2007 14:13:54 GMT -5
A) Forbid their low-paid workers (like Sanjay) from working indy dates. That way, TNA can KNOW those guys were injured on their watch. Even better....this way, those guys can figure out how to make a real living off of $600-a-month, minus expenses (which is impossible). From what I have read, they can't work anywhere they want. TNA books them when and where TNA want and takes a cut of their pay as a booking fee. So these guys are injured on TNA's watch, just not in a TNA ring.
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Post by hollywood on Jul 25, 2007 14:21:22 GMT -5
PS: And before any of you ROH-ist fans chime in, I DARE you to reply that Gabe would actually hire Raven for a year or two...then agree to pay out of company pocket for his liver or kidney transplant from damages sustained since 1987 or before. I DARE YOU. Ok. Gabe would actually hire Raven for a year or two...then agree to pay out of company pocket for his liver or kidney transplant from damages sustained since 1987 or before. ;D
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Post by Joekishi on Jul 25, 2007 14:29:27 GMT -5
A) Forbid their low-paid workers (like Sanjay) from working indy dates. That way, TNA can KNOW those guys were injured on their watch. Even better....this way, those guys can figure out how to make a real living off of $600-a-month, minus expenses (which is impossible). From what I have read, they can't work anywhere they want. TNA books them when and where TNA want and takes a cut of their pay as a booking fee. So these guys are injured on TNA's watch, just not in a TNA ring. Pretty much that is the contract that TNA has signed most of their talent too, hell Jay LEthal's been working Black Machismo in the indies he's been booked on. So you can't say it wasn't under the TNA banner, when they booked him for the show.
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Post by mrjerkybigbucks on Jul 25, 2007 19:03:46 GMT -5
*Ahem* Has anyone noticed that sonjay's shoulder has been taped up for ever?
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Jul 26, 2007 3:15:25 GMT -5
TNA isn't like WWE. Vince McMahon doesn't let John Cena show up to work wrestling matches at a high school in West Virginia on his off-nights. Didn't Vince and John Cena work a show at a high school gym this year, where Cena gave him the FU?
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 26, 2007 3:38:45 GMT -5
TNA isn't like WWE. Vince McMahon doesn't let John Cena show up to work wrestling matches at a high school in West Virginia on his off-nights. Didn't Vince and John Cena work a show at a high school gym this year, where Cena gave him the FU? yeah they did, it was for Cena's father promotion
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