RAW sucks

[Mozenrath]

basicboogeynomix said:

chuckymac314 said:

I pretty much watch Raw for Cody Rhodes and DH Smith at this point, as well as the occasional Jeff Hardy and Kennedy bit that I enjoy.

I think the booking has been better in recent times than it has for the past couple of months.

Though I really am not interested at all in Orton as champ, the main things I'm watching for are Santino, the Divas, and Umaga/Triple H. The tag matches also always bring quality.

Quoted for parts I agree with wholeheartedly.

I've been watching because, besides about 5 minutes of Diva Search, and the Hornwoggle stuff, I'm interested in what Raw's done.

I'm glad the London/Kendrick Vs. Cade/Murdoch feud is heating up, and the stupid Highlanders aren't around to kill it.

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I'll agree, but there is also certain aspects of the product that I enjoy.

Hornswoggle is something that makes Raw unwatchable. I thought the initial 'Who is Mr. McMahon's illegitimate child?' storyline wasn't too bad (despite major continuity errors), but they could've done something more with it than making his "son" as comedy character. I still think it should've been Mr. Kennedy, which would've made a lot more sense and it would've also given the show a new main-eventer to work with. I would've liked to have seen Kennedy evolve into a "McMahon", feuding with Triple H until WrestleMania.

Saying that, though, I'm pretty sick with Triple H. It's the same act, over and over. Same with Umaga. I'd like to see something different from both of them.

Otherwise, Raw hasn't been too bad. I still think they should build more on the undercard instead of making them look like fools (for example, Triple H destroying Londrick for no particular reason), but Cena's injury, while unfortunate, has possibly opened doors for Kennedy and Jeff Hardy, along with Randy Orton. They should try and do more with Carlito, though, as I believe he can be a credible upper-midcarder.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

am90 said:

I'll agree, but there is also certain aspects of the product that I enjoy.

Hornswoggle is something that makes Raw unwatchable. I thought the initial 'Who is Mr. McMahon's illegitimate child?' storyline wasn't too bad (despite major continuity errors), but they could've done something more with it than making his "son" as comedy character. I still think it should've been Mr. Kennedy, which would've made a lot more sense and it would've also given the show a new main-eventer to work with. I would've liked to have seen Kennedy evolve into a "McMahon", feuding with Triple H until WrestleMania.

Saying that, though, I'm pretty sick with Triple H. It's the same act, over and over. Same with Umaga. I'd like to see something different from both of them.

Otherwise, Raw hasn't been too bad. I still think they should build more on the undercard instead of making them look like fools (for example, Triple H destroying Londrick for no particular reason), but Cena's injury, while unfortunate, has possibly opened doors for Kennedy and Jeff Hardy, along with Randy Orton. They should try and do more with Carlito, though, as I believe he can be a credible upper-midcarder.

Agree with you mostly, but I find FACE Hornswoggle to be unwatchable- not in general. I know that they were likely going to be tempted to showcase him more after he got over as Finlay's crony, but they went overboard.

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radioclash5150 said:

am90 said:

I'll agree, but there is also certain aspects of the product that I enjoy.

Hornswoggle is something that makes Raw unwatchable. I thought the initial 'Who is Mr. McMahon's illegitimate child?' storyline wasn't too bad (despite major continuity errors), but they could've done something more with it than making his "son" as comedy character. I still think it should've been Mr. Kennedy, which would've made a lot more sense and it would've also given the show a new main-eventer to work with. I would've liked to have seen Kennedy evolve into a "McMahon", feuding with Triple H until WrestleMania.

Saying that, though, I'm pretty sick with Triple H. It's the same act, over and over. Same with Umaga. I'd like to see something different from both of them.

Otherwise, Raw hasn't been too bad. I still think they should build more on the undercard instead of making them look like fools (for example, Triple H destroying Londrick for no particular reason), but Cena's injury, while unfortunate, has possibly opened doors for Kennedy and Jeff Hardy, along with Randy Orton. They should try and do more with Carlito, though, as I believe he can be a credible upper-midcarder.

Agree with you mostly, but I find FACE Hornswoggle to be unwatchable- not in general. I know that they were likely going to be tempted to showcase him more after he got over as Finlay's crony, but they went overboard.

Next to Finlay, he was fine. He was a minor character that was used to entertain the kids, and I was cool with that.

But a major part of Raw? No way. Especially when they could've done something productive with the angle he was put into.

[humorousled]

Raw isn't that interesting to me at all right now. There is too much garbage going on the show (Hornswaggle, Diva search, way too much Vince and Triple H in general, and Orton being boring again), but, there are some good things going on the show. But even those things are getting old fast. I mean how many times can Santino make fun of Austin's terrible movie before Austin comes out and stuns him and then "stomps a mud hole in him and walks it dry"? It was funny at first but as always with WWE, they beat the idea to death and now we are just waiting for Austin's guest shot. Mr. Kennedy is a compelling character and I like the feud with him and Jeff Hardy but it feels like Kennedy does the same thing over and over so his effect is weakened. And they should have pulled the trigger on Jericho sooner, especially once it became clear that the save us__222 campaign was for Jericho. WWE has forgotten how to give the fans what they want and only give us what they are telling us that we want (which is what ever Vince likes) as if we have to do as Vince says and like all of his ideas. At this rate, if another promotion rose up with a better product on Mondays (TNA or some other promotion), WWE would be reduced down to an afterthought. Especially now that Vince doesn't have anyone to copy or steal from anymore.

[Metalheadbanger Man]

RAW has been improving a bit lately - it was total crap not long ago but now they seem to be having more matches and giving mid-carders more TV time for promos and backstage segments, which is encouraging.

SmackDown and ECW are still light years ahead of it though.

[BHB]

lenny said:

Raw has been pretty bad lately in my opinion also, but I do know the reasons why i haven't tuned out altogether.

This guy:

I agree, but it's really quite sad that a stereotypical comedy character is the highlight of the show.

[gimmieabreakbrain]

I watch Raw till about 9:30, lol that's when I start to fall asleep. I don't watch the "main event" i like the undercard more than anything. Santino, Carlito, Mickie, and whatnot. Orton, HBK, HHH all put me to sleep.

[Christianv2]

Ive missed ECW/SD for the last month and havent cared. I even tuned in and it was Kane vs. Khali and I just got bored with the show. RAW though Im really entertained actually as of late.

[King Fox -1017 Bricksquad]

I like Raw.

[Big Daddy Bad Booking]

I'm also watching the old RAWS from the MNW on 24.7. This product now doesn't feel as special anymore, and worse of all, it feels PREDICABLE. I mean, you have a European title match between Bulldog and Owen, and then the next minute, a reformation of the Hart Foundation!

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

katievick said:

I'm also watching the old RAWS from the MNW on 24.7. This product now doesn't feel as special anymore, and worse of all, it feels PREDICABLE. I mean, you have a European title match between Bulldog and Owen, and then the next minute, a reformation of the Hart Foundation!

Yeah, a lot of my wrestling input nowdays is 24/7 related (don't keep up with indies much). I watch a lot of the current shows solely for Wrestlecrap discussion now.

[Jake, The Jake, Jake]

Wow, I really think raw has been a hell of a lot better lately, especially the main event scene. I think Orton is doing an awesome job as champ, Kennedy is still great, Jeff Hardy is getting pushed, HBK can still put on great matches, and there's no Cena. Plus the midcard is pretty sweet, with Londrick, Cade, Murdoch, Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly, WGTT, Beth, and Candice. Hornswaggle and Coach's antics are all good fun, and say what you want about Triple H, but he's still one of the best in the business. You guys are right about the diva search, but at least its not taking up as much of the show as it has in previous years. Also, Raw has Santino, so it is instantly awesome.

Whew, I'm tired now.

[Just Jay]

Wow. Am I the only one who likes all three wrestling shows right now? I mean, its a lot funner if you don't think about it.

I don't know, I really like all three of them Sure they're not super awesome wrestling pack shwos ll the time, but I really enjoy so. Hm.

[Drillbit Taylor]

I happen to like Raw. Its very entertaining.

[King Rich]

I only watch RAW to:

a) make fun of it in the RAW thread
b) complain about boring segments in the RAW thread
c) complain about gaps in logic in the RAW thread



















and d) criticise other people's stupid/pointless posts in the RAW thread. Like a vigilante.