HRH The KING
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 5, 2007 2:24:30 GMT -5
That's a good point.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Nov 5, 2007 5:04:20 GMT -5
so glad you posted. i don't know what this place would be like were it not for your important opinion. i agree with the initial post. i'm still not a fan of the new ECW, but it's not as far off as people want to think. mcmahon is automatically evil no matter what he does. |
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knightboat
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Post by knightboat on Nov 5, 2007 6:38:39 GMT -5
The original poster is correct on his points, the original ECW is definitely romatnicized beyond what it was and there were similarities between original ECW events and D2D. However, D2D didn't have the original ECW feel, and Heyman did do a great job of booking, he made his mistakes like anyone else, but he did some great things. I mean even thinking of the later years and the wrestlers returns were so much more than they were now, I mean Sandman's return, and especially Raven's return winning the tag titles with Dreamer, compare that with Shawn Michaels return, it was a surprise, but was it really that huge?
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Nov 5, 2007 9:22:57 GMT -5
With all this talk on Paul E.. I just have to say this. Paul did exactly what a booker should do and that was rely on the talent he had. Paul would say "This is what I want, can you give it to me?", they'd say yes and they'd come up with the promos, the matches, etc. If an angle was rather big, I'm sure Paul was involved more and calling more of the shots... but he put trust in his talent because he knew they were capable of doing it.
To me, Paul is a head coach. When you're a touchdown down, and you're in the two minute drill on offense.. the head coach takes the reigns. Otherwise, he knows that he put together a staff he can trust to let him focus on other aspects of the company.
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Agent P
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Post by Agent P on Nov 5, 2007 11:28:05 GMT -5
I'm truly amazed that so many people agreed with the first poster on this. I figured this would be 8 pages of potshots by now. As the first poster, I am somewhat shocked about that myself. |
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 5, 2007 11:29:22 GMT -5
So people who complain about D2D are really complaining about it not living up to the standard of WWE PPVs, not ECW PPVs?
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 5, 2007 11:31:57 GMT -5
So people who complain about D2D are really complaining about it not living up to the standard of WWE PPVs, not ECW PPVs? My complaint was that the show was terrible in terms of booking. For me it wasn't really comparing it to the old ECW, I felt I didn't get my money's worth for a glorified longer version of ECW on Sci-Fi TV Taping. |
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Post by joeman on Nov 5, 2007 11:33:33 GMT -5
The show was terrible as there was two cards that was planned and the rest felt like a regular ECW tv taping.
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 5, 2007 11:35:02 GMT -5
My complaint was that the show was terrible in terms of booking. For me it wasn't really comparing it to the old ECW, I felt I didn't get my money's worth for a glorified longer version of ECW on Sci-Fi TV Taping. I guess this is why all WWE PPVs are cross-brand now. |
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 5, 2007 11:36:28 GMT -5
My complaint was that the show was terrible in terms of booking. For me it wasn't really comparing it to the old ECW, I felt I didn't get my money's worth for a glorified longer version of ECW on Sci-Fi TV Taping. I guess this is why all WWE PPVs are cross-brand now. I guess so, but Raw and SD had stronger rosters than ECW did, so they could pull off a single brand PPV, as they have been for a few years now. |
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JD Turk
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Post by JD Turk on Nov 5, 2007 11:50:24 GMT -5
I didnt see it as a bad ECW ppv, I saw it as an atrocious WWE ppv...no matter how you slice it, nobody wants to campare the WWECW with ECW...at least i don't.
Also, One Night Stand wasnt made to be an authentic ECW PPV, it was purely nostalgic as many of the guys havent wrestled on the same show in years..it was strictly just to make fans happy.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 5, 2007 11:59:37 GMT -5
In ECW, it worked. Because it was different. People weren't expected to know what was happening, thus, it got people excited.
In the 21st Century, with a new audience, you should NEVER not tell people the full card of a PPV. I barely knew anyone who was excited about a two match card.
It's sort of like saying to the fans 'We don't know what the hell we're doing with this at all'
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