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Post by britishbulldog on Nov 5, 2007 13:24:13 GMT -5
Best BikerTaker quote. I May not dress like the devil anymore. But I damn sure know where to find him. or something close to that. "I may not dress like Satan anymore, but I'm still down with the devil." Thank you for the correction. Still the best deadman quote ever
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Post by BHB on Nov 5, 2007 13:29:45 GMT -5
I like Taker how he is now. As biker taker he was fat with poor work rate and wrestled in jeans.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 5, 2007 14:35:44 GMT -5
Think that's done. If he's on his way towards retiring, the spooky spooky gimmick would be the one he'd want to leave with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 18:10:20 GMT -5
Think that's done. If he's on his way towards retiring, the spooky spooky gimmick would be the one he'd want to leave with. actually years ago when he was still biker taker he said he wanted to stay as that for the rest of his career.
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Post by Garee on Nov 5, 2007 18:16:41 GMT -5
No, I'm fine with him ending his career with the deadman gimmick
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Post by CosmicPool on Nov 5, 2007 18:16:53 GMT -5
No thanks. Undertaker morphing into Bikertaker is one of those WTF? decisions I'll never understand... You want to keep the character fresh, ok, fine. Wanna change the look and the gimmick? Go for it. But CHANGE THE NAME!!! He's a biker now, not a mortician/demon/cult leader/Satan incarnation, stop referring to him as "Undertaker". When Luger became "Your American Hero" they stopped calling him "the Narcissist"... Just cause you're a biker doesn't mean you can't call yourself Undertaker, sounds like a perfectly acceptable biker name to me from a bunch of guys who call themselves names such as Psycho, Blade, and other stereotypical biker names. I think he should just do what the hell he wants, depending on what the situation is. Just act normal most of the time like he was right up until Ministry Undertaker but still wear the dark clothing and stuff and if the situation calls for playing mind games and all just start acting like the deadman with the fog and dark blue lighting effects. For big events like Wrestlemania, use the dark lighting, fog and awesome entrance. I think for his normal music he should use the music he had before the Ministry music. I think a lot of people called him Gothataker or something. It's kinda like in old WCW that night that Wolfpac Sting got really pissed off at Giant and Scott Hall for beating up Lex Luger and reverted back to silent Sting with b&w paint and scary music and beat the crap out of them.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Nov 5, 2007 19:30:29 GMT -5
Hey having Undertaker as a human biker is kind of a cool idea,but FOR THE LOVE OF HOGAN STOP CALLING HIM THE UNDERTAKER!!
Seriously,"At 6'11 300 lbs THE AMERICAN BAD-@$$....MARK CALLOUS!"
Hmm,doesn't sound half bad.
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Post by TRMcGillicutty on Nov 5, 2007 19:54:31 GMT -5
I loved BikerTaker. He was a helluva good promo man and it made him way more interesting than he was as the "dead" Taker.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 5, 2007 20:00:48 GMT -5
American Badass Taker sold. 1 more reason he rocked. Not only that but I really doubt a zombie would use the triangle choke. My two cents.
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Post by Loki on Nov 5, 2007 20:15:55 GMT -5
Just cause you're a biker doesn't mean you can't call yourself Undertaker, sounds like a perfectly acceptable biker name to me from a bunch of guys who call themselves names such as Psycho, Blade, and other stereotypical biker names. For the last time: the name itself was ok, very fitting for a Biker if you wish, and it'd have been more than fine for a NEWCOMER! But having the same guy who had been The Undertaker in all his "supernatural/sinister" incarnations for TEN YEARS come out like a regular biker, still calling him Undertaker and without dramatically altering his looks is non-sensical. Just imagine Umaga resurfacing in a month, without facepaint, with a different haircut, playing a sumo wrestler and speaking fluent English. All that keeping the name Umaga... Hell, Triple H's (insane) metamorphosis from blueblood to Cerebral Assassin had some sort of sense and evolution. He didn't changed "overnight"... It's not a matter of liking/disliking Mark Calloway or the Undertaker or BikerTaker. It's a matter of logic, even in the wacky logic of pro-wrestling.
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Post by CosmicPool on Nov 6, 2007 21:58:35 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if he has a clown gimmick, he's always gonna be called Undertaker or Taker to me. Hell, I doubt most people even call him Mark in the back, they probably call him Taker. Plus it wasn't a month, it was several months that he was away from a groin injury, and he did change his looks to get away from the deadman gimmick, he cut his hair.
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Post by tennesseetitan on Nov 7, 2007 1:46:19 GMT -5
I remember when he first changed, I thought it would suck real bad, but the American Bad Ass was awesome.
This last reincarnation of the "Deadman" kind of sucks to me.
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Post by flea on Nov 7, 2007 2:09:00 GMT -5
this thread:
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Post by macdaddysquid on Nov 7, 2007 2:25:08 GMT -5
Just cause you're a biker doesn't mean you can't call yourself Undertaker, sounds like a perfectly acceptable biker name to me from a bunch of guys who call themselves names such as Psycho, Blade, and other stereotypical biker names. For the last time: the name itself was ok, very fitting for a Biker if you wish, and it'd have been more than fine for a NEWCOMER! But having the same guy who had been The Undertaker in all his "supernatural/sinister" incarnations for TEN YEARS come out like a regular biker, still calling him Undertaker and without dramatically altering his looks is non-sensical. Just imagine Umaga resurfacing in a month, without facepaint, with a different haircut, playing a sumo wrestler and speaking fluent English. All that keeping the name Umaga... Hell, Triple H's (insane) metamorphosis from blueblood to Cerebral Assassin had some sort of sense and evolution. He didn't changed "overnight"... It's not a matter of liking/disliking Mark Calloway or the Undertaker or BikerTaker. It's a matter of logic, even in the wacky logic of pro-wrestling. I think it would be much worse if he came back and they ignored the fact he was Taker
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2007 2:28:33 GMT -5
I loved BikerTaker. I didn't care that it was a complete blind left turn away from the character we knew because he was totally kickass. Yep. For a guy whose thing as not talking and not selling, he's actually quite good at both.
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 7, 2007 2:52:39 GMT -5
Undertaker should never have reverted to the Dead Man-Lite gimmick.
The biker gimmick was more entertaining.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2007 2:53:28 GMT -5
I LOVED heel Bikertaker.
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Post by deadmanlfc on Nov 7, 2007 3:51:51 GMT -5
Deadman = Awesome American Bad Ass = Awesome Big Evil = Awesome
Man, Taker could come out dressed as the Gooker himself and still rule
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 7, 2007 4:31:21 GMT -5
Just cause you're a biker doesn't mean you can't call yourself Undertaker, sounds like a perfectly acceptable biker name to me from a bunch of guys who call themselves names such as Psycho, Blade, and other stereotypical biker names. For the last time: the name itself was ok, very fitting for a Biker if you wish, and it'd have been more than fine for a NEWCOMER! But having the same guy who had been The Undertaker in all his "supernatural/sinister" incarnations for TEN YEARS come out like a regular biker, still calling him Undertaker and without dramatically altering his looks is non-sensical. Just imagine Umaga resurfacing in a month, without facepaint, with a different haircut, playing a sumo wrestler and speaking fluent English. All that keeping the name Umaga... Hell, Triple H's (insane) metamorphosis from blueblood to Cerebral Assassin had some sort of sense and evolution. He didn't changed "overnight"... It's not a matter of liking/disliking Mark Calloway or the Undertaker or BikerTaker. It's a matter of logic, even in the wacky logic of pro-wrestling. This is pretty much my point of view too. I mean, a little explanation as to why he gave up the "Deadman" look would have been nice. Like maybe, I dunno, have him get beat down, and develope amnesia and fall in with a local biker gang or something....ANYTHING to explain why all of a sudden someone would undergo such a drastic change of character. I know amnesia angles suck pretty bad, but it would have been some sort of explanation for the change. I liken it to Steve Austin being out for a few weeks and coming back with a Goldust-like blonde wig and calling himself "Stunning" Steve Austin again.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2007 4:32:00 GMT -5
I wonder why Taker never does his Dragon Sleeper anymore.
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