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Post by Jared Has Been Enlightened :) on Nov 8, 2007 17:55:13 GMT -5
The Attitude Era was wild, unpredictable, eventful and therefor exciting. Todays product is boring, predictable, and stale.
Everything that happened in the Attitude Era had a storyline behind it. From the top of the card on down to the opening. Today's product barely has storylines for the horrid main event scene, let alone the midcard or God forbid the lower card.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Nov 8, 2007 17:55:36 GMT -5
Attitude is better than today because it was a better sell.
It could work today with the exact same wrestlers, but only if it was executed the same.
But, Attitude is gone, and I think that a new era is on the horizon.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Nov 8, 2007 18:10:51 GMT -5
I would never say that the Attitude era was free of wrestlecrap and had nothing wrong with it, because it surely did. Some of the most infamous WC inductions probably came from the MNW era. It's just that the era of Attitude was apparently what the world of wrestling needed, and it's what the masses wanted. It's not that it the Attitude era had better quality matches or better storylines or anything -- but it gave the viewers exactly what they wanted after 15 years of stale family based TV.
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Post by Dick Foley on Nov 8, 2007 18:19:18 GMT -5
Its funny that people think the "Attitude" era is overrated when the majority of people here started watching wrestling because of it. During the Attitude era the ratings on RAW were better than some prime time network shows. Now Raw is barely in the top 5 shows on cable.
The real biggest difference between today's wrestlers and the Attitude era's wrestlers is chrisma. Today's wrestlers just lack it. They make the product very bland and boring. Who actually can pay attention to some of the promos these kids cut today? Austin, Rock and Foley could have you on the edge of your seat for 10-20 minutes if they needed to. Thats what makes people care about wrestlers and wrestling matches.
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Post by Man Hating Horace on Nov 8, 2007 18:22:26 GMT -5
and worst of all vince being world heavyweight champion now remember when vince won the ecw title the iwc acted like hed raped their grandmother and thats only 3rd most important belt in the company at best. It's surprising that Vince winning the "ECW" title would get such a reaction. You'd think since most people no longer associate the WWECW with the original ECW, they'd also disassociate the current "ECW" title with the one defended in the old ECW.
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Post by big nasty on Nov 8, 2007 18:39:46 GMT -5
Its funny that people think the "Attitude" era is overrated when the majority of people here started watching wrestling because of it. During the Attitude era the ratings on RAW were better than some prime time network shows. Now Raw is barely in the top 5 shows on cable. The real biggest difference between today's wrestlers and the Attitude era's wrestlers is chrisma. Today's wrestlers just lack it. They make the product very bland and boring. Who actually can pay attention to some of the promos these kids cut today? Austin, Rock and Foley could have you on the edge of your seat for 10-20 minutes if they needed to. Thats what makes people care about wrestlers and wrestling matches. i think you hit it. charisma > all else when it comes to wrestling. i guy can have charisma without being great on the mic, too. a strong silent type like benoit. charisma makes you care about what a person does. in the 80's i cared what happened savage, hogan, and even warrior, tito, demolition, earthquake, etc. i got back into wrestling in the late 90's and besides ECW and WCW, i cared what happened with austin, the rock, taker and kane, even mcmahon, val venis, and many more. right now, santino, a little cade and murdoch (mostly murdoch), but none of the other newer generation really make me want to care about them. i still watch cause i love wrestling, but the current WWE is a little short on personality.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 8, 2007 19:06:44 GMT -5
I like how everything seemed real. Surew cry for kayfabe all you want, but at the time it was refreshing that the WWE said "Ok, listen it IS fake, but least it's entertaining!".
I miss "real" gimmicks like Rock and Ken Shamrock. There were no cowboys, do-wop throwbacks, or leprechauns. They basically thought of depth beyond "Isn't an Asian in a cowboy hat funny?". Even Val Venis(great, solid midcard worker by the way), while silly, was given a chance to kinda give nods to how ridiculous his gimmick was. That's the difference, the WWE back then seemed to have a sense of humor about itself.
The McMahons WERE fresh. The Attitude Era McMahons were fun and once again seemed like a real storyline. Are they overplayed now? God yes.
Was it overhyped? Sure I remember a lot of RAWS back then that were heavy on "sports entertainment" and lax on wrestling, however I can't say it was truly overrated as we got a LOT of big stars from it, and success speaks for itself, it was the highest point wrestling has reached so far.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Nov 8, 2007 23:42:56 GMT -5
How many threads are we going to have on our beloved Attitude Era?
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Nov 8, 2007 23:53:13 GMT -5
The shows were more interesting, everyone on the roster had something to do, And like someone earlier said, The amounts of charisma all the main eventers had back then was just amazing. Sure it got a little silly at times and there wasn't as much actual wrestling, but I don't care, personally. No this is not childhood nostalgia, I was in my early 20's during the Era, and started watching WWF in the mid 80's. There are very few things in life that have come and gone that I can honestly say that I miss, and the Attitude Era is one of them.
Attitude Era>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>present.
I am really hoping one day for a "Best of The Attitude Era" DVD set. Make it happen Vince! But get YOUR logo back first!
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Nov 9, 2007 0:59:45 GMT -5
The ATTITUDE era was probably the BEST era in WWE, IMO. Each episode seemed like it FLEW by, and I couldn't WAIT to see what would happen the following week.
Current WWE has a couple of good moments per show, but for the most part, episodes seem like they drag on for an hour or two longer than they actually are.
ATTITUDE>>>>>>>>>CURRENT ERA
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Nov 9, 2007 1:53:27 GMT -5
Attitude is much better then the trash we have now.But that isn't saying anything. It turned one of my childhood memories,the WWF into bottom of the barrel soap opera trash and turned wrestling into a joke. It single handedly killed most if not all my interest in wrestling, until recently.
And I'll agree.Everyone flocked to Spice Girls concerts,but in the long run was it good for the music industry?
Where does the Attitude Era leave us?They've done every story imaginable,they've done every character.This is 2007,people can't be offended anymore.They can't be surprised.Can't be shocked. They've seen everything! Why go to a magician if you know all the tricks?!
All the talk about a new golden age or a new attitude era is rubbish. Their is nothing left to offer.Nothing will happen. All the Attitude Era has left us is the decline of wrestling.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 9, 2007 11:01:35 GMT -5
I definitely agree on this: summer 1997 and late 2000-early 2001 WWF was better than anything I saw from 1998-early 2000.
In the months before the Invasion happened, WWF was putting on some of it's best shows of all time, with a very wrestling-centric product, AND a lot of interesting characters.
Again, when I look back on 1998-early 2000, all I can think to myself is "You liked this because your hormones were just waking up". I honestly get uncomfortable now when I see footage of Foley falling off the cage.
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Post by amsiraK on Nov 9, 2007 11:04:18 GMT -5
It was definitely the effort put forth that made a difference. They had competition and had to actually work at the product.
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