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Post by FCVDave on Oct 31, 2007 17:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by franchisedavis on Oct 31, 2007 20:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by tonyexile on Oct 31, 2007 20:09:57 GMT -5
i can assure you alot of people where not too happy about that newsday report claiming jericho's return which shockingly he did'nt. I usually take all INTRAWEBZ NEWZ sites info with a grain of salt, however there may be some validity to the reports that Jericho was supposed to have already debuted however once WWE found out the story of him being SAVE_US.222 leaked, they pushed the return back. This makes sense for several reasons- - If everyone knows Jericho is debuting on a particular day, the element of "shock and surprise" it appears the SAVE_US campaign was designed to create dissapears.
- Continually holding him back may piss some smarks off, but if you recall in wrestling, some of the best debuts, feuds, etc. were the ones that were built up the longest. As RD said in Death of WCW, WCW had fans "salivating like Pavlov's dogs" to see Sting vs. Hogan at Starrcade 97'.
Same with SAVE_US. Even if you say "oh, I'm just getting sick of it anyway", the second Jericho comes back to Raw, you will mark the smurf out like a schoolgirl. Don't lie, you will.
- Since it's now pretty much confirmed who SAVE_US is, the only thing left in suspense is when he will appear on WWE TV. See where I'm going here? If you don't know when Jericho is coming back - guess what? You have to watch Raw every single week.
I know some of you don't care, but the majority of us (me included) would feel like a pretty big d-bag if the one time we said "eh, nothing will happen on Raw so I'll just watch something else" and Jericho made a huge return.
This is only a partial list, but those are the ones I thought were most pertinent. To be honest, I don't know if I would have liked Jericho's return as much if the SAVE_US videos ran and were only mentioned once on Raw by JR and King and all of a sudden he just shows up. I actually like what they're doing in previously the SAVE_US video would appear once on Raw and have no mention. This past week it appeared twice. What I'm hoping for is there will be a continual increase in the number of SAVE_US promos and it will be acknowledged on screen as more and more speculation is built up. Then, Jericho returns following one of the promos. Many of you smarks are pampered in that after readin TEH NEWZ sites you know everything that's going to happen on a show anyway. Spoilers, backstage rumors, etc. The beauty of SAVE_US is that none of us really have any idea when the payoff will be and while I can see that frustrates some of you, it's brilliant marketing by WWE. They are essentially telling us "you need and want to see the payoff for this and we aren't telling you when it is so you will just have to keep watching our shows every week until we pay it off". And they're 100% right. very well said. thank you.
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Post by kingofdeathmatch on Nov 1, 2007 4:20:20 GMT -5
just wondering if anyone was looking at Jericho's own website recently? Just above where it says "Click On The Image Below To Pre-Order Your Copy Today", there are 3 "C"'s hidden in the background.
That may be old news to ye, I just didnt see anyone comment on it.
Does anyone know what is actually being said on the BREAK_THE_CODE vid?
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Post by nealo on Nov 1, 2007 5:58:37 GMT -5
lol that david flair vid is hilarious
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Post by The Tree of Woe on Nov 1, 2007 7:04:15 GMT -5
Maybe Jericho is the 29th entrant in the Royal Rumble.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 1, 2007 8:14:14 GMT -5
Maybe Jericho is the 29th entrant in the Royal Rumble. The IWC will spontaneously combust if they are forced to wait that long. I am almost to the point where I would personally laugh when most of the IWC does that, however I will probably written off Jericho returning before this year's end in the first place.
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Post by Klutch on Nov 1, 2007 9:07:04 GMT -5
I think we are all missing the big picture here, looking past the obvious, save us isn't Jericho. Think about it, who saves people? The answer, superheroes. Save us is the return of WWE's resident superhero, The Hurricane.
Maybe?
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 1, 2007 9:41:56 GMT -5
I think we are all missing the big picture here, looking past the obvious, save us isn't Jericho. Think about it, who saves people? The answer, superheroes. Save us is the return of WWE's resident superhero, The Hurricane? Maybe? perhaps
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Post by doytch on Nov 1, 2007 10:38:39 GMT -5
jericho wanting more money? this is what happens. i have sick with wwe said oh we will save us jericho and it never happens again. i had to write letter to wwe and say stop self fake selling that jericho has to come on raw he does not. not before he gets money wich not has happened i/
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 1, 2007 10:40:16 GMT -5
jericho wanting more money? this is what happens. i have sick with wwe said oh we will save us jericho and it never happens again. i had to write letter to wwe and say stop self fake selling that jericho has to come on raw he does not. not before he gets money wich not has happened i/
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on Nov 1, 2007 11:42:41 GMT -5
jericho wanting more money? this is what happens. i have sick with wwe said oh we will save us jericho and it never happens again. i had to write letter to wwe and say stop self fake selling that jericho has to come on raw he does not. not before he gets money wich not has happened i/ WWE never said Jericho was coming back. Even if the SAVE_US.222 videos do link to Jericho (which is all but confirmed), no where did they give an exact date. So your accusations to WWE are going to fall on deaf ears, since they didn't do what you are accusing them of doing, false advertising Jericho.
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Post by General Zod on Nov 1, 2007 12:00:08 GMT -5
i can assure you alot of people where not too happy about that newsday report claiming jericho's return which shockingly he did'nt. I usually take all INTRAWEBZ NEWZ sites info with a grain of salt, however there may be some validity to the reports that Jericho was supposed to have already debuted however once WWE found out the story of him being SAVE_US.222 leaked, they pushed the return back. This makes sense for several reasons- - If everyone knows Jericho is debuting on a particular day, the element of "shock and surprise" it appears the SAVE_US campaign was designed to create dissapears.
- Continually holding him back may piss some smarks off, but if you recall in wrestling, some of the best debuts, feuds, etc. were the ones that were built up the longest. As RD said in Death of WCW, WCW had fans "salivating like Pavlov's dogs" to see Sting vs. Hogan at Starrcade 97'.
Same with SAVE_US. Even if you say "oh, I'm just getting sick of it anyway", the second Jericho comes back to Raw, you will mark the smurf out like a schoolgirl. Don't lie, you will.
- Since it's now pretty much confirmed who SAVE_US is, the only thing left in suspense is when he will appear on WWE TV. See where I'm going here? If you don't know when Jericho is coming back - guess what? You have to watch Raw every single week.
I know some of you don't care, but the majority of us (me included) would feel like a pretty big d-bag if the one time we said "eh, nothing will happen on Raw so I'll just watch something else" and Jericho made a huge return.
This is only a partial list, but those are the ones I thought were most pertinent. To be honest, I don't know if I would have liked Jericho's return as much if the SAVE_US videos ran and were only mentioned once on Raw by JR and King and all of a sudden he just shows up. I actually like what they're doing in previously the SAVE_US video would appear once on Raw and have no mention. This past week it appeared twice. What I'm hoping for is there will be a continual increase in the number of SAVE_US promos and it will be acknowledged on screen as more and more speculation is built up. Then, Jericho returns following one of the promos. Many of you smarks are pampered in that after readin TEH NEWZ sites you know everything that's going to happen on a show anyway. Spoilers, backstage rumors, etc. The beauty of SAVE_US is that none of us really have any idea when the payoff will be and while I can see that frustrates some of you, it's brilliant marketing by WWE. They are essentially telling us "you need and want to see the payoff for this and we aren't telling you when it is so you will just have to keep watching our shows every week until we pay it off". And they're 100% right. I can't disagree wholy with that. What I disagree with is the fact that it should have been paid off already, and thusly, it has not. And why? Because information was leaked to 10% of the watching audience? Sorry, but with the way people like HHH and Steph constantly badmouth the "Internet" wrestling fan, I find that to be insulting and dismissive if not a bit hypocritical. First and foremost, go back to the original SAVE-US thread. 90% of us (probably higher, but I'm being generous) instantly thought of Chris Jericho due to the nature of the videos. In the following days, many people here spent quite a bit of time researching the videos to find clues within them, as it would seem that is what the WWE *wanted* us to do. When we *did* crack the code (which again, wasn't terribly difficult to do), no ammount of spoilers in the world would have made an iota of difference. To this end, the WWE, (if I am to understand this correctly) pushed back the date of his debut in an effort to "work" that same 10% of their audience? That same, small, insignificant group of obsessed marks who (obviously) don't have girlfriends, let alone productive lives outside of a television and a computer screen. Sorry, but that's BS. Instead of letting things play out as planned, they 'punnish' us for being smart enough to figure out their stupid little video puzzle? It's a backhanded insult; a slap in the face to any self respecting fan's intelligence. It's not upsetting because Jericho didn't debut. It's upsetting because those in charge at the offices of WWE Inc. don't see you as intelligent contributors to their empire. You can call it "working the smarks" if you like. I call it 'insulting my intelligence'. I'd like to see the payoff myself. And I suppose I really have no choice but to wait. But being made to wait out of spite for a group that's smarter than they give credit for is passe`. That's *so* 1997. And people wonder why the WWE product sucks so bad right now. More thought has gone into this one small vignette than John Cena's entire run as WWE champion. Maybe when Jericho comes back, we can put a spinner belt on him, too.
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Post by Near Fantastica on Nov 1, 2007 12:06:07 GMT -5
If it is indeed Jericho I'm glad he hasn't returned yet. I want this to be a big payoff. I want him to return into a big storyline, not to return and be ignored because Orton is facing off against Michaels. They should hold out until at least Survivor Series. They really need to do this correctly, not just bring him back on RAW one week. It needs to make sense and it needs to be at the correct time.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 1, 2007 17:38:27 GMT -5
I usually take all INTRAWEBZ NEWZ sites info with a grain of salt, however there may be some validity to the reports that Jericho was supposed to have already debuted however once WWE found out the story of him being SAVE_US.222 leaked, they pushed the return back. This makes sense for several reasons- - If everyone knows Jericho is debuting on a particular day, the element of "shock and surprise" it appears the SAVE_US campaign was designed to create dissapears.
- Continually holding him back may piss some smarks off, but if you recall in wrestling, some of the best debuts, feuds, etc. were the ones that were built up the longest. As RD said in Death of WCW, WCW had fans "salivating like Pavlov's dogs" to see Sting vs. Hogan at Starrcade 97'.
Same with SAVE_US. Even if you say "oh, I'm just getting sick of it anyway", the second Jericho comes back to Raw, you will mark the smurf out like a schoolgirl. Don't lie, you will.
- Since it's now pretty much confirmed who SAVE_US is, the only thing left in suspense is when he will appear on WWE TV. See where I'm going here? If you don't know when Jericho is coming back - guess what? You have to watch Raw every single week.
I know some of you don't care, but the majority of us (me included) would feel like a pretty big d-bag if the one time we said "eh, nothing will happen on Raw so I'll just watch something else" and Jericho made a huge return.
This is only a partial list, but those are the ones I thought were most pertinent. To be honest, I don't know if I would have liked Jericho's return as much if the SAVE_US videos ran and were only mentioned once on Raw by JR and King and all of a sudden he just shows up. I actually like what they're doing in previously the SAVE_US video would appear once on Raw and have no mention. This past week it appeared twice. What I'm hoping for is there will be a continual increase in the number of SAVE_US promos and it will be acknowledged on screen as more and more speculation is built up. Then, Jericho returns following one of the promos. Many of you smarks are pampered in that after readin TEH NEWZ sites you know everything that's going to happen on a show anyway. Spoilers, backstage rumors, etc. The beauty of SAVE_US is that none of us really have any idea when the payoff will be and while I can see that frustrates some of you, it's brilliant marketing by WWE. They are essentially telling us "you need and want to see the payoff for this and we aren't telling you when it is so you will just have to keep watching our shows every week until we pay it off". And they're 100% right. I can't disagree wholy with that. What I disagree with is the fact that it should have been paid off already, and thusly, it has not. And why? Because information was leaked to 10% of the watching audience? Sorry, but with the way people like HHH and Steph constantly badmouth the "Internet" wrestling fan, I find that to be insulting and dismissive if not a bit hypocritical. First and foremost, go back to the original SAVE-US thread. 90% of us (probably higher, but I'm being generous) instantly thought of Chris Jericho due to the nature of the videos. In the following days, many people here spent quite a bit of time researching the videos to find clues within them, as it would seem that is what the WWE *wanted* us to do. When we *did* crack the code (which again, wasn't terribly difficult to do), no ammount of spoilers in the world would have made an iota of difference. To this end, the WWE, (if I am to understand this correctly) pushed back the date of his debut in an effort to "work" that same 10% of their audience? That same, small, insignificant group of obsessed marks who (obviously) don't have girlfriends, let alone productive lives outside of a television and a computer screen. Sorry, but that's BS. Instead of letting things play out as planned, they 'punnish' us for being smart enough to figure out their stupid little video puzzle? It's a backhanded insult; a slap in the face to any self respecting fan's intelligence. It's not upsetting because Jericho didn't debut. It's upsetting because those in charge at the offices of WWE Inc. don't see you as intelligent contributors to their empire. You can call it "working the smarks" if you like. I call it 'insulting my intelligence'. I'd like to see the payoff myself. And I suppose I really have no choice but to wait. But being made to wait out of spite for a group that's smarter than they give credit for is passe`. That's *so* 1997. And people wonder why the WWE product sucks so bad right now. More thought has gone into this one small vignette than John Cena's entire run as WWE champion. Maybe when Jericho comes back, we can put a spinner belt on him, too. I think that sums up close enough.
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Post by John Oates' Moustache on Nov 1, 2007 19:43:57 GMT -5
All I can say is I know something you likely don't when I say SAVE_US.BDJ
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Post by Taupy on Nov 1, 2007 20:32:16 GMT -5
Chris Jericho is coming the RAW after Survivor Series and attacks HBK. 8.2.11 Savior Self.
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Post by KIRKALICIOUS! on Nov 2, 2007 23:08:27 GMT -5
I'm here to reveal who Save Us actually is...... KIRALICIOUS!
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Post by CM Dazz on Nov 3, 2007 0:30:58 GMT -5
All I can say is I know something you likely don't when I say SAVE_US.BDJ www.nature.com/bdj/index.htmlI knew it!! The British Dental Journal will save us all!!
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Post by rm1978 on Nov 3, 2007 0:47:55 GMT -5
Jericho was on Opie & Anthony this morning and they pretty much wore him down and he all but admitted he was coming back. They asked why he wouldn't deny it and he was basically like "why bother at this point". He also claimed he still has not seen the save_us stuff. Overall a very good appearance - try to find an mp3 of it.
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