AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 19, 2007 16:00:57 GMT -5
Chuck isn't exactly what I call "Mega over", I think it's mainly piped in cheers. Henry is over as a midcard heel. Unfortunately, its after a long history of failed pushes.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 19, 2007 16:22:18 GMT -5
Big Show.
Yeah, he was over to some degree, but he wasn't anywhere close to being the next Andre that they thought he would be.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 19, 2007 16:23:00 GMT -5
Big Show. Yeah, he was over to some degree, but he wasn't anywhere close to being the next Andre that they thought he would be. He had the same problem in WCW.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 19, 2007 16:25:01 GMT -5
Big Show. Yeah, he was over to some degree, but he wasn't anywhere close to being the next Andre that they thought he would be. He had the same problem in WCW. Yeah, but at least he was always treated as a big deal in WCW. As for WWE...I rememeber he jobbed to Test once on heat.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 16:26:26 GMT -5
Big Show. Yeah, he was over to some degree, but he wasn't anywhere close to being the next Andre that they thought he would be. He had the same problem in WCW. I thought they did well with him in WCW, got the World Title from Hogan and Flair, beat a lot of guys in his tenure there and was a major threat there for quite a few years before coming to WWE.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 19, 2007 16:28:33 GMT -5
He had the same problem in WCW. I thought they did well with him in WCW, got the World Title from Hogan and Flair, beat a lot of guys in his tenure there and was a major threat there for quite a few years before coming to WWE. I think he was actually billed as "Andre The Giant's Son" initially, and he never seemed quite as big as they wanted to make him. You guys are right though, his WCW run was better overall than his WWE one.
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Post by Bones58 on Nov 19, 2007 16:33:43 GMT -5
They Killed any chance of the Big Show becoming a top star with his constant face and heel turns in 99/00 which killed alot of his heat at the time was a probably a major factor in him flopping with his first run with the belt in late '99/early '00.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 19, 2007 16:39:38 GMT -5
Oh, and I am gonna make a slight breach of etiquette here and say the light-heavyweight title. WWE brought that belt in from Mexico, I believe, in 97. They were really just trying to copycat WCW, which had gotten enormously positive feedback for its cruiserweight division. But Vince pretty clearly never really cared about the title at all. Its best year was 98, I'd say, when it was still new and Taka was the chosen champion. He had a match at Wrestlemania that year that was a high flying classic, I'd say. But even then, the title was never given any real attention, and the light-weight wrestlers were just used as cannon jobber for mid-carders. The belt got revived over and over, but still no one at all cared about it till it got put on X-Pac, who took it with him when he left. I even recall hearing he sold the belt off on ebay a few years ago. I remember watching WWF for the first time in 1999 and I didn't realize that Gillberg held an actual WWF title. Test looked like he was being built to be one of the future big names of the company in 1999, but once Steph became HHH's valet Test's stock really plummeted and only made the occasional rise when he won the IC Title and that battle royal, and that was really it.
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Post by Legion on Nov 19, 2007 16:44:17 GMT -5
Chuck isn't exactly what I call "Mega over", I think it's mainly piped in cheers. Henry is over as a midcard heel. Unfortunately, its after a long history of failed pushes. Has Henry ever not been over? I mean, granted he never got main event pops, but then he is rarely in the main event, just upper mid-card, transistional fueds. As for Palumbo, completely agree there. Watch the crowd when he comes out, no one cares, the cheers are piped in.
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Post by salTy on Nov 19, 2007 17:33:17 GMT -5
DDP as the stalker. Initially it was a bit creepy to see this guy stalking Sara...but then DDP came out, and he's good at a lot of things but he's not a scary or creepy guy. That wasn't a push. That was a burial.
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Post by tankmcquade on Nov 19, 2007 17:37:10 GMT -5
Hmmm....is Evolution a failed push? Think about it, they really tried for them to be the next 4 horsemen in some way..........
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 17:52:54 GMT -5
Hmmm....is Evolution a failed push? Think about it, they really tried for them to be the next 4 horsemen in some way.......... i wouldnt say so... maybe as a whole it wasnt as over as teh 4 horsemen but it did what it was supposed to do, give 2 young superstars main event pushes
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