The F'N Captain
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 19, 2007 20:33:49 GMT -5
If Jericho didn't show up tonight and we got a video, you would have a right to complain and whine about it. for once, unlike the 10 other times everyone bitched because they were outfoxed by the WWE. Well maybe not so much outfoxed as fed deliberately false dates. From how the actual debut is being done compared to what were the false leads, the presentation is the same, the only difference is outright corroboration. In other words, if we were playing CSI the "clues" given previously would have led anyone to the results reached.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 20:34:28 GMT -5
for once, unlike the 10 other times everyone bitched because they were outfoxed by the WWE. Well maybe not so much outfoxed as fed deliberately false dates. From how the actual debut is being done compared to what were the false leads, the presentation is the same, the only difference is outright corroboration. In other words, if we were playing CSI the "clues" given previously would have led anyone to the results reached. How were people fed false dates?
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 19, 2007 20:35:42 GMT -5
for once, unlike the 10 other times everyone bitched because they were outfoxed by the WWE. Well maybe not so much outfoxed as fed deliberately false dates. From how the actual debut is being done compared to what were the false leads, the presentation is the same, the only difference is outright corroboration. In other words, if we were playing CSI the "clues" given previously would have led anyone to the results reached. Once again, a date was never said save for this one. The rest were all implied dates reached by conjectures taken from clues. They never said "Jericho on Oct. 4" or "Jericho on Oct. 29" they were merely implying something on those dates, which turned out to be a different iteration of the video. They never fed a false date, people were just mad it wasn't Jericho.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Nov 19, 2007 20:35:53 GMT -5
Just to countdown to RAW, I will post classic Jericho videos. First off, how it began, him coming to the WWE - youtube.com/watch?v=gFX7_4uTqhIHopefully it's as good as this. Put him with Santino...and yes, it will be amazing.
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Post by MVP = Ballin.222 on Nov 19, 2007 20:35:56 GMT -5
I hope he comes out to Break the Walls Down. Something interesting that I don't think anyone has mentioned is that the beginning to the Sevendust version of Break the Walls down from Forceable Entry is very similar to the 222 video music.
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Post by Fruity Delicious Skittles on Nov 19, 2007 20:36:06 GMT -5
So, do people want Jericho's theme to be different to fit a 'new' character, or does everyone want one of the best themes in the last decade to be playing when he comes out? Break the Walls Down is an amazing song for this situtation. Hopefully a twist on "Break Down the Walls" or something new. That song (in its most well known version) sucks. Sacrilege!!!
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Post by Firearm: Supposed Big Deal on Nov 19, 2007 20:36:20 GMT -5
Well maybe not so much outfoxed as fed deliberately false dates. From how the actual debut is being done compared to what were the false leads, the presentation is the same, the only difference is outright corroboration. In other words, if we were playing CSI the "clues" given previously would have led anyone to the results reached. How were people fed false dates? People thought "X29" = 10/29. In my opinion, they WANTED to bring out Jericho that day, but USA network basically told them to save it for sweeps, which we are now in.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 20:37:32 GMT -5
How were people fed false dates? People thought "X29" = 10/29. In my opinion, they WANTED to bring out Jericho that day, but USA network basically told them to save it for sweeps, which we are now in. Well, they thought wrong apparently. If WWE had promised or advertised that the maker of these .222 videos would come forward on those particular dates and no-showed, then people could complain, but it was conjecture that was found to be wrong and people were pissed that the newz they read was false.
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Post by Down by Law on Nov 19, 2007 20:38:15 GMT -5
This is pretty much the first time watching raw/ being on the boards in about a year, so this better be good. but i'm sooo prepared to be let down
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Nov 19, 2007 20:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by Fruity Delicious Skittles on Nov 19, 2007 20:38:28 GMT -5
How were people fed false dates? People thought "X29" = 10/29. In my opinion, they WANTED to bring out Jericho that day, but USA network basically told them to save it for sweeps, which we are now in. I very much doubt it. That date a NEW video debuted. Since then they've built it up even more to the point where they've announced all will be revealed tonight. Plus I'm fairly sure Jericho wanted to end his book tour before returning.
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Post by Randy Barber 4-Life on Nov 19, 2007 20:38:38 GMT -5
Anybody think they'll screw up and put Jericho in the RAW intro video tonight?
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Post by Firearm: Supposed Big Deal on Nov 19, 2007 20:40:00 GMT -5
Well, time to get Brian Collins ready...
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 19, 2007 20:40:16 GMT -5
for once, unlike the 10 other times everyone bitched because they were outfoxed by the WWE. Well maybe not so much outfoxed as fed deliberately false dates. From how the actual debut is being done compared to what were the false leads, the presentation is the same, the only difference is outright corroboration. In other words, if we were playing CSI the "clues" given previously would have led anyone to the results reached. Funny I've been following along with this stuff since day 1 and never once was under the impression he was returning earlier. I waited till WWE actually said something about it.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 19, 2007 20:40:25 GMT -5
Anybody think they'll screw up and put Jericho in the RAW intro video tonight? Not really. It'd be slightly humorous if they did, but I don't picture that happening.
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The F'N Captain
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 19, 2007 20:40:27 GMT -5
How were people fed false dates? People thought "X29" = 10/29. In my opinion, they WANTED to bring out Jericho that day, but USA network basically told them to save it for sweeps, which we are now in. Exactly, the dates weren't completely random. They all fell on either PPV or Raw dates. They didn't fall on let's say a Thursday or Saturday where there is no fresh WWE televised programming. I'm not mad mind you but you can't tell me the dates were chosen at random to not create a buzz. They were picked for the express idea of letting smarks "break the code" to extend the angle, however at a point you couldn't help but conjecture that one of the dates "might be the night". If it was as random as implied then it would have been complete gibberish.
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Post by Down by Law on Nov 19, 2007 20:40:45 GMT -5
and boom goes the dynamite...
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Post by Kyle on Nov 19, 2007 20:41:27 GMT -5
You know... part of me wants it to NOT be Jericho tonight. Just because I'd love to here someone (anyone) else just get booed the hell out of the arena.
Or at the very least, let's hope that Chris falls down ala The Shockmaster. Admit... if all this .222 lead up to Chris Jericho attempting to break through a gigantic paper wall set up in front of the entrance ramp, which Chris proceeds to trip through... it'd SO be worth the effort.
Remember the time when Hogan tried to steel The Undertakers motorcycle and it wouldn't start. After like what felt like 3 minutes of him fumbling with it, they cut to the audience and someone else (from backstage) had to run out and start it for him.
I want Save_Us.22 to be JUST like that.
8)
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Nov 19, 2007 20:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 20:42:24 GMT -5
People thought "X29" = 10/29. In my opinion, they WANTED to bring out Jericho that day, but USA network basically told them to save it for sweeps, which we are now in. Exactly, the dates weren't completely random. They all fell on either PPV or Raw dates. They didn't fall on let's say a Thursday or Saturday where there is no fresh WWE televised programming. I'm not mad mind you but you can't tell me the dates were chosen at random to not create a buzz. They were picked for the express idea of letting smarks "break the code" to extend the angle, however at a point you couldn't help but conjecture that one of the dates "might be the night". If it was as random as implied then it would have been complete gibberish. I'm sure Jericho may have debuted on those dates, but as it was never advertised expressly, WWE could've extended as long as they had wanted as they never said Jericho was coming outright. It was smarks who went nuts over this thing spending hours replaying footage, and various theories etc. and they were pissed their guesses were wrong.
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