wwerules60
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 22, 2007 16:43:13 GMT -5
Reading this thread I realized that one of the big differences between WWE and WCW was that WWE took in people from WCW and made them stars where as WCW took people that were already stars from WWE.
With the exception of like Jeff Jarrett, WCW never really took a midcard guy from WWE and made them into a main eventer, unless I am completely forgetting someone.
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Post by EmptyEYE DUNNOOOOOOOOO on Nov 24, 2007 17:06:16 GMT -5
I'm late here, but I absolutely agree with Eddie Guerrero. Not to discredit his WCW work, but he absolutely hit rock bottom at one point, and Vince McMahon gave him one more chance than he arguably deserved to straighten himself out (Which he, thankfully, did).
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Post by big nasty on Nov 24, 2007 17:43:42 GMT -5
how about all the ECW guys, like dreamer, balls, nunzio, etc. where exactly would they be if vince hadnt picked them all up? im sure the WWE is way better to work for than hopping around the indies, or working in a warehouse or something.
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Post by tarheelfan on Nov 24, 2007 18:32:59 GMT -5
Reading this thread I realized that one of the big differences between WWE and WCW was that WWE took in people from WCW and made them stars where as WCW took people that were already stars from WWE. With the exception of like Jeff Jarrett, WCW never really took a midcard guy from WWE and made them into a main eventer, unless I am completely forgetting someone. Don't forget the irony here. Remember that the WWE took established stars from the NWA and AWA in the early to mid 1980s and took advantage of wrestlers who already had name recognition and star status. So it is not like the WWE never took advanatage of this concept themselves before. Unless someone was a sole WWE fan of the WWE in the early 1990s than they would not realize that guys like Sid Viscious, Vader and Ron Simmons were already established stars in wrestling. And truthfully Austin was given a extremely good push in WCW as compared to the majority of other wrestlers. So it wasn't like Austin was a person who came out of nowhere when he debuted in the WWE. Lastly, I always feel that WCW respected the Giant's(Big Show) sheer size with more respect and seriousness than when the WWE started having him job to people he had no business jobbing to. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2007 18:35:38 GMT -5
True. Foley himself has said that without them, he probably would've been tearing his body apart in ECW and Japan, and probably flounder a little in WCW before fading away. |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Nov 24, 2007 23:58:47 GMT -5
"Don't forget the irony here. Remember that the WWE took established stars from the NWA and AWA in the early to mid 1980s and took advantage of wrestlers who already had name recognition and star status. So it is not like the WWE never took advanatage of this concept themselves before."
I actually brought that up before. Hogan was extremely popular in the AWA, but was continuously screwed out of the championship. This was one of the many contributions for the company's downfall. Vince McMahon capitalized on Hogan's popularity and put this promotional machine behind him.
"And truthfully Austin was given a extremely good push in WCW as compared to the majority of other wrestlers. So it wasn't like Austin was a person who came out of nowhere when he debuted in the WWE."
I stated that he had previous success in WCW. It was towards the end that he was treated like crap.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 25, 2007 1:09:53 GMT -5
It's not like Bischoff had a magic crystal ball that he could see into the future to know that Austin would've gotten over as he did. Was it a mistake? Sure, but in business, it's not uncommon for someone to overlook a particular talent and they end up doing well elsewhere. I agree. I mean, I don't even think Stone Cold would be in the top 5 of talent that was passed over by other groups before becoming superstars. It happened to The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jordan, Barry Sanders, and George Lucas's attempt to make Star Wars. That said, I think everyone realizes that Bischoff had no way of knowing that Austin would turn into a wrestling megastar and bad-movie actor and more than the Green Bay Packers knew that Barry Sanders would be a better pick than Tony Mandarich. No one has a crystal ball and, dammit, if you do, I just want to know the powerball numbers once! |
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Post by tarheelfan on Nov 25, 2007 1:18:26 GMT -5
It's not like Bischoff had a magic crystal ball that he could see into the future to know that Austin would've gotten over as he did. Was it a mistake? Sure, but in business, it's not uncommon for someone to overlook a particular talent and they end up doing well elsewhere. I agree. I mean, I don't even think Stone Cold would be in the top 5 of talent that was passed over by other groups before becoming superstars. It happened to The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jordan, Barry Sanders, and George Lucas's attempt to make Star Wars. That said, I think everyone realizes that Bischoff had no way of knowing that Austin would turn into a wrestling megastar and bad-movie actor and more than the Green Bay Packers knew that Barry Sanders would be a better pick than Tony Mandarich. No one has a crystal ball and, dammit, if you do, I just want to know the powerball numbers once! I imagine that to this day that certain movie companies are still kicking themselves over the Star Wars thing. |
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