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Post by mrwednesdaynight on Nov 22, 2007 5:32:13 GMT -5
I do believe that the burial posts are tongue in cheek. And I dont think liquidating a long running and successful developmental territory is the answer. maybe they just need to hire new trainers and bookers. why throw out the baby with the bathwater? as far as shawn and trips going that far to protect their spots, it sounds completely absurd. but we do all remember the glory days of wcw, where the older guys did go to extreme messures to protect their spots. and with triple h holding more power than any active wrestler reasonably should or ever has in the history of the business, it doesnt seem completely impossible.
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Post by Dick Foley on Nov 22, 2007 5:39:40 GMT -5
I don't see why anyone thinks Shawn and Trips are protecting their spot when neither of them has held a belt in quite sometime (not counting Trips 2 hour reign)
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Post by mrwednesdaynight on Nov 22, 2007 5:47:06 GMT -5
they may not have held a belt but they did spend most of last summer and fall humiliating the spirit squad and team rko. and taking up at least half the tv time on raw at that time. if they are always the focus of the show and never made to look anything but awesome, who needs to have a belt in that case? they probably just believe at this point they are bigger than championships. In all reality, history is on the side of the argument that older guys bury younger guys by any means avalible, to protect their spots, with no consideration for the future of the business or the quality of the current product. i dont know if i even believe everything ive said, but it does seem possible.
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Post by Loki on Nov 22, 2007 8:20:39 GMT -5
I do believe that the burial posts are tongue in cheek. And I dont think liquidating a long running and successful developmental territory is the answer. maybe they just need to hire new trainers and bookers. why throw out the baby with the bathwater? as far as shawn and trips going that far to protect their spots, it sounds completely absurd. but we do all remember the glory days of wcw, where the older guys did go to extreme messures to protect their spots. and with triple h holding more power than any active wrestler reasonably should or ever has in the history of the business, it doesnt seem completely impossible. Well, I'd not call OVW "successful", considering many of the "talents" they have been grooming down there never made to the main roster, or failed to different degrees. It's probably time for a change. About Trips "holding more power than any active wrestler etc etc", well, we know squat about that, so it's all our PERCEPTION based on third hand "facts" and unverified opinions.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 22, 2007 8:27:04 GMT -5
But I thought when Trips and Shawn went down there, that they were helpful to everyone and that the visit went well?
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Post by rzombie1988 on Nov 22, 2007 8:39:53 GMT -5
FCW has no TV, and has ran once a week for the last two months or so. OVW is still the top development, and is probably going to stay that way. I've never read this newsbit so I don't know about the validity of it.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 22, 2007 8:58:14 GMT -5
More HUNTOR conspiracies? C'mon that's like so 2002
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 22, 2007 9:06:03 GMT -5
But I thought when Trips and Shawn went down there, that they were helpful to everyone and that the visit went well? See, that's what I thought, too. It's a pretty well known fact that Hunter and Shawn went down there, but apparently there's two different versions of what they did/saw.
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Post by lovingway on Nov 22, 2007 9:26:30 GMT -5
I have to admit that there is no real standout talent in OVW that is sticking out in my mind like a guy that would be put on the roster. Spears is good, but WWE will make him a babyface and he sucks in that role. Kruel will be a Nunzio level jobber.
The booking in OVW is so haphazard as well. They only book for like a few weeks in advance and then, when the next month starts, they forget all about what happens.
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Post by The Heff on Nov 22, 2007 9:37:17 GMT -5
Kozlov would be devastated! After all, he loves O V DOUBLE!
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 22, 2007 9:41:51 GMT -5
I have to admit that there is no real standout talent in OVW that is sticking out in my mind like a guy that would be put on the roster. Spears is good, but WWE will make him a babyface and he sucks in that role. Kruel will be a Nunzio level jobber. The booking in OVW is so haphazard as well. They only book for like a few weeks in advance and then, when the next month starts, they forget all about what happens. I gotta disagree. Burchill, Cabana, Ace Steel, Bradley Jay, Roucka, Katie Lea, Shawn Spears, Mike Kruel, hell, even Atlas DaBone could all make HUGE impacts in WWE if booked correctly. Of course, that last "if" is kind of up to the E, but I think that some of those guys, namely Burchill, Cabana, and Kruel, are no brainers.
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Post by lovingway on Nov 22, 2007 15:46:38 GMT -5
I have to admit that there is no real standout talent in OVW that is sticking out in my mind like a guy that would be put on the roster. Spears is good, but WWE will make him a babyface and he sucks in that role. Kruel will be a Nunzio level jobber. The booking in OVW is so haphazard as well. They only book for like a few weeks in advance and then, when the next month starts, they forget all about what happens. I gotta disagree. Burchill, Cabana, Ace Steel, Bradley Jay, Roucka, Katie Lea, Shawn Spears, Mike Kruel, hell, even Atlas DaBone could all make HUGE impacts in WWE if booked correctly. Of course, that last "if" is kind of up to the E, but I think that some of those guys, namely Burchill, Cabana, and Kruel, are no brainers. Atlas is still at least a year away from making it on the roster. He has improved drastically, but still needs the experience. Burchill, is midcard (see Regal, William) if he is lucky. Spears and Kruel see my previous post. Divas are a dime a dozen. Steel will be released in the next 6 months. Cabana still has another 6 months before going to the roster where he will have a Val Venis push where he will look like a breakout star but eventually be a jobber
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2007 16:24:37 GMT -5
If we can just use other boards as a source, do other boards use our posts as a source?
If so...
Recent reports indicate Vince McMahon is dying, and ownership of the company will be decided via a double elimination MMA tournament that will occur in place of the Royal Rumble.
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Post by pixiesfan on Nov 22, 2007 16:27:13 GMT -5
I gotta disagree. Burchill, Cabana, Ace Steel, Bradley Jay, Roucka, Katie Lea, Shawn Spears, Mike Kruel, hell, even Atlas DaBone could all make HUGE impacts in WWE if booked correctly. Of course, that last "if" is kind of up to the E, but I think that some of those guys, namely Burchill, Cabana, and Kruel, are no brainers. Atlas is still at least a year away from making it on the roster. He has improved drastically, but still needs the experience. Burchill, is midcard (see Regal, William) if he is lucky. Spears and Kruel see my previous post. Divas are a dime a dozen. Steel will be released in the next 6 months. Cabana still has another 6 months before going to the roster where he will have a Val Venis push where he will look like a breakout star but eventually be a jobber. Also, the glass is HALF EMPTY. Just thought adding that last line to your post would make sense.
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 22, 2007 16:34:55 GMT -5
Atlas is still at least a year away from making it on the roster. He has improved drastically, but still needs the experience. Burchill, is midcard (see Regal, William) if he is lucky. Spears and Kruel see my previous post. Divas are a dime a dozen. Steel will be released in the next 6 months. Cabana still has another 6 months before going to the roster where he will have a Val Venis push where he will look like a breakout star but eventually be a jobber All I'll say is "CM Punk."
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 22, 2007 17:19:47 GMT -5
First off, I saw the exact show that HHH and Michaels came down for and that show SUCKED. They picked the time when two important guys were visiting to put the TV title on Ted "The Trailer" McNaler, a guy doing a really horrible redneck Mikey Whipwreck gimmick come out of nowhere to win the TV title.
It's laughable to think HHH or HBK would be worried about any of the guys in OVW. Cabana, Spears, and Sydal are really good, but most of the OVW talent is going nowhere should they even make the main roster.
In the past few months there have been all sorts of guys transferred from OVW down to Florida. It's been pretty obvious for a while that FCW is being primed as the new main development fed. If you're a WWE exec where would you want to visit? Tampa/St. Pete or Louisville? And I'm from Louisville!
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 22, 2007 17:25:41 GMT -5
Atlas is still at least a year away from making it on the roster. He has improved drastically, but still needs the experience. Burchill, is midcard (see Regal, William) if he is lucky. Spears and Kruel see my previous post. Divas are a dime a dozen. Steel will be released in the next 6 months. Cabana still has another 6 months before going to the roster where he will have a Val Venis push where he will look like a breakout star but eventually be a jobber All I'll say is "CM Punk." With him I think he had a huge following and plus him debuting at the Hammerstein helped immensely as most of those ECW fans probably watched his ROH stuff and gave him a hero's welcome, if it was in some arena in Omaha,NE, he'd get a Conway pop for sure. As for guys like Burchill, I don't think he'll ever breakout or be a huge name, good midcarder at best, but that's it. At least they canned the crappy Pirate gimmick which was getting him nowhere fast.
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Post by SassovsHart on Nov 22, 2007 17:40:12 GMT -5
Source: Pwinsider (Click on the "latest news" link at the top of the page, and look for a headline called "WWE Opens New Developmental Territory"), The release is also on Gerweck under the same title.
I think some of the speculation about OVW's future was probably drawn from this press release WWE sent out. Beside the part about the new facilities, I can see why some people may have drawn the conclusions about OVW if they're planning to expand FCW to over 60 people. Haven't seen anything about Trips and HBK being unhappy about OVW though.
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Post by jmac950 on Nov 22, 2007 18:23:27 GMT -5
HBK and Trips should want to hold onto their spot. It'd make total sense that they sabotage OVW. Once Trips runs the WWE, he can claim that there wasn't new good talent available, which is why he'll be a 60 year old heavyweight champion, who holds onto the title for 2 years at a time!
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Nov 22, 2007 18:29:55 GMT -5
Source? Link? Nice to see people blindly believe EVERYTHING they read on the internet. BTW: Your mother is a whore. OMG MY MOTHER IS A WHORE?! AND I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET?!
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