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Post by Joekishi on Nov 27, 2007 14:56:05 GMT -5
You know how Big Show would constantly lose to people in 2000-2002. You know to the likes of Jeff Hardy.
This pisses me off so much. With Lashley, Triple H, and Cena they had to put Umaga through a hell of a lot just to get him down.
Nowadays a Pedigree and Swanton is all it takes. I can't be the only one mad at this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 14:58:41 GMT -5
What's the whole point in having a wildman gimmick if you're not "unstoppable"? I agree: Umaga absolutely excelled when it took guys like Cena literary everything, including the damn ring ropes, to keep him down. Now, he just comes off as a chump and the guys he demolished earlier look even worse.
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Post by rrm15 on Nov 27, 2007 14:58:48 GMT -5
They'll be "big-showing" him when he turns heel-face-heel like 3 times a year.
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 27, 2007 15:05:21 GMT -5
They'll be "big-showing" him when he turns heel-face-heel like 3 times a year. Didn't he do that once this year? He Heel-Face turned during the feud with Santino where the crowd cheered him and then he helped Cena. Then he turned back heel when Jeff Hardy got back. |
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Post by Randy Barber 4-Life on Nov 27, 2007 15:07:28 GMT -5
It happens to all "monster" type heels sooner or later. Once they've been beaten one or two times they start becoming less and less unstoppable. I haven't heard anything about it in a while but to me now would be a perfect time for Estrada to bring Rosey back as another wild man and have them take on the tag division. It would basically restart Umaga's character, and they'd both be unstoppable. Probably won't happen though.
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Post by royboy8 on Nov 27, 2007 15:09:09 GMT -5
Big difference is that Umaga only takes l's as part of a storyline, always puts on a fantastic match in those losses, and somehow almost always still has the badass monster type feel because of how hard it usually is to beat him.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 27, 2007 15:11:02 GMT -5
This past monday though it wasn't the usual Umaga gets takes some massive moves.
I don't know I'd rather have had Umaga kick out of the swanton, and Jeff win with a Roll up.
IF i was to have Umaga lose. Just because it's the kind of booking that keeps monsters monsters.
Like i also had a problem with Mark Henry losing the way he did, even if he was knocked out with an international object.
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Post by normcoleman on Nov 27, 2007 15:12:01 GMT -5
agreed!
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Post by MGH on Nov 27, 2007 15:18:21 GMT -5
I'm really hoping for a move to Smackdown. Fresh opponents, can regain his edge, and maybe even get a brief (though unlikely) run on top.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 27, 2007 15:41:12 GMT -5
What the hell do you expect?! Two finishers SHOULD be enough to take someone out.
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Post by royboy8 on Nov 27, 2007 15:41:46 GMT -5
JR really had an awesome compliment for him yesterday in saying Umaga is one of the most agile, quick moving super heavyweights ever. Thats covering a lot of ground...
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 27, 2007 16:07:07 GMT -5
Not bad for a guy we all crapped on shortly after his debut.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 27, 2007 16:21:35 GMT -5
Like i also had a problem with Mark Henry losing the way he did, even if he was knocked out with an international object. An "international" object? WTF!?! It's called a FOREIGN object, lol! |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 27, 2007 16:33:45 GMT -5
He needs to get one win over Triple H, or move on to a new feud. Who knows, maybe he'll feud with Snitsky over Snitsky claiming Umaga cost them the match.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 27, 2007 16:54:26 GMT -5
Like i also had a problem with Mark Henry losing the way he did, even if he was knocked out with an international object. An "international" object? WTF!?! It's called a FOREIGN object, lol! NOT IN MY WORLD buddy |
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 27, 2007 17:29:55 GMT -5
Its another case of WWE having no faith in people. They always push these unstoppable monsters but are scared to give them a title or let them beat one of the main guys.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Nov 27, 2007 18:11:14 GMT -5
I thought for almost a year that Umaga should have been moved to Smackdown (probably during the draft) for fresh opponents.
Could you imagine the Undertaker vs. Umaga at Wrestlemania if Umaga was still undefeated?
I also miss Armando Alejandro Estrada because he was an excellent mouthpiece for Umaga and then he just seemed to fizzle out of existence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 18:13:36 GMT -5
I thought for almost a year that Umaga should have been moved to Smackdown (probably during the draft) for fresh opponents. Could you imagine the Undertaker vs. Umaga at Wrestlemania if Umaga was still undefeated? I also miss Armando Alejandro Estrada because he was an excellent mouthpiece for Umaga and then he just seemed to fizzle out of existence. and became the GM of ECW  |
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Nov 27, 2007 18:36:29 GMT -5
I thought for almost a year that Umaga should have been moved to Smackdown (probably during the draft) for fresh opponents. Could you imagine the Undertaker vs. Umaga at Wrestlemania if Umaga was still undefeated? I also miss Armando Alejandro Estrada because he was an excellent mouthpiece for Umaga and then he just seemed to fizzle out of existence. and became the GM of ECW Well that confirms it then. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 27, 2007 18:38:04 GMT -5
At least they haven't "Kaned" him yet. And I love Kane, but he's been treated far shoddier than Big Show.
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