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Post by halcyon on Nov 28, 2007 11:43:16 GMT -5
Flair has earned the right-more so than possibly any wrestler (screw 'Sports Entertainment') to go out on top. Frankly his stock has become so devalued by overexposure as a wrestler and jobbing to all and sundry over the past few years that this is one of the few credible ways to rebuild him as a viable in-ring competitor.
Flair prides himself on being 'the dirtiest player in the game' and therefore can pick up a few cheap wins along the way to no damage of his prestige-quite the opposite in fact.
If WWE is smart (and when are they?) they will however feature him spareingly in TV matches. I agree with some of the comments here that three or four months of watching somewhat predictable wins might turn off many fans-especially those who are not die hard 'Nature Boy' fans like myself and instead see an ageing competitor being put over by younger talent.
Give Flair a great and anticipated send-off at Wrestlemania-semi main event. Build a goodly portion of the show around it. One of the few things WCW did right years ago was the Flair/Vader retirement angle of 1993. Charlotte was pregnant with expectation that night. WWE have six months to build to this-not one hot-shot show. Do it right.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 28, 2007 11:45:16 GMT -5
Anti climactic. You KNOW someone (HHH, Orton, HBK) will be the one to beat him or cause him the loss that ends his career. It's not a new angle. And when we don't learn our history, what are we doomed to do?
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Nov 28, 2007 11:50:39 GMT -5
I don't mind a Ric Flair retirement angle, but I don't like this particular one. Basically it boils down to the extremely stale "Do what Vince says or he fires you" routine that we can't seem to flush. Seriously, I know that some people probably like it but I'm just sick of it. We've been watching that angle for the past 10 years.
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Post by Big L on Nov 28, 2007 13:20:49 GMT -5
i love this angle....yea maybe we can see one last title run during this angle.....and i agree on the part that Vince will more than likely be the one to pin Flair and sending him inro retirement.....i'd say Vince vs Flair at WM24
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 28, 2007 13:40:38 GMT -5
Anti climactic. You KNOW someone (HHH, Orton, HBK) will be the one to beat him or cause him the loss that ends his career. It's not a new angle. And when we don't learn our history, what are we doomed to do? No, it's not a new angle. Hell, didn't they already do this angle with Flair already?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 28, 2007 13:42:30 GMT -5
Anti climactic. You KNOW someone (HHH, Orton, HBK) will be the one to beat him or cause him the loss that ends his career. It's not a new angle. And when we don't learn our history, what are we doomed to do? No, it's not a new angle. Hell, didn't they already do this angle with Flair already? They did it with Curt Hennig in November 99 in WCW, and they did it with Goldberg in 2000-01. Not really a big fan of these storylines.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 28, 2007 13:45:35 GMT -5
No, it's not a new angle. Hell, didn't they already do this angle with Flair already? They did it with Curt Hennig in November 99 in WCW, and they did it with Goldberg in 2000-01. Not really a big fan of these storylines. I'd swear that they did it with Flair as well around the time he had the IC title. Maybe I just dreamed it.
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Post by humorousled on Nov 28, 2007 13:45:53 GMT -5
I am undecided about the angle right now. I want Flair to have one last run and I would love him to retire as champ at Wrestlemania, but, I am afriad that WWE will screw this up and have him lose to Vince or something equally stupid like that. Also, this angle screams "Russo" to me because back in 2000 in WCW, Russo had Goldberg do this exact angle where he had to beat his original winning streak and not lose a match or he was fired. Just put in retired and this is the same angle. And if Flair's retirement match is at Wreslemania, that would be the main event of the entire show and no one would care about anything that came after it. It would be exactly like Wrestlemania 18 where Hogan and the Rock had their epic battle and for fans the show was over since that was the real main event in their minds while the final two title matches (the women's title and Jericho losing to Triple H for the undisputed title) were put after that match and no one cared at all. Flair's match has to be the last match of the night because no match or moment could possibly follow it. And I wanted Flair's last match to be a win not a defeat. Flair shouldn't go out on a loosing note. He deserves much better. And I would love to see one more run with him and the Horsemen but I know that won't happen due to Vince's ego and arrogance.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 28, 2007 14:21:38 GMT -5
I like the angle because of the possibilities.
On the other hand, I don't like the angles because of the possibilities.
Nevermind that the concept is rehashed, if they can handle this right it will be a great thing to see. I don't want the win to go to Vince, HBK, HHH, or Orton though. They can be involved in the angle, but they can't get the win or be responsible for Flair's loss indirectly. That would cheapen it for a lot of us.
Oh, on the night that he loses if at Wrestlemania, to see Arn, Windam, Tully, and JJ Dillon do an old school Horseman run in would be worth the price of admission.
f*** it throw. Sting in there and I'll cry like my first child was being born from marking so hard.
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Post by Garee on Nov 28, 2007 14:39:27 GMT -5
I think it's great
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Post by uncleslam on Nov 28, 2007 14:42:23 GMT -5
Oh hell yay, especially since I suggested something like it a few months ago. My idea was for Flair to win the title, and then declare that he'll retire when he loses it.
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