Are they hotshotting y2j/orton?

[zerosignel]

With jericho just comig back many people thought he would be right into the rumble, win that and go to mania.
But by giving the fans the match at armeggedon is this rushing the fued and not giving it enough time to progress?

[Celgress]

Yes, it need a little more build up in my book.

[Jam]

Yeah. I wanted alittle bit more build up. I would totally mark for Jericho winning the Rumble. If it's not him, I hope it's Edge if he doesn't win the title at Armageddon.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

I get the feeling it will be dragged out a bit more.
The general manager of RAW has to greenlight the match, remember?
The same guy that Jericho pissed in his cup of tea?
I don't think Regal's gonna be to quick to jump to giving Jericho a title shot.

It's all kayfabey, baby.

[Lancers]

It was either Jericho or Super Crazy going for the WWE Title. So, yeah, I totally think they screwed the pooch on this.

[Palatial Regalia]

No, Orton is terrible and extremely boring. WWE needs to get the title off him immediately. I would rather watch Batista then Orton.

[kwydjebo]

Is Y2J Facing Orton at Armegeddon?

I hope not. I love Y2J and hate Orton, but I agree completely that its too soon.
I loved Jericho's return, I think its good for him to declare his intention for the title belt, but Orton (And others like Santino last night)should be dismissive and tie him up in other things for a while....all the time he can continue to make it known what he wants.
That is how you do a title chase...not unlimited title shots (Which a guy keeps losing), not "I want the belt" and the next week, we have the match. Have the guy want the champ...have him (initially) legitimately stymied, denied a shot (while he continues to try and get in the champ's face and call him out), and then eventually when he's worthy, maybe have the champ do all he can to avoid giving the guy the shot....then you get a money match.
Last night we saw Jericho invoke the image of the Cookie monster....the longer this thing runs the more quality we're bound to see.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

avalanchealvarez said:

I get the feeling it will be dragged out a bit more.
The general manager of RAW has to greenlight the match, remember?
The same guy that Jericho pissed in his cup of tea?
I don't think Regal's gonna be to quick to jump to giving Jericho a title shot.

It's all kayfabey, baby.

I hope that Jericho feuds with Regal down the road (leading into Regal getting back into the ring), but I'm not holding my breath for that.

[Deleted]

Yeah.

I was hoping they wouldn't do Orton vs. Jericho, one-on-one, until WrestleMania. That's the perfect scenario for this, considering that it's one of the biggest (and better) storylines at the moment. It would make sense that Jericho, who is "saving us" from Orton, wins the title he returned for at 'Mania. He would have effectively "saved us".

What they could've done is book, say, Orton vs. Kennedy vs. Michaels vs. Jericho at Armageddon, with Orton cheating to retain the belt or something to that effect. This would give the fans a taste of Orton vs. Jericho. Then, Jericho would win the Rumble, going on to face and defeat Orton at WrestleMania.

[MGH]

I was actually hoping last week and the promo this week were just going to plant seeds for a future title shot at Rumble at the earliest. When Santino came out I actually had some hope that they were moving Jericho off to get warmed back up for a bit before the title match, but then he reappeared at the main event. I'm not complaining mind you, Jericho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Orton, but a little more build would have been nice.

[Red Impact]

Given that every fued spans 3 PPV's and 4 months of Raws, I don't think we'll be complaining about that when it's finally over.

[Mozenrath]

mygreatesthour said:

I was actually hoping last week and the promo this week were just going to plant seeds for a future title shot at Rumble at the earliest. When Santino came out I actually had some hope that they were moving Jericho off to get warmed back up for a bit before the title match, but then he reappeared at the main event. I'm not complaining mind you, Jericho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Orton, but a little more build would have been nice.

You forget:

Randy STILL hasn't given Jericho an answer, and he can always say no.

[MGH]

kiddobradley said:

mygreatesthour said:

I was actually hoping last week and the promo this week were just going to plant seeds for a future title shot at Rumble at the earliest. When Santino came out I actually had some hope that they were moving Jericho off to get warmed back up for a bit before the title match, but then he reappeared at the main event. I'm not complaining mind you, Jericho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Orton, but a little more build would have been nice.

You forget:

Randy STILL hasn't given Jericho an answer, and he can always say no.

www.wwe.com/shows/armageddon/matches/554660432/preview/

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kiddobradley said:

mygreatesthour said:

I was actually hoping last week and the promo this week were just going to plant seeds for a future title shot at Rumble at the earliest. When Santino came out I actually had some hope that they were moving Jericho off to get warmed back up for a bit before the title match, but then he reappeared at the main event. I'm not complaining mind you, Jericho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Orton, but a little more build would have been nice.

You forget:

Randy STILL hasn't given Jericho an answer, and he can always say no.

Orton said yes. Its on WWE.com the match happens at Armageddon.

[Mozenrath]

mygreatesthour said:

kiddobradley said:

You forget:

Randy STILL hasn't given Jericho an answer, and he can always say no.

www.wwe.com/shows/armageddon/matches/554660432/preview/

Oh.

Alright then.

[Hiroshi Hase]

I never really watched a lot of Raw to see how boring Orton was, but he kinda was a heat killer last night during the Flair promo. I don't know if it's the delivery of his lines, or anything but he sucked all the heat out of the arena when he was talking to Flair.

And no reply or anything from Ric either, they just stared at each other awkwardly as they went to commercial. And it's not like it's just smarks who think that as obviously someone in WWE thinks it as well otherwise they would not have let Jericho say that about him last week.

[Mozenrath]

yjc1019 said:

I never really watched a lot of Raw to see how boring Orton was, but he kinda was a heat killer last night during the Flair promo. I don't know if it's the delivery of his lines, or anything but he sucked all the heat out of the arena when he was talking to Flair.

And no reply or anything from Ric either, they just stared at each other awkwardly as they went to commercial. And it's not like it's just smarks who think that as obviously someone in WWE thinks it as well otherwise they would not have let Jericho say that about him last week.

To be fair, I think a lot of it was that people REALLY probably did think Orton was going to win, or at least headkick Flair.

[Hiroshi Hase]

kiddobradley said:

yjc1019 said:

I never really watched a lot of Raw to see how boring Orton was, but he kinda was a heat killer last night during the Flair promo. I don't know if it's the delivery of his lines, or anything but he sucked all the heat out of the arena when he was talking to Flair.

And no reply or anything from Ric either, they just stared at each other awkwardly as they went to commercial. And it's not like it's just smarks who think that as obviously someone in WWE thinks it as well otherwise they would not have let Jericho say that about him last week.

To be fair, I think a lot of it was that people REALLY probably did think Orton was going to win, or at least headkick Flair.

Perhaps, but I think it would've got more heat,IMO if Edge had been in that position (I know he's on SD, just saying as I think he's a better heel) to face Flair.

Personally, I don't think Orton is bad, just that I find him boring nowadays.

[Mozenrath]

yjc1019 said:

kiddobradley said:

To be fair, I think a lot of it was that people REALLY probably did think Orton was going to win, or at least headkick Flair.

Perhaps, but I think it would've got more heat,IMO if Edge had been in that position (I know he's on SD, just saying as I think he's a better heel) to face Flair.

Personally, I don't think Orton is bad, just that I find him boring nowadays.

I can understand that. Orton is a good heel, but Edge has reached levels far beyond him.

[krzykraka]

there needs to be a least a month of Orton/Y2J costing each other matches and backstage attacks before the first match ever happens. The should take notes from the MVP/Hardy feud but a more serious approach.