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Post by Jiren on Dec 4, 2007 19:10:48 GMT -5
be fair the crowds in Carolina's have sucked this past fortnight
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Post by Joker on Dec 4, 2007 19:14:57 GMT -5
The crowd is quiet in general, this isn't the attitude era anymore.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 4, 2007 19:29:46 GMT -5
The crowd is quiet in general, this isn't the attitude era anymore. Exactly. Wrestling fans are too spoiled, and fans the world over in general. Internet has made us expect the world for free.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 17:35:20 GMT -5
Well...being from SC, and having been at the show, I can tell you that Jericho came out to literally no pop...biggest pop of the night was for the APA, followed by Jeff Hardy, and then Hardcore Holly in the preshow, ironically enough. (A LOUD "Hardcore" chant started)...honestly, it doesn't have to do with overness, just the fact that SC wrestling fans prefer "rasslers" over annoying Canadians like Jericho...he's really not popular here, and a lot of the kids have no idea who he is.
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Post by rubber johnny on Dec 5, 2007 17:40:22 GMT -5
The crowd is quiet in general, this isn't the attitude era anymore. i'm not expecting them to go wild for test or albert like back in the day but come on... razor ramon's theme song
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Post by scotthall555 on Dec 5, 2007 18:04:18 GMT -5
Well...being from SC, and having been at the show, I can tell you that Jericho came out to literally no pop...biggest pop of the night was for the APA, followed by Jeff Hardy, and then Hardcore Holly in the preshow, ironically enough. (A LOUD "Hardcore" chant started)...honestly, it doesn't have to do with overness, just the fact that SC wrestling fans prefer "rasslers" over annoying Canadians like Jericho...he's really not popular here, and a lot of the kids have no idea who he is. I stand by my original quote that started this thread, everyone thinks he sucks. Theres proof that South Carolina doesn't like him. Next everyone will be saying "well....its just the American fans that don't like him....and so on and so on", but I'll admit I'm wrong come next Monday and he gets big cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 18:07:47 GMT -5
personally... i'm from canada and i can tell you that if he came here he would be loved... see Edge/Cena in Toronto (i think) where Edge was cheered over Cena.
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Post by Fruity Delicious Skittles on Dec 5, 2007 18:34:56 GMT -5
I just think he's being a face too much.
Get back to that edgy Y2J. Even when he was a face he was more of a tweener.
And please can we have a SHUT THE HELL UP this week?
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Post by mothership on Dec 5, 2007 18:46:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the super face Jericho is part of the problem...that and the 2 year lay off leaves a lot of people unfamiliar with him...and the fact that his look has changed a bit probably makes it harder for some to immediately recoginize him. Plus...let's be honest, he's feuding with Randy Orton, who doesn't seem to be bringing down the house either.
Of course, maybe people don't care anymore...that's possible. (But I think some are over reacting. Pops are subjective. I've been to shows where I thought pops were massive, and then seen people post online that there was "zero" pop. Hard to say who is right or wrong.)
Personally, he was always one of my favorites...his WCW years were spectacular...I always felt WWE watered him down. He arrived as an instant main eventer in the eyes of fans, despite never having played that role in WCW. Then, they chose to keep him down in the midcard for far longer than necessary, when it was clear the fans were behind him (HHH title reversal anyone?) I also feel they dropped the ball during his feud with Rock...at the time, Jericho was drawing an equal reaction and the crowds were split. I think if they had turned the Rock heel instead of Jericho at that time, Y2J would've ended up much more over in the long run. Or if they'd both gone tweener I think that might've helped. I just always felt that feud, while great...took some of the wind out of Jericho's sails.
He is better as a tweener or face, IMO (despite my thoughts above).
But Jericho will eventually grow on the new fans, I think. He's never had much problem getting over on his own, despite bad booking, or lack of push.
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