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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 9:55:50 GMT -5
No thanks. She gets the crowd reaction of the average cruiserweight though, so she's one step closer.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Dec 5, 2007 10:09:02 GMT -5
Beth Phoenix should be in my bed. And NOT this Beth Phoenix either.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Dec 5, 2007 14:25:59 GMT -5
Maybe she should win the IC title. That would be groundbreaking entertainment! boooooooooooooooooo
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 14:32:33 GMT -5
No....I don't want to see blonde Chyna Seconded. It wouldn't work as Chyna got over through her association with the largely popular DX, Beth has nothing to go on.
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Post by AriadosMan on Dec 5, 2007 15:23:17 GMT -5
I wonder if Beth would get over as a heel if they had her come out and beat up Lillian Garcia instead of random face Divas.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 5, 2007 15:29:03 GMT -5
Not just no, but hell no.
She's perfect for representing women's wrestling, plus I find her hot. She's like a real life version of Power Girl.
She's hot to me, and i'd hit.
I don't like seeing men fight women, I'm sorry I just don't.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 15:32:17 GMT -5
I wonder if Beth would get over as a heel if they had her come out and beat up Lillian Garcia instead of random face Divas. If the crowd doesn't give a crap about Lillian enough to buy her CD's, why would they care if Beth beat her down?
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Dec 5, 2007 15:35:20 GMT -5
Apparently a woman can't have a little muscle without being accused of having a penis.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 5, 2007 15:37:46 GMT -5
Why on earth would you de-push her like that?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 5, 2007 15:37:48 GMT -5
Not just no, but hell no. She's perfect for representing women's wrestling, plus I find her hot. She's like a real life version of Power Girl. She's hot to me, and i'd hit. I don't like seeing men fight women, I'm sorry I just don't. Wow, she DOES look like Power Girl.
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Post by RedSmile on Dec 5, 2007 15:38:11 GMT -5
Not even a little bit. I want to see some competition for her in the women's division.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Dec 5, 2007 16:57:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing her fight men, especially since right now there is no credible competition for her in the womens division. But they should give her more credible competion by maybe hiring women wrestlers who match her size or ability. Has there ever been a female counterpart to say shawn michaels or chris jericho? That would be the type of competion that beth needs. As a side note I find it unbelievable that all of the women wrestlers would cower when attacked by a male wrestler. It has always bugged me that during a match like say Kane vs. Trish that Trish would cower into a corner instead of making at least a token attempt at defence.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 16:59:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing her fight men, especially since right now there is no credible competition for her in the womens division. But they should give her more credible competion by maybe hiring women wrestlers who match her size or ability. Has there ever been a female counterpart to say shawn michaels or chris jericho? That would be the type of competion that beth needs. As a side note I find it unbelievable that all of the women wrestlers would cower when attacked by a male wrestler. It has always bugged me that during a match like say Kane vs. Trish that Trish would cower into a corner instead of making at least a token attempt at defence. Well, any attempt would be met with anhiliation by Kane and the fans wouldn't buy it at all if little 103 pound Trish was throwing live rounds at the 320 pound Kane and having him reeling. Plus his character is supposed to make you cower, he has guys like MVP running from him, what makes Trish so special?
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Dec 5, 2007 17:09:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing her fight men, especially since right now there is no credible competition for her in the womens division. But they should give her more credible competion by maybe hiring women wrestlers who match her size or ability. Has there ever been a female counterpart to say shawn michaels or chris jericho? That would be the type of competion that beth needs. As a side note I find it unbelievable that all of the women wrestlers would cower when attacked by a male wrestler. It has always bugged me that during a match like say Kane vs. Trish that Trish would cower into a corner instead of making at least a token attempt at defence. Well, any attempt would be met with anhiliation by Kane and the fans wouldn't buy it at all if little 103 pound Trish was throwing live rounds at the 320 pound Kane and having him reeling. Plus his character is supposed to make you cower, he has guys like MVP running from him, what makes Trish so special? When I said that I didn't that kane should be rocking and reeling from Trish punching him or what ever but she would've at least tried even if the end result was Kane no-selling it ala sherrie's chair shot(i think it was a chair shot) that was no sold by the warrior way back when.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 17:11:31 GMT -5
Well, any attempt would be met with anhiliation by Kane and the fans wouldn't buy it at all if little 103 pound Trish was throwing live rounds at the 320 pound Kane and having him reeling. Plus his character is supposed to make you cower, he has guys like MVP running from him, what makes Trish so special? When I said that I didn't that kane should be rocking and reeling from Trish punching him or what ever but she would've at least tried even if the end result was Kane no-selling it ala sherrie's chair shot(i think it was a chair shot) that was no sold by the warrior way back when. Kane's character is pretty intimidating towards men and women (or at least it was before he turned face), so the scenario of Trish or any other diva being afraid to try and hit him wouldn't be a far-fetched scenario.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Dec 5, 2007 17:21:32 GMT -5
When I said that I didn't that kane should be rocking and reeling from Trish punching him or what ever but she would've at least tried even if the end result was Kane no-selling it ala sherrie's chair shot(i think it was a chair shot) that was no sold by the warrior way back when. Kane's character is pretty intimidating towards men and women (or at least it was before he turned face), so the scenario of Trish or any other diva being afraid to try and hit him wouldn't be a far-fetched scenario. Okay, I see your point with Kane-trish. But, there have been scenarios in the past where a diva has defended herself against a male wrestler and it was believable: the Lita and hardy boys fued with the undertaker. Lita fought back against the undertaker several times during that fued.
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Post by plushtar on Dec 5, 2007 17:23:27 GMT -5
WWE should watch the Knockouts Division like hawk and pounce on the Knockouts as soon as their contracts expire. Someone like Gail Kim, or even Kong (if Beth turns face) would do well. But someone like ODB seems like she would be more interesting in publicly molesting the Glamazon rather than defeating her. Madison & Williams would only do well if Maria doesen't want to be used as the Glamazon's chew toy anymore.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 17:23:47 GMT -5
Kane's character is pretty intimidating towards men and women (or at least it was before he turned face), so the scenario of Trish or any other diva being afraid to try and hit him wouldn't be a far-fetched scenario. Okay, I see your point with Kane-trish. But, there have been scenarios in the past where a diva has defended herself against a male wrestler and it was believable: the Lita and hardy boys fued with the undertaker. Lita fought back against the undertaker several times during that fued. I do agree there are instances where the woman should mount some type of offense like in the one you mentioned, but if it's a monster like a Kane or Umaga, it would be alright if the person was petrified with fear as that is something that could really happen.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Dec 5, 2007 17:38:11 GMT -5
Okay, I see your point with Kane-trish. But, there have been scenarios in the past where a diva has defended herself against a male wrestler and it was believable: the Lita and hardy boys fued with the undertaker. Lita fought back against the undertaker several times during that fued. I do agree there are instances where the woman should mount some type of offense like in the one you mentioned, but if it's a monster like a Kane or Umaga, it would be alright if the person was petrified with fear as that is something that could really happen. hypothetically, would it be believable for Beth Phenix to cower against Kane?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 17:39:26 GMT -5
WWE should watch the Knockouts Division like hawk and pounce on the Knockouts as soon as their contracts expire. Someone like Gail Kim, or even Kong (if Beth turns face) would do well. But someone like ODB seems like she would be more interesting in publicly molesting the Glamazon rather than defeating her. Madison & Williams would only do well if Maria doesen't want to be used as the Glamazon's chew toy anymore. Beth vs Kong would be like watching a joshi match, and Melina vs Gail would be extremely mat-based and extraordinarily technical. So I have no problem with this idea!
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