Kyle
Team Rocket
It's Still Real To Me!
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Post by Kyle on Dec 3, 2007 23:04:22 GMT -5
-- THE WWE NEEDS A STABLE OF WRESTLERS DRESSED UP AS THE 'BASEBALL FURIES' FROM THE FILM, 'THE WARRIORS' ... and they need it NOW ! :8 uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mabLGUTql-4if only they pushed him... uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xEpPnh5UHeE"I'll shove that bad up your ass and turn you into a Popsicle." Now why can't current superstars have awesome catch-phrases like that?
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Dec 3, 2007 23:05:27 GMT -5
I marked to high heaven tonight when the APA came out.
I might come up with some more tonight...
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The OP
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
changed his name
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Post by The OP on Dec 3, 2007 23:16:18 GMT -5
I think Randy Orton can be a great heel, but he needs someone he has good chemistry with. His feud with Cena was shaping up to be a classic.
On that note, I hope Cena goes after Orton immediately upon his return. I'd like to see Orton retain until Cena comes back to challenge him. After that I don't care who wins as long as they have some kind of epic match.
I think CM Punk is a very good wrestler. I won't call him overrated, but I think there are wrestlers in WWE who are just as good that get trashed on this forum all the time. It's not so much that Punk is overrated, but the others are underrated by comparison.
JBL was a perfect heel champion. Everyone hated him and he made people believe he would lose the title and then retain. It was textbook quality. He was better at his job than Triple H, because people always assumed that Triple H would win.
The JBL/Eddie Guerrero feud was an underappreciated classic.
I like John Morrison's promos. The fact that many don't like his delivery is the only thing preventing a face turn. So, maybe that's a good thing?
I'm not really into masked wrestlers. One of the things I appreciate about some of my favorite wrestlers are their facial expressions.
On that note, I always thought Kane was really lame until he lost the mask. I saw a poor man's Undertaker in a red suit until then.
I don't think guys as big as Big Show or Khali should sell for guys as small as Mysterio. If guys like that are gonna bump for cruiserweights then there's no point.
I think Jericho is a great in-ring performer but mediocre at best on the mic.
The Rock obviously cut very effective promos, but his style never totally appealed to me.
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Post by Dick Foley on Dec 4, 2007 4:57:08 GMT -5
- I haven't watched wrestling in over a year. I work nights.
- I haven't watched an entire Smackdown since 2000.
- I miss eYada.
- I met David Hasselhoff.
- I don't think it can be called DX when it is only Hunter and Shawn.
- Mickie is fat and pretty slutty, judging from the pictures from back in the day.
- I try to watch TNA and it bores me to tears.
- ECW was overrated. They only had a hot run for about 2 or 3 years and went bankrupt. Wrestling in bingo halls should not be considered "glorious".
- Candice has grown on me.
- Molly is often underrated.
- I still mark for chair shots.
- Mr. McMahon is the best heel ever.
- The IWC takes wrestling too seriously.
- I think people need to give it a rest on the whole "Beniot" thing. It was a tragidy but, life goes on. You guys act like grade schoolers when someone drops the tray during lunch. "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"
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The Heff
Team Rocket
The Champ is Here!
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Post by The Heff on Dec 4, 2007 5:47:02 GMT -5
I miss Cena.
Orton needs improving on the mic. Looks too much like he's tring to recall his script.
Not looking forward to Lashley coming back.
I honestly don't mind Batista. But I prefer Edge as Main Event.
MVP is a future main eventer and I love his gimmick.
CM Punk is a good wrestler but over rated in my opinion. I prefer Morrison.
Delighted Y2J is back.
Santino is great as a heel.
The Tag Divisions should be scrapped or else just have one Tag division for all 3 brands.
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Dec 4, 2007 5:53:16 GMT -5
I don't miss Lashley at all. I forgot he was on the roster until someone said something about him a few days ago.
Michael Cole is not that bad of a play-by-play guy
I enjoy watching squash matches
I hate when WWE goes to any arena in California. The crowds usually suck in those arenas
Joey Styles should be the successor to J.R.'s chair on Raw
I don't Cena.
We may give Batista alot of crap(and some of it is well deserved) but so far his matches with Taker are really entertaining.
Randy Orton has the best ring psychology of anyone in the WWE today.
I still like Kennedy.
I don't really care for Jericho.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Dec 4, 2007 5:55:50 GMT -5
-Edge and Mr. Kennedy are the lamest excuses for heels in all of the current WWE. Big Daddy friggin' V does a better job at displaying heel antics than those two nerds. Edge with his one facial expression (the popping his eyes out while grasping the top of his head...lame) and Kennedy being Timmy's extra retarded brother just aren't doing anything for me and never will. Never. This won't change.
-I miss Cena, but just by a smidge. Not so much his matches, they always bored me, but for the most part his promos. Not his serious ones, they're as lame as Edge pointless promos, but his wacky Cena ones. Those are almost good times.
-Speaking of good times, Cabana needs to be called up. Don't care about it being 'too early' or whatever jive those turkeys want to toss around, Colt would be loved!
-The Undertaker is The Undertaker. Shawn Michaels is Shawn Michaels. Jeff Hardy is Jeff Hardy. Brian Major is Brian Major. Matt Hardy is Matt Hardy. MVP is MVP. Finlay is Finlay. CM Punk is CM Punk. Jamie Noble is Jamie Noble...and that makes them better than everyone else. Except for one another, they're all on the same scale of being better than us and their co-workers.
-I want Bobby Lashley back. But not with a mic in his hand. As a grappler, he's more than decent with his amateur stylings and bald head.
-The extras on Shawn's dvd weren't very awesome. Looking at it now, there's probably only three of the matches I'll ever want to watch again (Vs. Brainbusters, Vs. Jarrett, Vs. La Resistance). Bret clearly won the dvd extras battle. If there was one. Was there one? Shawn got screwed.
and kinda off the topic...
-Don't remember who mentioned it on this board, but someone suggested a Goofus and Gallant gimmick, and I couldn't agree more. London and Kendrick would suit this well. Paul will be Goofus. There can be no other way.
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Slim Loves Lily
El Dandy
I'm gonna want the milksteak boiled over hard.
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Post by Slim Loves Lily on Dec 4, 2007 7:06:57 GMT -5
I laughed when Batista interrupted Khali's dance party.
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Ken Ivory
Hank Scorpio
This sorta thing IS my bag, baby.
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Post by Ken Ivory on Dec 4, 2007 7:07:22 GMT -5
I think there's too much negativity towards Russo! It has gotten to the point where he has become a scapegoat that's blamed for every bad angle in wrestling from the mid 90's onward. Example, the Last Rite's match, the crowd chanted "Fire Russo". Why? Russo doesn't have the final say at TNA creative. The booking team at the time was Jarrett and Dutch Mantell (I think) and they obviously didn't nix it! Yet, we don't hear any blame towards them. Any time TNA comes up with another ridiculous gimmick match, it has to be Vince Russo and no-one else behind it!
Sure, Russo was responsible for some questionable decisions and may be a little dillusional but hey, it's wrestling! Who isn't?! I just don't think it's fair that he be called out for crap he wasn't (solely) responsible for.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 4, 2007 9:40:34 GMT -5
-I wasn't really impressed with Jericho's return, and don't really care about his feud with Orton. Maybe when he moves onto someone like Trips or whenever Cena returns, I might care a bit more.
-Women's wrestling will never be a top draw in America as most men only want to see T&A (no not Test and Albert or the promotion in Orlando) when the females are out. Women's wrestling will always be pissbreak material to me.
-Kennedy is overrated,IMO.
-I really liked Raw/Smackdown in 2002 and was the last year where I could sit down and watch an entire show without being bored.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Dec 4, 2007 10:35:50 GMT -5
- In my honest opinion, 1997-era WWF is better than 1998-1999 WWF.
- I still don't believe Lashley is as bad as some make him out to be, but he shouldn't have been pushed as hard as he was over the past year.
- Losing a match =/= being buried.
- Still don't see what's so great about Kennedy.
- Austin bores me now, as does Mick Foley.
- John Cena was one of the top workers in 2007. (Yes, you read that right)
- However, I think the HBK/Cena match from Raw in April is overrated.
- I still like Hardcore Holly.
- Some of the Batista hate here is undeserved. It's not his fault they decided to give him multiple title shots.
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Post by Fandjango Unchained on Dec 4, 2007 10:42:12 GMT -5
- I don't care for CM Punk or Stevie Richards.
- I miss Maven.
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Post by shiranui on Dec 4, 2007 10:47:35 GMT -5
- Some of the Batista hate here is undeserved. It's not his fault they decided to give him multiple title shots. I don't think too many people here really hate Batista, at least I am mostly just tired of seeing him in every SD main event ever and hearing Michael Cole getting all giddy over Big Dave every week no matter what he does... *Batista acts like an ass* "OH MY, FIGHTING WORDS FROM THE ANIMAL BATISTA!" *Batista punches out an old lady* "OH MY! THE ANIMAL IS DOING WHAT HE HAS TO DO, JOHN!" *Batista kicks a puppy* "OH MY, THE ANIMAL JUST MADE A STATEMENT! HE IS A FIGHTING CHAMPION!" And besides, he makes a great subject for photoshops.
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Post by britishbulldog on Dec 4, 2007 10:51:33 GMT -5
I never liked Flair and always found his matches boring. I liked 80's wrestling better than any other time. I think HHH should be top dog on Raw. Taker needs to go back to ABA, cuz he looks old as hell doing the deadman HBK should retire. He is still good but miles away from what he used to be. Umaga is a great #2 heel and should loose most matches, to help push baby faces up to Orton
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 4, 2007 10:52:56 GMT -5
-Edge and HHH are my two favourite wrestlers ever, always have been and always will be. Sting is also up there.
-Rey Mysterio is just below them, and I loved his title reign, especially his match against JBL at Judgement Day and I welcome another title win.
-I liked Miz since Tough Enough (and Fear Factor) and wanted him to win, and I was really pleased to hear that he got offered a contract.
-Miz and Morrison have actually overtaken Kennedy, MVP and Punk as my favourite rising stars.
-However I still love Kennedy and his interview mishap didn't change how I viewed him at all, he was just being loyal to his boss. My love for Kennedy, MVP and Punk never lessened, just the Miz/Morrison love increased.
-As much as I like HHH's face role, I will never tire of his old Game/Cereberal Assassin/Evolution/King of Kings heel days, that was without a doubt the greatest character in wrestling history in my eyes.
-The only Hogan I seemed to care for was the heel nWo Hogan.
-I seriously believed Kurt was going to beat JBL for the WWE title on that episode of Smackdown they had in '04.
-I found Undertaker/Khali from Judgement Day 2006 to be a very good match which told a great story, Khali looked like the toughest thing on the planet afterwards and they could've done anything with him and it would've looked credible. No matter what happens with his career, I will always remember that image of him squashing Taker and pinning him with one foot and thinking "wow".
-Judgement Day 2006 was probably one of the best PPVs all up in a LONG time (especially considering it was a SD Brand Only PPV)
-I REALLY miss Booker T on WWE TV.
-Jericho's return was the biggest true markout moment for me since the DX reunion.
-Vince rules and I never tire of him.
-I am convince Shane is gonna seriously injure himself one day, then get back up and do that spot again.
-I've always marked for Holly
-I don't want to see Flair retire, the day he truly stops will be the day Wrestling dies and Sports Entertainment officially takes over for me.
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Dec 4, 2007 11:11:19 GMT -5
-i love the boogeyman -both the miz and batista have grown on me loads this year -i think steamboat/savage is overrated. -i like mark henry -wrestling needs less (i said LESS) moonsaults -i wouldn't say no to vickie guererro. -i never really got into the outsiders -i think cade and murdoch are great -i like the coach
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Post by Double Chickenwing w/ Bridge on Dec 4, 2007 11:40:33 GMT -5
-I don't like the current "let's bring in every big name we've had, just for a little bit of ratings" attitude -CM Punk is NOT overrated. He is not being used to his full potential. Somebody, please, give him the stick. -The future of this company is Colt Cabana. I sit waiting his call-up. -I can't stand the Miz. He annoys the crap outta me. -I'm getting tired of all the big guys, Snitsky, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, Kane, Taker. At this point they might as well be the same person. -Big Dave deserves everything he gets from around here. It may not be his fault that he gets endless title shots. I don't care. I'm sick of seeing him in the ME. -I don't miss Cena. -Jericho's return was ruined for me by the save us hype. Poor writing... I don't like the codebreaker either. I like the move itself, I don't like it as a finisher. -I'm looking forward to seeing Carlito in TNA. -It's about time that they did something with Shelton. -I miss Davari. -Beth Phoenix/Mickie is the first women's match in awhile on the 'e' that I'm excited about. -Santino was better in OVW. Period. -Taker, HBK, and Flair (while I enjoyed these guys at some point) need to retire asap. -Coach needs to stop making in ring appearances. -Who's this Bobby Lashley everyone keeps speaking of? I definitely don't miss him. I wish they would use him as a more technical guy. He bores me as a powerhouse. -I can't remember the last time I enjoyed an entire 'e' program. -Noble deserves his push. (He is a former world champion after all).
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 4, 2007 12:49:07 GMT -5
- The most fun I ever had as a wrestling fan was from 1999-2001.
- While I'm not against it being incorporated, I believe that wrestling can survive without MMA influence.
- I have no problem with the WWE referring to their wrestlers as "superstars". I fact, I kind of prefer it.
- I don't think CM Punk should turn heel for quite a while.
- I would like to see more driver variations permitted in the WWE, but only (and I mean only) if they are treated as definite match enders.
- Mickie James should be the focal point of the WWE women's division.
- When Cena returns, I think I am going to mark.
- I'd like to see Rey Mysterio get another world title run before he retires.
- I loved asshole heel HHH, but I thought that he should have won the new WHC in a tournament rather than just have it handed to him. That bothered me.
- Charlie Hass never did anything for me outside of TWGTT.
- I think some fans care about heel Miz more than they let on, and actually want to see him get beat down rather than just go away as they might claim.
- "Humiliation" moves like the 5-Knuckle Shuffle and the People's Elbow are awesome, and I think more workers should have at least one.
- I don't miss the Lashley I most recently had on my TV, and I hope he's repackaged somehow upon his return.
- Cade & Murdoch > Londrick.
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Desi
Dennis Stamp
Do Not Approve
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Post by Desi on Dec 4, 2007 13:07:25 GMT -5
- I think Kane has been AWESOME since his de-masking. Now I look back when he was masked and I can't take him seriously.
- And keeping with the BoD note, I HATED Taker's ABA run. Yes, I laughed whenever he said something funny or smart but that is not the Taker I know and love. I think this current version is his best yet.
- I hope Rey Mysterio gets another title run because his first run was marred by all that Eddiesploitation BS.
- I've been loving HHH's current Face run, I really hope he doesn't turn again soon though my gut feeling tells me otherwise.
- Though the Photoshop threads are hilarious, put me in with the "I don't get all the Batista hate" crowd.
- I mark for all the McMahons not named Vincent Kennedy. Yes, that includes Stephanie.
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Post by B'Cup x on Dec 4, 2007 13:39:03 GMT -5
I like how wrestling shirts are becoming more subtle/ better looking and easier to wear without looking foolish, but i hate how they now all look soo similar and generic
William Regal is possibly my favourite wrestler in WWE atm and id love him to form a tag team (winning the belts) with finlay. Market them as two tough take no crap SOBs
When Cabana gets called up, i honestly dont believe WWE can push him hard enough. I can see him becoming this generations Foley
Ive never been a fan of either HBK or undertaker. Whilst i appreciate both mens talent and can understand why theyre at the top, theyve just never done it for me
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