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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 8, 2007 23:16:25 GMT -5
Well Khali always messes up. That what happens when you don't allow a man too train. He was basicly skipped from training because of his size to big federations. It's not just because Taker becoming a bitter old man. It's these guys mess up and he lets them know that they did. Actually, they did send him to training, because Bill "Hugh Morris" DeMott talked about how he completely hated him. DeMott said that Khali was sent to him in order to "Get his legs underneath of him." so DeMott had him running laps and other things to build Khali's balance. Khali called and complained to the Undertaker (Of all people) and it got to the point where "The Office" told Demott to not have Khali do that. So, Khali basically whined his way out of training, so his faults...are his fault. No matter if I find the guy amusing or not, that's lame.
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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 8, 2007 23:28:21 GMT -5
Well, you can hear him say it twice. ' Times? I didn't hear it at all When he goes for the chokeslam for a second time you can hear him yell "You better not smurfing miss it this time!" or something like that.
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Post by SassovsHart on Dec 8, 2007 23:32:22 GMT -5
This is the second time in two months he lost his cool in the ring, other time being with Chris Masters. Masters has claimed those reports/rumors are false.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Dec 8, 2007 23:53:58 GMT -5
Looked really dangerous. Poor MVP. Stupid Khali needs to learn to work properly. He's been there for almost 2 years now and he still needs guidance?
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Dec 8, 2007 23:55:46 GMT -5
I don't think the boot was a work. Khali was slouched in the corner doing nothing. There was no reason for Undertaker to stop, turn around, and kick Khali in the head. I think it was a legit "Wake up, moron." kick. Well, in all fairness, that's the entire point of this thread.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 8, 2007 23:56:43 GMT -5
This is the second time in two months he lost his cool in the ring, other time being with Chris Masters. Masters has claimed those reports/rumors are false. He just said that his injury wasn't due to Taker I thought
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Dec 9, 2007 0:00:38 GMT -5
Well, you can hear him say it twice. ' Times? I didn't hear it at all Well, once walking to Khali and once walking away from Khali.
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 9, 2007 0:20:14 GMT -5
Everyone keeps think that Undertaker just dropped MVP, but that isn't true, because it involves the assumtion that Undertaker is really lifting him up, or that he's really slamming him. MVP jumps in the air with a little added momentum from Undertaker, and Undertaker just guides his hand down on the way nown, making it appear the he's slamming him. That's how you do the chokeslam, it just looked Like Undertaker dropped him because he didn't follow through with his hand.
Also, Undertaker's kick to the head wasn't done out of frustration. Sure he was frustrated with him, but that's not why he kicked him. It makes no sense for Undertaker to turn around and check on his opponent before pinning MVP, so If he turns around and looks at Khali for real life reasons, he has to do something to him for the fans not to get lost.
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 9, 2007 0:22:29 GMT -5
The position of MVP was probably in a place where he was supposed to go back on his feet or something. Ah, I see. You're probably right. Yeah, he wasn't suppossed to chokeslam him there, but that dosen't mean that Undertaker just dropped him from a real move. The guy that's getting beat up is the one doing all the work. MVP took a bump becuse Khali wasn't there.
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Post by Slim Loves Lily on Dec 9, 2007 0:57:55 GMT -5
God dammit Khali sucks.
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Post by boxieness on Dec 9, 2007 2:43:32 GMT -5
i cant tell what he says the first tiem but the second time is f***ing get it right this time
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Dec 9, 2007 5:28:14 GMT -5
Catch the tombstone piledriver at the end of the match. See the way MVP waves his hands like "no no no no no!" I've never seen that done before - usually the guy taking the move wraps his arms around Taker's legs (which makes it look a little fake).
Nothing to do with this thread, I just thought it added a little realism to the move. Nice job, MVP.
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 9, 2007 5:59:23 GMT -5
Catch the tombstone piledriver at the end of the match. See the way MVP waves his hands like "no no no no no!" I've never seen that done before - usually the guy taking the move wraps his arms around Taker's legs (which makes it look a little fake). Nothing to do with this thread, I just thought it added a little realism to the move. Nice job, MVP. MVP is an amazing seller in that respect, he also does stuff like hooking half-nelsons during pins, but he hooks the arm according to what arm he had worked on during the match. Very minor thing makes it all seem much more realistic.
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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2007 10:02:16 GMT -5
I don't think the boot was a work. Khali was slouched in the corner doing nothing. There was no reason for Undertaker to stop, turn around, and kick Khali in the head. I think it was a legit "Wake up, moron." kick. Look at the force of the kick. I think a pissed off Undertaker would manage a little more force had it been a 'message." Like someone else said..he couldn't simply turn around and check on him without doing something....the kick was part of TRYING to keep the match together and realistic.
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Post by randomranter on Dec 9, 2007 10:11:14 GMT -5
I don't think the boot was a work. Khali was slouched in the corner doing nothing. There was no reason for Undertaker to stop, turn around, and kick Khali in the head. I think it was a legit "Wake up, moron." kick. Look at the force of the kick. I think a pissed off Undertaker would manage a little more force had it been a 'message." Like someone else said..he couldn't simply turn around and check on him without doing something....the kick was part of TRYING to keep the match together and realistic. UT wouldn't have to kick full-force to send a message. I think all he was trying to do was kick him just hard enough to send a message. Kinda like the slap in the back of the head you give your kid when he does something stupid. You don't want to take his head off. You just want it to hurt just enough for him to say "OW" and know not to do it again. Again, there was no reason for UT to mysteriously stop, turn around, and kick a fallen Khali for no noticeable reason. If nobody noticed that Khali screwed up before, they certainly noticed it when UT, obviously pissed off, turned around and kicked him. If UT's goal was to keep the match going and seem realistic, he should have ignored Khali and picked up MVP to try for a second chokeslam. Turning around and kicking Khali brought attention to a botch that fans otherwise might not have even noticed. I still say it was a message.
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Post by tarheelfan on Dec 9, 2007 13:02:07 GMT -5
Undertaker is a legit tough guy, true, but I don't think kicking a 6'11" Punjabi in the head is a good idea under any circumstance... Totally agree. In real life I'd imagine Khali would easily dispatch any wrestler no matter who they are or what their supposed gimmick is. Especially if he was still the size he was when he was Mr. India. Khali may not be the best wrestler but he is sort of a modern day Goliath.
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Post by randomranter on Dec 9, 2007 13:06:56 GMT -5
Undertaker is a legit tough guy, true, but I don't think kicking a 6'11" Punjabi in the head is a good idea under any circumstance... Totally agree. In real life I'd imagine Khali would easily dispatch any wrestler no matter who they are or what their supposed gimmick is. Especially if he was still the size he was when he was Mr. India. Khali may not be the best wrestler but he is sort of a modern day Goliath. Khali would decimate Undertaker without even breaking a sweat. I don't think anybody in here will question that. But if Khali would have retaliated, most likely he would have been wished well in his future endeavors. Especially considering Khali was the one who screwed up in the first place.
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Post by tarheelfan on Dec 9, 2007 13:19:42 GMT -5
Totally agree. In real life I'd imagine Khali would easily dispatch any wrestler no matter who they are or what their supposed gimmick is. Especially if he was still the size he was when he was Mr. India. Khali may not be the best wrestler but he is sort of a modern day Goliath. Khali would decimate Undertaker without even breaking a sweat. I don't think anybody in here will question that. But if Khali would have retaliated, most likely he would have been wished well in his future endeavors. Especially considering Khali was the one who screwed up in the first place. I agree with you. I am not the biggest Undertaker fan but he has meant so much to the WWE.
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Post by normcoleman on Dec 9, 2007 14:53:08 GMT -5
Couldn't they talk in the back afterwards? It looks a bit unprofessional.
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Post by randomranter on Dec 9, 2007 14:59:27 GMT -5
Couldn't they talk in the back afterwards? It looks a bit unprofessional. As far as I know, Khali doesn't understand English. Which means undertaker would be ripping him a new asshole as Khali stood there with this blank, confused look on his face. Could be wrong here, though. While I agree that UT was a bit unprofessional, that's how it's usually handled. They're usually not that obvious about it, though.
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