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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 20:27:51 GMT -5
Everyone says that, but they seem consistant in wanting to push Matt. He's won virtually every match he's been in for a year. He gets huge pops. Hardyz merchandise sells big time. They aren't stupid. Well....yeah. Its "Wait and See" for me at this rate.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 20:19:03 GMT -5
I think Matt working with MVP will be good for both men's careers. The pops are there for Matt, but he's still a midcard guy. I mean X-pac sometimes had pops that rivaled Stone Cold Steve Austin. MVP/Hardy would be great wrestling wise, and on the mic MVP will carry the fued. Which he has shown that he could over the past 6 months. Really climax with a Matt Hardy US title win in a Ladder match, and you have a boneafide star in Matt Hardy, while MVP still comes out looking awesome. Its so obvious what you wrote...and WWE will botch it. Thats the one thing I can depend on WWE these days.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 18:10:14 GMT -5
A lot of ppl want Matt Hardy to get a World title push. But before that he should fued with MVP for the US title. They should face eachother at the Great American Bash. MVP should win that match, then at Summerslam, Matt Hardy should win the title. In 2008 Matt Hardy should win the Rumble and face Edge at Wrestlemania 24. What do u guys think bout that. YES: Its logical NO: WWE hasn't been logical in some time. Besides folks, MVP/Matt Hardy.... Thats an instant easy-booking program to work with for several PPVs. Right? RIGHT?
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 9:19:31 GMT -5
Well, I like to know how Rob Van Damm can leave TNA with his stage name in tact, but not the Dudleys. Whatever its because Paul/Dudleys f***** up or wahtever, I would like to know for clarification. ECW gave birth to the Dudley gimmick, but Van Dam's predates it, I believe, so he owns it. OK, that makes sense to me.
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 9:14:02 GMT -5
If you want to be pissed about it, be pissed at the person who screwed up. Either be pissed at Paul for never handing it over to them as he should of, or be mad at the Dudleys for not making sure. Well, I like to know how Rob Van Damm can leave TNA with his stage name in tact, but not the Dudleys. Whatever its because Paul/Dudleys f***** up or wahtever, I would like to know for clarification.
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 9:04:29 GMT -5
What I still don't understand was WWE forcing the Dudleys to change their name.
Yeah Vince I get it, they were leaving for the competition.....(though then again, Vince owns everything WCW and ECW, so maybe thats why he got away with it.)
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 9:44:47 GMT -5
Sandman vs Johnny Knoxville - Hardcore Match
Can the same man that laughed after his rocket malfunction even last 5 mintues against the beer drinking, chain smoking former 5-time ECW Champion?
Probably.
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 8:27:17 GMT -5
Happy Birthday Hitman.
Please don't kill me.
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Post by rra on Jul 1, 2007 19:15:37 GMT -5
Sad.
I liked FBI back in the day of old ECW. Especially when it became such a parody of Mafia cliches and stereotypes.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 15:14:23 GMT -5
they shouldve tried to go out and get Samoa Joe before Umaga if they wanted a Samoan Bulldozer. Joe would beat Umaga any day in my thoughts Well yeah. I would believe Joe more (anyone saw that brutal kick that made Kurt Angle black out? Jesus....)
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 12:20:53 GMT -5
Raven was the Ric Flair of ECW....the heel-glue that made everything work. His feuds with the Sandman, Tommy bloody Dreamer over 2 years, beating up poor Stevie Richards (but he's ok!) ,etc. Thats why when Terry Funk pinned him for the ECW belt, it worked. But WCW first wasted Raven. He was a midcard heel success, but like Booker T, Benoit, Eddie G, Jericho, the glass ceiling kept them from the top card. Hell, it was Raven why I became a then-mark for DDP. But whatever. But at least WCW allowed him to be a high mid-carder with interesting feuds. He was a fricken jobber in WWE. About the only good thing to come out of his WWE run was his match with Rhyno at Backlash. He never even got to do any cool promos! True, but Raven was big with WCW fans at house shows and tapings (I know, I saw it myself)....they still blew someone to heel-carry the company after the NWO angle was piledriven into the ground. As to an earlier comment that someone posted, WWE weren't going to let Christian Cage be world champ. If they really did, they wouldn't make him a bloody punchline, the Ass Creme guy to Golddusts' jokes.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 12:15:46 GMT -5
Raven was the Ric Flair of ECW....the heel-glue that made everything work. His feuds with the Sandman, Tommy bloody Dreamer over 2 years, beating up poor Stevie Richards (but he's ok!) ,etc.
Thats why when Terry Funk pinned him for the ECW belt, it worked.
But WCW first wasted Raven. He was a midcard heel success, but like Booker T, Benoit, Eddie G, Jericho, the glass ceiling kept them from the top card.
Hell, it was Raven why I became a then-mark for DDP. But whatever.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 11:25:11 GMT -5
By my understanding they reached out to Bryan Danielson, and he has some strong supporters in the E, but he turned them down cause he doesn't want to to it yet. Same with A.J. Styles, he turned them down. I don't know what it is with Daniels, I know he's appeared on WWE television a few times. But I agree with Christian. Another wrestler they've missed the boat on is Sting, just for one match (at wrestlemania?) is all they need. I think he's the only high profile wrestler to never work for Vince McMahon. Well, Danielson is going the Harry Smith approach, which might be the smart thing to do. Unless I'm wrong, Styles rejected WWE because of his morale objections to its past programming (or maybe he realized he would be wasted, maybe both.) Then again, I give props to Sting. He's never said it, but I think he just wants to stay as the one WCW hero who didn't have to go to work for Vince after WCW died....which is nice. Would love a Undertaker/Sting PPV fight, but still..... Another guy I would add is William Regal. He was hot as the Intercontinental champion, but WWE didn't think he was more than that. A pity, since he would be the brawler non-North American of the title picture. And hey, if WWE was actually serious about that now-dead "International" brand, Regal as WWE Champion would have maybe helped it....or at least sell more tickets in UK.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 11:12:33 GMT -5
CHRISTIAN CAGE - He has proven himself top-title material over at TNA, but WWE never thought of him higher than that of the punchline of a joke. Ass Cream aside, it seemed like WWE gave him a "push," but with such an angle that was doomed to fail.
With WWE's problems, they should have at least tried to resign Cage when his TNA contract went up. Instead, Cage resigned. I guess WWE rather have another Edge/Batista and Cena retaining main event!
Their loss, and TNA's gain...and imagine this great Triple Threat Title Match we could get in the near future at a TNA PPV:
AJ Styles vs Christian Cage vs Rob Van Damm. Mark hard folks.
"The Fallen Angel" CHRISTOPHER DANIELS - Anyone give me a good reason why WWE dropped the ball on him? The man in ROH and TNA, he would have been a superstar in the making in the WWE midcards.
"The Sensational" AJ STYLES - Him too please?
BRYAN DANIELSON - The New non-British Regal?
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 9:50:58 GMT -5
Absolutely, things need to change, i just dont think a Union is the way forward. Some simple contractual changes as i outlined is, i believe, all that's needed. However, in between stock holder meetings, network meetings and meetings with any kind of union - I could see Vince jacking it in and retiring himself alot earlier than i bet he ever planned to! I don't. If anything, I see him having the Hitler Complex. That is, if he is going down for the count in defeat....the WWE goes with him.
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Post by rra on Jul 2, 2007 7:49:39 GMT -5
Not to go on a political rant, but I normally loathe government intervention in private business. I've always been of the belief that the government, while necessary, needs to govern as little as possible. That which governs least, governs best. That being said, I was happy when government intervened in MLB because it was painfully obvious baseball wasn't doing enough to police steroids within it's ranks. And it was only after the government held the hearings and threatened to possible take away it's governmental priviledges that the game changed it's ways. The same is true for wrestling. It has become incredibly obvious that wrestling management (aka the McMahon family) is not going to alter the way they do business with guys being on the road 250+ days/year and having to take a laundry list of drugs in order to keep working because it's pay per appearance. In fact, I don't even detect a willingness to discuss possible change from Vince's side. He seems very content with how things are going right now, which makes sense because business, while not booming, is good. Very good. Don't make a mistake and think WWE is struggling or losing money. You see what Capitol Hill's involvement did with MLB. The steroid policy went from a first offense to be "counseling" with no suspension to a 50 game suspension. A third offense is now a lifetime ban. Even if the government doesn't actually intervene and mandate WWE do something about it, it's still making the public more aware of the situation. And if anything it could do for wrestlers what it did for MLB players, scare management into making better policy. For someone (me) who hates government intervention in any private business, I find it to be a necessary evil here. Well, I argued earlier that such a public hearing would put pressure on VKM and other promoters, and plus... Imagine Congressmen asking Chris Masters and Rany Orton about the ole syringe. That enough will make VKM do some changes (hopefully for the better) without Congress having to pass any bill or the President doing anything (which Bush wouldn't anyway, considering he and VKM are fellow Yankees.)
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Post by rra on Jul 1, 2007 19:34:02 GMT -5
Oy. Hopefully, this comes to nothing when the next big "distraction news" comes out. Anybody else rooting for Paris to do something to get this media focus off of wrestling? Nah....how about Lohan? Lets see her be a brat on ANOTHER movie set.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 20:32:24 GMT -5
As long as you didn't have to join the union to get into the wrestling business there wouldn't be a problem. Like the teachers union in Florida and the teachers union in New York are two completely different kind of unions. In Florida since you don't have to join the union, they don't have overwhelming control over how the school system is run and such. In New York, since you have to join the union to be a teacher, the union has a ridiculous amount of control (such as its almost impossible to fire a teacher no matter how bad they are). I think a union in wrestling can work, it just cant be a mandatory thing to join it. Considering that the Feds have pretty much killed "Closed Shop," I think WWE will have Open Shop union. Its just, the guys in the locker room that aren't superstars or legends or getting millions per year or lunch boxes printed with their faces on them...they need a real voice in the company.
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 20:20:41 GMT -5
Yeah, except unions dont really work like that. Once a union realises it has power, original intentions are out. Then what do YOU suggest?
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Post by rra on Jun 30, 2007 15:36:29 GMT -5
[quote author=rra board=WWE thread=1183224343 Thats what I want. I want VKM and other promoters to have the fear of God put into them if they don't self-police themselves seriously. Good sentiment, but it'll never happen. Vince will never fear somebody that no-showed one of his PPV's. ;D[/quote] Thats true but *cue theme music* ITS GOD! Oh My Gawwd! He's here! "Vincent....Kennedy....McMahon...your time...is up." *crowd pop*
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