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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 9, 2022 11:15:43 GMT -5
Honestly, based on how things went down, I don't agree that the EVP wrestlers involved should have waited. More right than wrong.
Guy just aired out dirty laundry on how he feels towards the company. We don't know the exact 100 percent details on his beef with Cabana, but he aired that out anyway despite being unrelated to the show, aside from an interviewer apparently knowing Cabana and singling him out to air grievances.
From an outsider's point of view, guy was spiraling out of control. If the owner of the company can't keep the guy in control, then someone with a position in the company should. Now, perhaps the EVPs should have delegated to go talk to him, but that's an issue of logistics. I feel the blame lies on Punk for exploding and setting off this chain of events.
...and since I hate being serious, Punk should have fed Ace beforehand so he wouldn't have to go chompy chompy. Larry is a small dog, Punk should account for the size difference.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 9, 2022 11:01:58 GMT -5
Like, yeah. It felt like a feel good moment. And him coming in to Miseria Cantare felt great. After that, I thought he was part of the roster.
It's not part of the thread title's question but my participation in threads pretty much spell out how I feel. In hindsight, it does make me feel that compared to the established big names that came in beforehand that he lacked something, some sort of effort perhaps, that shows progress.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 9, 2022 2:26:47 GMT -5
P.S. Forgot to mention it during the food talk yesterday... but Jolibee's peach mango pie is superior to McDo's apple pie.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 9, 2022 2:24:04 GMT -5
In general, I think the time spent not wrestling has hurt Punk's mindset. Dude expected to go back into the ring as if those years spent not wrestling didn't matter. People moved on, new people are in the scene.
In the end, it's a shame. Guy let grievances he couldn't let go.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 9, 2022 1:45:56 GMT -5
When the insanity hit, and the thread kept chugging along, I am left wondering.
Where did Ace bite Kenny? In the muffins?
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:54:56 GMT -5
I'm heading off to bed. I'll be frank here: I'm not comfortable joking around with a real life death on this thread. I'm moving posts regarding that, and I say this as kindly as possible: I better not see more of it later.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:46:58 GMT -5
No lie. Posted the cover of Sabaton's The Last Stand. That bit of In. The. Name. Of. God! hits hard.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:29:16 GMT -5
Holy shit has anyone seen the dumb shit Brad Shephard has been posting? Not gonna link it because I'm 99.9999999% sure it's fake as hell but wow..... Did Ace Steel ate a whole human?
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:28:23 GMT -5
I kinda do wonder if it's a clash of what is expected on a locker room. Punk seems set on one generation, Bucks on the generation after. Punk represents the Pepsi Generation, the Bucks represent Generation Me. I realize it's not funny, but Khan is the... coke generation. Pepsi doesn't mix.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:21:46 GMT -5
I hope it comes out that the true story is that the Elite went and got a higher up and then went to Punk to address his comments (which were…the exact same damn thing he was mad about someone doing to him…only made worse because, as always, he did it behind their back unlike Hangman) in a professional manner and Punk and Steel just started swinging, throwing chairs and biting people. Because it’s the funniest version. If they went in with a lawyer and other people, that first half reads to me as very much what happened. Especially if Kenny kept a relatively cool head and wanted to get the dog out. The Bucks were mad, but not mad enough to pick a fight if they brought a lawyer in there with them. Just like Punk had in mind cutting the promo in the first place, I think he also had in mind that if they showed up, he was going to fight them. I kinda do wonder if it's a clash of what is expected on a locker room. Punk seems set on one generation, Bucks on the generation after.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:13:32 GMT -5
P.S. Went to a convenience store today. Found a pack of this lemon-lime candy with salt in the center. This is amazing.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:11:26 GMT -5
Honestly, I wouldn't give the Bucks that much grief over being EVPs. AEW gets started, an unproven product but there's money and you have title (not the belt kind) and probably benefits tacked in. Hard to say no. One would feel that things are going strong without realizing some bumps in the road... which includes attempted cannibalism.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:07:00 GMT -5
Rosendouche showing his ass again What would Vince do, Rosey? Bang a staffer? Shut up, douche. I bet Vince doesn't even know who you are. Cannibalism is good shit, pal - or somesuch.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:05:41 GMT -5
One of the rules Tony should've laid down before the inaugural show was "if you want to use shooty comments, clear it with the other party ahead of time". He, like many fans, must've felt that it'd be stupid/cliche for a talent to get upset when it's clearly the new kayfabe and ,if they did, it'd be something they would handle maturely themselves. But pro wrestlers are still pro wrestlers, and even in 2022 they were at risk of going down a path like this. Avoiding this possibility as a whole is why I'm one of the types who would rather not have anything shooty on-screen at all, even if cleared. If having a strong structure would've prevented Punk from joining initially then that would've said more about him than the company. He clearly felt there was lack of power that he could use to big-time others. I've deservedly ragged on Tony before for different issues, but this is one I really hope he learns from because it would suck for the fans and the talent to not have another big promotion in the industry. Shoot or not, once Sammy and Eddie happened it would have probably been best to remind everyone to discuss what will happen when a mouth opens.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 12:02:48 GMT -5
Maybe the time he punched a non-wrestler? When he got accosted in the parking lot by a bunch of assholes? That one. I'm not gonna say whether he's right or wrong it that situation, and will not gonna bother arguing about the points on that. I recall him getting physical with Goldberg and Brock, but I'm drawing a blank on the third one is so I guessed.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 11:58:30 GMT -5
Just realized it's especially funny that Jericho seems to be the one with his shit together in all of this when I can think of at least three backstage fights the dude's had. But they were at least "reasonable" fights to get into. Goldberg was being an ass and he thought Lesnar was shooting on Orton. I don't remember the third Maybe the time he punched a non-wrestler?
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 11:55:32 GMT -5
And somehow someone getting bit is undisputed. At this point, Ace Steel will be forever known as the cannibal. Like, what else could he do to make people forget?
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 11:53:08 GMT -5
Was it Road Dog who recently complained young wrestlers wouldn’t listen. To his advice? I think so. Regarding Seth Rollins.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 11:41:50 GMT -5
While I do think Punk has helped on the merch and ad side, he has hardly elevated anyone. -His feud with MJF was probably MFJ's worst storyline during his time in AEW -His match against Darby was good, but not the best thing Darby has been in -and Hangman just ended up coming out worse, as Punk went out of his way to bury him In a video game terms, he'd be this high level piece that draws in some rewards, but debuffs the rest. A good player can get something out of it. Alas, from the media mess alone Tony Khan doesn't have enough yet to manage that sort of situation.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 8, 2022 11:35:08 GMT -5
Amusingly, I feel that a lot of good dishes here look pretty iffy. Mentioned it more than once elsewhere in the forum, like take papaitan for example. Rough translation of the name is essentially "bitter". Essentially a soup/stew of beef/pork/goat organs, some meat, and bile. Can't really do much to make it presentable, but it tastes amazing. Bitter is just one component, there's spiciness, sourness, saltiness. Like, here's the best I could do to make it presentable. Looks great to me! Was brought up on "lobby", a British (North Staffordshire) hearty stew that looks pretty similar, to be honest. (I don't think it had bile in it, though and we ate it with bread rather than rice) My not original joke is, offal isn't awful. A good stew/soup needs different textures. And in general, to me it's always fascinating when it comes to food and culture. Like, I do love some pasta and having sandwiches for a meal, but in less than 2 days I crave for rice in my meal. Despite the fact that I find it weird that my parents will eat noodle dishes with rice.
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