Batman Mafia-Hell on Earth-Night Phase 8

Voting:
pegasuswarrior (3): Orange, Jazzman, Jonothan Michaels
Knailsic (4): BoilerRoomBrawler, Produceman, pegasuswarrior, Yami Redgrave
The Shareholder They Call Asher (1): stinger4christ

Not Voting:
Zack Morris is Insane
The Man They Call Asher
SNS 3.0!!!
Spiked Mohican (Hayden)
Wolf Hurricane
Knailsic
ritt

8 is needed for a lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, 10:00 p.m. CENTRAL TIME.

Top 2 town members in my eyes both have votes on peg.

Would be very easy for Mafia or cult to slip in on that vote.

I am torn on peg at the moment. I want to believe him, but sns and jazz are making compelling arguments.

Id like to hear from peg before I decide what to do

Pegasus brings up a decent point about one of Spartan's investigations possibly being false. HOWEVER, why bring that up now after Jazzman presented his case against you, especially when you had him and Spartan's other targets listed as Town just before? Why the sudden jump?

I've had mixed feelings about you since Day 3, but this is not helping your case. I see your case as you trying to smokescreen Jazzman's allegations against you with one of your own in desperation. You're all over the place, and you don't stick to anything once it's no longer convenient.

I'm still going to keep my vote towards Knailsic for now, as he's a likely option, but man, Pegasus is making me think otherwise. I'm going to give him a chance to defend himself, because I still think there's a very small chance this all could be a huge misunderstanding. Although in all honesty, I'm not really going to hold my breath.

Was waiting on a response to that ^



And that. You did respond to this last one, but it felt like sweeping it all under the rug.

And man, you're a great player. I like playing with you. And you're always a huge asset in these games.

HOWEVER, if you are mafia or cult, that scares me. Because you CAN lead the rest of the town where you want to. And it makes me wonder, if you have that ability (much like SNS) why are you both still alive? Why wouldn't either of you have been night killed yet?

That is where my paranoia comes into play, and Jazzman is poking just the right parts to help me believe maybe you aren't town.

If you are on the side of cult or mafia (and the entire cult thing brings this extra fold in that those I trusted Day 1 or 2, might no longer be able to be trusted), then that spells bad news for us.

Also, you and SNS being on either side of the spectrum, so to speak, really makes me think that you MIGHT be connected somehow. It doesn't make sense, and something isn't adding up to me.

I read that a player could be lynch-proof. If this is so, I'm having second thoughts on pursuing Knailsic. Is there a specific power role that is lynch-proof?

I have to try to find a reliable machine to post from later tonight, but in the meantime...

A piece of logic for you...

I'm on the record saying "go for Knailsic" or "go for Asher." Correct? Look at the numbers breakdown. If either of those ARE Town, it's an obvious next day lynch for me, who is Town. That's a two-for-one Mafia framing special. If Knailsic is Town, then the votes from Mafia should be flying in. They are not, however. Why? Logic. I'm Town and they will be exposed moreso than now if we lynch either of those. I will have been proven Town and one more non-Town will be removed from the game.

I'll do a quick version now since I have to head out for a while ...

Orange: Jack-of-all-Trades (or some such thing)

There is an argument to be made that the playing of the role has done more to hurt Town (though completely unintentionally) than help on some occasions. Orange, I'm sure, has had his fair share of frustration.

Let's explain:

One attempt was to night kill on behalf of Town. I believe that night kill was Brad, totally Town and it yielded no immediate answers. (This, by the way, is a side diatribe that follows. At first, I thought Jazzman did it and was Vigilante. That same day before the kill, Jazzman had planted the seed of judgment against Brad in a head-to-head that escalated quickly. Might I add that I called Jazzman out on the silliness of launching a vote in Brad's direction. Jazzman showed reasoning and backed off and we proceeded to lynch a Townie. I first thought he was just making a huge blunder and following up on his rage with the night kill. I realized he wasn't Vigilante when much more obvious targets weren't followed up on. The Brad kill makes more sense in the context of it being a new player that did it. Re-enter Orange.) Ok, so orange from that same day had been put through the ringer by suspicions (I was right at the forefront of that). In an attempt to make good, it turned out bad.

Another attempt was last night. If he hadn't squandered his night kill ability , he would've done so last night on me. Instead he squandered the roleblocker part of his Jack-of-All-Trades. Two night kills still commenced and therefore, I can't be Godfather or Goon. In fact, the irony of me being roleblocked is ginormous. I have a "one off" ability that has now gone poof. I was, in fact, attempting to prevent a kill last night by targeting Asher with my ability. (Turns out, he *may* be Cult Governor convertee, so maybe not the best choice after all, but anyway.) So there were two "wasted" attempts on Orange's part.

Then, there is the investigator part of the Jack-of-all-Trades. He launched that a night when he had not long before roused suspicions of SnS along with the other scum-seekers (some of whom had to be wolves in sheep's clothing). So investigating and making the grandstand move to expose a member of scum...yielded nothing of the sort.

So, as you see, Orange--in my opinion--has had a frustrating game behind the scenes. His intentions have been great, but it has been a series of disappointments for him as well. (Im sure he is liking the game. I just mean the results haven't been as enlightening as he wanted.) He has had several leads (propogated in part by scum activity) and he's bound to be realizing soon that scum misleadings are indeed at work.

As always. Jono's personal grudges: something you can always hang your hat on.

What is this logic you speak of? No room for that in a place like this.