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Post by jobber2thestars on Aug 3, 2007 13:16:36 GMT -5
TNA would be crazy not to use Kurt Angle as one of their top guys, same thing with Christian Cage. Both were big names in the WWE and have a lot to offer any company they work for. But, some guys, like VKM, constantly play-off of the fact that they wrestled for the WWE. The reason that we have this problem is that TNA signs almost every guy that leaved the WWE. Some guys, like Angle, Cage and Team 3D, you can't blame TNA for signing. But others, like Andrew Martin, are brought in simply because they are a name. TNA should focus on pushing their own under-card than useing guys that the WWE has released.
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Post by mrjerkybigbucks on Aug 3, 2007 13:20:48 GMT -5
Ok, I agree with the list with one exception. Scott Steiner has been freaking awesome since coming to TNA. He even does what famous veterans should do, jobbing clean to elevate others like he did with Joe. I wish they were using Sting this way, but he hasn't lost clean to anyone like AJ or Christopher Daniels. Time for TNA to get on that before he retires I still haven't seen this guy wrestle, but I don't see how his entering the company diminishes guys like Triple X, The Motor City Machineguns, AJ, Joe and all the rest. Yeah Steiner is a WCW guy if anything. I like to think stiner is just a great guy
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 3, 2007 13:21:52 GMT -5
TNA would be crazy not to use Kurt Angle as one of their top guys, same thing with Christian Cage. Both were big names in the WWE and have a lot to offer any company they work for. But, some guys, like VKM, constantly play-off of the fact that they wrestled for the WWE. The reason that we have this problem is that TNA signs almost every guy that leaved the WWE. Some guys, like Angle, Cage and Team 3D, you can't blame TNA for signing. But others, like Andrew Martin, are brought in simply because they are a name. TNA should focus on pushing their own under-card than useing guys that the WWE has released. In the case of Andrew Martin, who else does TNA have on the roster now that can be the Anti-Tomko, the guy who will be a believable canceller of Tomko's interference? Petey Williams? Nope. He may look like Triple H, but he doesn't have any threatening presence down. Alex Shelley? He's gonna scare Tomko with his Clap of Doom! TNA has very few big guys to use for situations like this. That's all Test/Punisher is right now, a big guy.
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Post by Corporate H on Aug 3, 2007 13:22:21 GMT -5
I think once you win their World Championship you're no longer a "WWE guy". Christian and Kurt Angle, for example, are "TNA guys" to me now.
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Post by PRIME on Aug 3, 2007 13:38:18 GMT -5
I don't consider guys like Cage and Tomko WWE rejects cause they chose to leave.
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Post by thestinger on Aug 3, 2007 13:40:49 GMT -5
That also applies to Angle. WWE wanted to sign him to a multi year contract and he instead asked for his release.
Of course to get it, he lied to their faces promising a return which is why he got the heroes sendoff and not quietly wished the best in 'future endevours.'
The Gold medalist played those guys.
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Post by Nite-Owl Marks For Bloc Party on Aug 3, 2007 13:44:27 GMT -5
Anyone that ever set foot in a WWE ring, even for a dark match/tryout. Meaning... Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Low Ki/Senshi, Joey Ryan.. But in all seriousness, New Age Outlaws will never stop being WWE guys. They are about the only ones that scream that to me. When did Joey Ryan have a match in WWE?
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Post by Johnny on Aug 3, 2007 13:45:11 GMT -5
Anyone that ever set foot in a WWE ring, even for a dark match/tryout. Meaning... Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Low Ki/Senshi, Joey Ryan.. But in all seriousness, New Age Outlaws will never stop being WWE guys. They are about the only ones that scream that to me. When did Joey Ryan have a match in WWE? Last week I think.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 3, 2007 13:45:35 GMT -5
Anyone that ever set foot in a WWE ring, even for a dark match/tryout. Meaning... Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Low Ki/Senshi, Joey Ryan.. But in all seriousness, New Age Outlaws will never stop being WWE guys. They are about the only ones that scream that to me. When did Joey Ryan have a match in WWE? Smackdown last week, jobbed to Mark Henry, and this week on ECW, where he jobbed to John Morrison.
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Post by Corporate H on Aug 3, 2007 13:46:14 GMT -5
Anyone that ever set foot in a WWE ring, even for a dark match/tryout. Meaning... Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Low Ki/Senshi, Joey Ryan.. But in all seriousness, New Age Outlaws will never stop being WWE guys. They are about the only ones that scream that to me. When did Joey Ryan have a match in WWE? Both this week AND last week.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 3, 2007 13:49:05 GMT -5
You just know it I guess. They establish themselves in TNA or another wrestling promotion. Another thing that helps is not mentioning WWE all the time. For awhile, BG James was a TNA guy, but once he started with the Voodoo Kin Mafia, he was considered a WWE guy because he shoved it down everyone's throats that he was. Same with Team 3D.
Christian Cage however rarely mentioned WWE and his past, and focused on the future, so he eventually became a TNA guy.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Aug 3, 2007 14:12:28 GMT -5
Christian and Tomko, to me, dont count. They both requested releases from WWE. Rhino, Test, Billy Gunn, they are WWE rejects
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Post by Rube on Aug 3, 2007 14:28:28 GMT -5
TNA would be crazy not to use Kurt Angle as one of their top guys, same thing with Christian Cage. Both were big names in the WWE and have a lot to offer any company they work for. But, some guys, like VKM, constantly play-off of the fact that they wrestled for the WWE. The reason that we have this problem is that TNA signs almost every guy that leaved the WWE. Some guys, like Angle, Cage and Team 3D, you can't blame TNA for signing. But others, like Andrew Martin, are brought in simply because they are a name. TNA should focus on pushing their own under-card than useing guys that the WWE has released. In the case of Andrew Martin, who else does TNA have on the roster now that can be the Anti-Tomko, the guy who will be a believable canceller of Tomko's interference? Petey Williams? Nope. He may look like Triple H, but he doesn't have any threatening presence down. Alex Shelley? He's gonna scare Tomko with his Clap of Doom! TNA has very few big guys to use for situations like this. That's all Test/Punisher is right now, a big guy. Matt Morgan.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 3, 2007 16:37:51 GMT -5
Sting. He counts as a wwe reject because he drove by a venue where a wwe event was once held.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 3, 2007 16:50:58 GMT -5
In the case of Andrew Martin, who else does TNA have on the roster now that can be the Anti-Tomko, the guy who will be a believable canceller of Tomko's interference? Petey Williams? Nope. He may look like Triple H, but he doesn't have any threatening presence down. Alex Shelley? He's gonna scare Tomko with his Clap of Doom! TNA has very few big guys to use for situations like this. That's all Test/Punisher is right now, a big guy. Matt Morgan. Ah Ahh. But that's not a guy currently on the roster. That's what people are talking about. The principle is still the same, because I bet people will say how they should use their own guy instead of Morgan.
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Post by samachine on Aug 3, 2007 17:13:58 GMT -5
When did Joey Ryan have a match in WWE? Both this week AND last week. He's had a tag match before as well.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 3, 2007 17:20:33 GMT -5
In the case of Andrew Martin, who else does TNA have on the roster now that can be the Anti-Tomko, the guy who will be a believable canceller of Tomko's interference? Petey Williams? Nope. He may look like Triple H, but he doesn't have any threatening presence down. Alex Shelley? He's gonna scare Tomko with his Clap of Doom! TNA has very few big guys to use for situations like this. That's all Test/Punisher is right now, a big guy. Hoyt. Size, strength and agility to do it and would help create a new star instead of relying on Test to somehow have a good match. Why they stuck him with Hemme is just beyond me.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Aug 3, 2007 17:32:14 GMT -5
Difference there being Joe Average Wrestling Fan tuning into TNA likely hasn't seen Joe or Lethal or Ki Shelley's work in ROH. But there's a damn good chance they did see Rhino and Christian and Tomko and the Duds. Jed Shaffer ~Who was the last indy person TNA hired? Lethal? i thought it was that chick with vkm now? Good call Mizz, you are wise beyond your years. *wipes tear of joy for roxxi*
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