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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 29, 2007 1:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 29, 2007 2:42:54 GMT -5
Good find, he definitely read like a kind, appreciative legend which is in direct comparison to all the stories where you hear he's the same paranoid lunatic character that he portrayed on TV.
I think it's interesting seeing or reading interviews with really well-rounded performers like Savage, Flair, and Hall, where they seem to make a point to be genuine about how much they appreciate the fans, and how putting smiles on people's faces and entertaining them meant a lot to them (which you could kind of see in the quality of most in their in-ring work).
Then in comparison, you have Hogan, who often uses opportunities like these to remind people that he's the biggest legend in this business, and how he knew he could "pop that crowd just by turning my head, brother" (which you could kind of see in the quality of most of his in-ring work).
Not to senselessly bash Hogan, but I was thinking about him while Savage was doing a 180 from the typical Hogan media interview (save for Andre tales), but maybe I'm biased because I always enjoyed Savage far more. Plus, I thought it was pretty cool recently when we heard that he thought the whole Black Machismo thing was a blast, and got in touch with Lethal to give kudos.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 29, 2007 3:00:37 GMT -5
Good find, he definitely read like a kind, appreciative legend which is in direct comparison to all the stories where you hear he's the same paranoid lunatic character that he portrayed on TV. I think it's interesting seeing or reading interviews with really well-rounded performers like Savage, Flair, and Hall, where they seem to make a point to be genuine about how much they appreciate the fans, and how putting smiles on people's faces and entertaining them meant a lot to them (which you could kind of see in the quality of most in their in-ring work). Then in comparison, you have Hogan, who often uses opportunities like these to remind people that he's the biggest legend in this business, and how he knew he could "pop that crowd just by turning my head, brother" (which you could kind of see in the quality of most of his in-ring work). Not to senselessly bash Hogan, but I was thinking about him while Savage was doing a 180 from the typical Hogan media interview (save for Andre tales), but maybe I'm biased because I always enjoyed Savage far more. Plus, I thought it was pretty cool recently when we heard that he thought the whole Black Machismo thing was a blast, and got in touch with Lethal to give kudos. Judgine by his tone of the interview, he has no trouble laughing at himself, so I have no problem seeing him liking Lethal.
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Post by El Dandy on Aug 29, 2007 11:08:03 GMT -5
During the filming of the wrestling scenes of Spider-Man, Macho Man would interact with us extras and was play fighting with the crew, messing around with the ref and threatening to kick his ass. Hell at one point he started practicing his moves, dropping elbows on a water bottle. He appears to be a genuinely nice guy who is very approachable.
BTW, this interview is from 2004.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Aug 29, 2007 11:17:38 GMT -5
I can't believe there's no 3 disc Macho Man DVD set. Seriously, i'd battle a Minotaur and walk hot coals to get one.
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Post by thesunbeast on Aug 29, 2007 13:11:29 GMT -5
they seem to make a point to be genuine about how much they appreciate the fans, and how putting smiles on people's faces and entertaining them meant a lot to them (which you could kind of see in the quality of most in their in-ring work). Then in comparison, you have Hogan, who often uses opportunities like these to remind people that he's the biggest legend in this business, and how he knew he could "pop that crowd just by turning my head, brother" (which you could kind of see in the quality of most of his in-ring work). Both Hogan and Savage care about their fans, and both Hogan and savages in ring work showed that. It's just that fans who think they "smart" enough about the business, wich they're not, who think they can see things in the ring that tell them when a wrestler is doing their job properly, but It's always convieniently based off of the style of wrestling that they might be a fan of in the first place. That's why they're called "smarks", they're half "smart" and half "mark".
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 29, 2007 15:22:26 GMT -5
they seem to make a point to be genuine about how much they appreciate the fans, and how putting smiles on people's faces and entertaining them meant a lot to them (which you could kind of see in the quality of most in their in-ring work). Then in comparison, you have Hogan, who often uses opportunities like these to remind people that he's the biggest legend in this business, and how he knew he could "pop that crowd just by turning my head, brother" (which you could kind of see in the quality of most of his in-ring work). Both Hogan and Savage care about their fans, and both Hogan and savages in ring work showed that. It's just that fans who think they "smart" enough about the business, wich they're not, who think they can see things in the ring that tell them when a wrestler is doing their job properly, but It's always convieniently based off of the style of wrestling that they might be a fan of in the first place. That's why they're called "smarks", they're half "smart" and half "mark". Well, I respectfully disagree with just about all of that. For one, it makes no sense that Hogan always busted his ass in Japanese matches comparitively speaking to his efforts here. The difference is blatant, you don't have to be a "smark" to tell the difference. He's smart enough to know that's what entertains those crowds, whereas in North America, he could always get by with less effort. You don't have to know a THING about wrestling to see that Hogan tries alot harder when it's expected out of him, because there's no other logical explanation for the fact that he works a faster style and does more moves when in Japan. You don't have to know a thing about working at a restaurant to know when you aren't getting the waiter's best service. Hogan's done a lot of charity work and stuff, so of course he cares about his fans. But you can't deny that in media interviews, he's a raging egomaniac with an overblown sense of accomplishment (and that's hard to do when you're as successful as Hogan) or else he wouldn't have such a strange reputation for personal embellishment in media interviews. Plus, I've never really had a negative view on Hogan until recently, when I saw that "Hogan Knows Best" where his family (not Hulk) treated that "Biggest Hulkamaniac" contest winner kind of like a complete loser turdball behind the dude's back, when it's literally millions of complete loser turdballs like that guy who helped pay for their nice houses, expensive toys, and bad tans. Of course Hulk wouldn't say anything like that or treat his fans like crap on camera, but his family did, and after decades of living with Hulk you'd think they'd know better. Didn't seem very "appreciative" to me. Maybe it was VH1's editing, or maybe it's because I'm a "smark" that thinks I know more than I do (and just doesn't like watching Hogan wrestle), but those spoiled kids rolling their eyes at Hogan's fan seemed pretty darn crappy to me. And I know better than to believe everything I see on "Hogan Knows Best", but I don't care if their "reality show" is pretty fake/scripted, I thought it sucked. My whole original point was that it was neat to see Savage very humble and appreciative, as opposed to not saying, "Well you know something IGN.com, I'm the biggest star in the business. I slammed the 1,000 pound Giant, and I didn't even think he was going to pass the torch that night in front of the 270,000 fans in the Pontiac Silverdome...Because wrestling's fake, but it was real that night, brother". Of course I'm paraphrasing, being sarcastic, but Hogan says stupid crap like 90% of the time he does an interview. And I guess I shouldn't have made the mistake of been such a smark when I was six years old...just because I thought Randy Savage was WAY more exciting than Hulk Hogan. But, those Internet dirtsheets trained me that way. After all, that Internet was pretty hot back in 1987...
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Post by Designated Drinker on Aug 29, 2007 16:16:09 GMT -5
I can't believe there's no 3 disc Macho Man DVD set. Seriously, i'd battle a Minotaur and walk hot coals to get one. I'd love to see one too,but if it was done it would probably be a Self Destruction of Macho Man Randy Savage DVD
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 29, 2007 16:28:35 GMT -5
I can't believe there's no 3 disc Macho Man DVD set. Seriously, i'd battle a Minotaur and walk hot coals to get one. I'd love to see one too,but if it was done it would probably be a Self Destruction of Macho Man Randy Savage DVD I don't know about that so much. Warrior pissed everyone off, but Hogan, maybe. Macho Man is more popular than him, and a lot more reliable. Anyway, WWE did mention him on a list of possible DVD packages a little while back.
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