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Post by Dolph Zalgo on Nov 15, 2007 5:24:49 GMT -5
Damn! I just went to TNAW's website and read that the title shot will take place on IMPACT...
What a waste of a great push! They should have build it up Rocky-like until the next PPV. Kaz and Angle could put up a great match with Angle winning in the end and Kaz standing there beaten, but still proud.
I'm a bit disappointed, since I think that will be about it for Kaz's main event push. I really started to accept him as a future great...
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Post by messiah on Nov 15, 2007 6:01:15 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you, but Kurt Angle vs. Kaz is not, at this point and time, worthy of a main event PPV spot. That having been said, as someone whose read the spoilers, don't crap on this before you've even seen where they're going with it.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Nov 15, 2007 7:49:48 GMT -5
This IS the kind of World Title match that TNA should be putting on Impact once a month. One of the mid-card guys on the rise.
Not matches like Sting vs. Kurt rematches for the World Title.
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Post by comahan on Nov 15, 2007 8:06:12 GMT -5
I love Kaz, but hes not going to sell an PPV's right now. Give him a good showing against Angle tonight and you have yourself another legit upper midcarder. From there, we'll see how they capitalize on him.
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Post by REDUNBECK~! on Nov 15, 2007 8:20:22 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the f*** is he the #1 contender? Idiots.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 15, 2007 11:21:38 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the smurf is he the #1 contender? Idiots. because they want to build him up to mainevent ppv level obviously. it takes time. you shouldn't win one tournament and go from bottom of the card to top. that would be silly. why should the only people who fight for the big belt have to do it in a ppv match? this is his first title shot. that doesn't mean only title shot. they are taking it easy and building him up instead of trying to force him on us with very little build up. i am just happy to see a lower midcarder i really enjoy get pushed up the card. i am not going to look a gift horse in the mouth just because he isn't pay per view headlining. besides kaz's last impact match was amazing. |
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 15, 2007 11:42:31 GMT -5
Kaz goes over Angle.
But that's in match between Kaz Matsui and Eric Angle.
I don't know what happens in Kazarian v King Kurt.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 15, 2007 11:46:07 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the smurf is he the #1 contender? Idiots. While I understand why Kaz isn't PPV-main-event worthy, I agree with this assessment. You shouldn't have a tournament who's main payoff (title match) ends on free TV. I'm sorry, but no. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 15, 2007 11:47:32 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the smurf is he the #1 contender? Idiots. While I understand why Kaz isn't PPV-main-event worthy, I agree with this assessment. You shouldn't have a tournament who's main payoff (title match) ends on free TV. I'm sorry, but no. I don't see why they can't, WWE did the same thing with the Gold Rush tournament having the finals and the title match on television. |
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Post by imnotbooked on Nov 15, 2007 11:52:44 GMT -5
Do you need a spoiler to know what happens?
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Post by hollywood on Nov 15, 2007 11:56:15 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the smurf is he the #1 contender? Idiots. While I understand why Kaz isn't PPV-main-event worthy, I agree with this assessment. You shouldn't have a tournament who's main payoff (title match) ends on free TV. I'm sorry, but no. I agree. It does come off kind of weak. Even though I understand the argument that Kaz isn't big enough to help sell PPVs yet. |
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Post by comahan on Nov 15, 2007 12:00:14 GMT -5
Well that really makes the whole ridiculous tournament worth it. If you're gonna have a title match, do it on PPV. If you're #1 contender isn't PPV main event quality...why the smurf is he the #1 contender? Idiots. While I understand why Kaz isn't PPV-main-event worthy, I agree with this assessment. You shouldn't have a tournament who's main payoff (title match) ends on free TV. I'm sorry, but no. I would agree with that if the tournament was the main storyline on TV as it happened. But as it was really the 2nd or 3rd story, I dont have a problem with it. That said, I see your point of view. But the only way that I could see this particular match working on PPV, is if Angle/Kaz was a sub main event for the title, with like, (random example) a War Games Match headlining, then it'd be fine. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 15, 2007 12:04:45 GMT -5
While I understand why Kaz isn't PPV-main-event worthy, I agree with this assessment. You shouldn't have a tournament who's main payoff (title match) ends on free TV. I'm sorry, but no. I would agree with that if the tournament was the main storyline on TV as it happened. But as it was really the 2nd or 3rd story, I dont have a problem with it. That said, I see your point of view. But the only way that I could see this particular match working on PPV, is if Angle/Kaz was a sub main event for the title, with like, (random example) a War Games Match headlining, then it'd be fine. The thing of it is though, kayfabe wise it also makes no sense. I mean, if Christian or Joe had won the tournament, could you realistically see them doing the title match on free TV the next night? Of course not, it'd be a better idea to save it for the PPV. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 15, 2007 12:06:20 GMT -5
I would agree with that if the tournament was the main storyline on TV as it happened. But as it was really the 2nd or 3rd story, I dont have a problem with it. That said, I see your point of view. But the only way that I could see this particular match working on PPV, is if Angle/Kaz was a sub main event for the title, with like, (random example) a War Games Match headlining, then it'd be fine. The thing of it is though, kayfabe wise it also makes no sense. I mean, if Christian or Joe had won the tournament, could you realistically see them doing the title match on free TV the next night? Of course not, it'd be a better idea to save it for the PPV. I could see that happening, I mean they had Sting/Angle-World Title match on TV a few weeks back, so what would make this tournament so special that the title match must be on PPV only? |
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 15, 2007 12:13:08 GMT -5
I don't remember people complaining like this when Jay Lethal did the same thing a year or 2 ago. He won the shot in a match on PPV, and chased it in the next night or so. Must be cause he was black......  Plus, who says Title matches are exclusive to PPV? LAX cashed in their shot from BFG on iMPACT a few weeks ago. Big deal. It's only useless if it doesn't really go anywhere, and I dobut no one knows unless they read the spoilers. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 15, 2007 12:14:49 GMT -5
The thing of it is though, kayfabe wise it also makes no sense. I mean, if Christian or Joe had won the tournament, could you realistically see them doing the title match on free TV the next night? Of course not, it'd be a better idea to save it for the PPV. I could see that happening, I mean they had Sting/Angle-World Title match on TV a few weeks back, so what would make this tournament so special that the title match must be on PPV only? Oh I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't be assuming because the last Fight For The Right had its winner get a title shot on a PPV, that the same would apply. So much for precedence. As to the Jay Lethal thing, we were too busy complaining about the iMPACT Zone booing him and cheering Jarrett. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 15, 2007 12:16:17 GMT -5
I could see that happening, I mean they had Sting/Angle-World Title match on TV a few weeks back, so what would make this tournament so special that the title match must be on PPV only? Oh I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't be assuming because the last Fight For The Right had its winner get a title shot on a PPV...geez. Well, as far as I know, as they've only done two of them, it's not as if the stipulation was set in stone that the winner would get a title shot at an upcoming PPV like the Royal Rumble winner would or anything. So if it's on TV, I don't see a problem with it at all as they've had World Title matches on TV before. |
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Post by comahan on Nov 15, 2007 12:16:34 GMT -5
And he won the title!
.. via DQ. But still.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 15, 2007 12:17:34 GMT -5
Oh I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't be assuming because the last Fight For The Right had its winner get a title shot on a PPV...geez. Well, as far as I know, as they've only done two of them, it's not as if the stipulation was set in stone that the winner would get a title shot at an upcoming PPV like the Royal Rumble winner would or anything. So if it's on TV, I don't see a problem with it at all as they've had World Title matches on TV before. Again, I'm citing a precedence. If you've only seen something once before you have a certain expectation. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 15, 2007 12:19:33 GMT -5
Well, as far as I know, as they've only done two of them, it's not as if the stipulation was set in stone that the winner would get a title shot at an upcoming PPV like the Royal Rumble winner would or anything. So if it's on TV, I don't see a problem with it at all as they've had World Title matches on TV before. Again, I'm citing a precedence. If you've only seen something once before you have a certain expectation. As it's happened only once, I don't see why TNA can't change it. It's not like it's prestigious as the Royal Rumble or anything. So if they have it on TV, I don't see a problem with it whatsoever. If it had happened 3 or 4 years in a row, and they decided to put it on TV, then maybe,but even then title matches aren't a rare occurence on TV. |
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